Drive transplants

Hi
Just got 2.66 quad core Mac Pro and we want to move everything over from our G5, including the G5's two 500GB hard drives, both around a year old. Currently one drive on the G5 has OS X, applications, documents and a few other bits and pieces = about 80GB in total, and the other has about 250GB of photos. Both are backed up by Time Machine. What I want to do is to install both in the Mac Pro and use them as they are now, i.e. one for OS X etc and the other for photo storage, and put Windows onto the 250GB that the Mac Pro came with. What's the best way to go about this? Should we...
A - just hoik the pair of drives out of the G5 and put them into the Mac Pro, plug everything in, cross fingers and press the button? The G5 is on 10.5.5 at the moment, would its drives boot an Intel machine alright? It would certainly be the most convenient method but I doubt it'll be that easy.
B - Clear the photo drive out by moving everything to the main disk, back it up to Time Machine, install the newly emptied drive in the Mac Pro, put OS X on it and use Migration Assistant to get everything back from the Time Machine backup?
C - Like B but start the G5 in target disk mode and just move files and folders wholesale between the two machines?
D - Other? Suggestions welcome.
And one more question with regards to the plan to put Windows on the 250GB drive that's already in the Pro: will Boot Camp care about the physical location of the Windows drive? Is it okay in bay one where Apple put it in the first place or should it be moved to another bay?
Thanks in advance.

For Norton you do need to use the uninstaller tool and good idea to dump it. MacIntouch is a good place to find reports, along with MacFixit.
The only programs on discs that would be needed are 3rd party; PowerPC versions that likely need or have been upgraded to be compatible with Intel Mac Pro and Intel, Universal applications.
With Leopard things are slightly easier than they were when Tiger was never available for retail and the Intel version OS was OEM discs only, and there were times when I wished for newer DVDs.
Making master copies of DVDs; storing images on disk; only using the copy (the master goes into a safe box or location).
SuperDuper will 'strip' a system during copy of any temp files, logs, caches that are best not copied, and provide you with either backup (the old disk) or a test drive (new copy) to work from, just in case.
I would also begin by cloning whatever the system drive is, to a newly minted and formatted drive to begin with which would insure it has the latest partition tables and not those left over from earlier OS release, even earlier from same family (leopard etc). And, so you have something to run Disk Warrior and repair your system; scan for problems (DG2, TTPro 5.x are also good candidates).
Anything that runs under Rosetta, especially any plug-in, tend to be trouble, hog more resources as far as memory and cpu cycles, and have conflicts. Activity Monitor - export a list of running processes to check off - is very helpful.

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I am currently using an HP Elite 8200 SFF, and have two hard drives set up with all software working properly. I would rather avoid having to do this all over again if I can!
I have just taken delivery of a new 8300 Elite SFF, and would like to transplant the two HDD's from the 8200, (and will do a fresh install on the 8200 on the HDD currently in the 8300).
Both are running Windows 7 Professional x64.
Is this likely to be a problem?
Nigel.
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You're very welcome, Nigel.
If you want to go thru with the attempt, here is what you need to do:
On the 8200 Elite...
Download these files (first download is what you want). Extract them to a folder where you will browse to them later.
http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProdId=3449&DwnldID=22194&keyword=Intel+Rapid...
Then go to the device manager and click on the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers section.
Click on the Intel Desktop/Workstation SATA AHCI controller. Click on the driver tab. Click on Update Driver.
Select the Browse My Computer for Driver Software.
Click on the Let Me Pick a List of Device Drivers on my computer.
Click on the Have Disk button.
Browse to where you saved the driver files you just downloaded and select the Intel(R) 7 Series/C216 Chipset Family SATA AHCI Controller from the list.
Follow the rest of the prompts and the driver should install. Now don't reboot. Shut down the PC and install the drive in the 8300, and hope it boots up.
If not, then you will have to reinstall W7.
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Hard Drive transplant woes

I bought a 2011 Macbook Pro and put my old HD (from a 2008 macbook) in and booted it - successfully. The problem is that Logic and some other software are demanding license information again. Why? Shouldn't everything just work as before?

You could install the original HD back into your MBP and move your data across from your old MB drive using Migration Assistant.
Migration Assistant will make sure your licensing information is placed in the correct directories.

Hard drive transplant

hello,
i'm interested in buying an Apple PowerMac G4 (digital audio) 533MHz with a 40 GB PATA hard drive on ebay. i'd like to pull the 20 GB ATA master hard drive from my current G4 AGP 400 MHz and add it to the digial audio version to give me two hard drives. my current machine has two 20GB ATA hard drives stacked. can i stack the 20GB ATA on top of the 40GB PATA? like to know if there will be problems before i commit to buying.
your humble novice,
paul

Hi-
Shouldn't be a problem at all.
Just remember to jumper the drives Master/Slave.
The way the IDE cable connectors are, the Master is the end connector (for the lower drive) and the middle connector is for the Slave (the upper drive).

Saving and restoring boot drive data

Hi,
Sorry, I'm sure this topic has come up a million times, but I'd greatly appreciate advice on transferring all the files from my present start up drive (Macintosh HD icon) to an external drive so that I can replace the present 125GB drive with a 250 GB one (which will become the new boot drive, home to all my important system files, startup items, prefs etc. etc. I've replaced other drives in my G4, but never the 'brain' - so I'm a little scared!
I've heard about Carbon Copy Cloner - would that do the job? How does it work? (I need to retain dual-boot OS 9/X capability) I know it's a free download, and isn't it as good as Superduper, which is shareware for $$? Or what does the latter do better?
Of course, my main concern is getting all the files to transfer back to the new drive once it's installed. I've heard there are obscure files buried deeply in the roots of the system that are also vital to operation and if not there, would mess everything up - or at least perhaps cause unexpected disasters and horrible moments...maybe I'm exaggerating.
Anyway, thanks in advance for advice on a successful and fairly painless main-drive transplant!
Keith

Hello Again! Correct in just moving the data drive into the other computer just be sure when moving these disks around that the jumpers are set correctly. Just remember that there are only two drives on an ide/ata cable. If one is jumpered "cable select" they both must be jumpered that way. If one is "master" and on the end of the cable then the other one must be jumpered "slave". The purpose in zeroing the new drive is because often times they do in fact have some bad blocks and if critical system info were to be written to those blocks it could crash the system. I recently installed a new drive and it had two bad blocks. Once you clone the drive go to the system prefs and open the startup disk pane and select the drive you want to startup from and then restart. Kappy means to start in safe mode is to startup holding the shift key down.
A couple of things to do before starting all this. One repair permissions in disk utility and second startup from another drive (if you already have a bootable system on another disk or from the install disc if you do not) and repair the main drive to be sure the directory is in good shape before you clone it. I personally use DiskWarrior for this but the disk utility will repair common problems.
In step five he means select the destination drive (the new drive) that you are cloning to and drag it to the destination field and then select the source drive (the startup bootdisk) and drag it to the source field.
I'd also unhook the external firewire if you are not cloning to it at this time. Before you physically remove the boot drive be sure the clone is working correctly and I wouldn't erase it until I was satisfied the clone was working correctly after a few days of use.
Once you are satisfied with everything you can remove the original drive and put a bigger one in its place.
The most important thing is to be sure you understand the jumper settings because if you get them wrong you may not be able to erase the drive to start with and the clone may not work correctly.
The earlier G4's often won't work with the drives set to cable select and you have to resort to the master and slave settings but if the drive on the particular ide/ata cable is using the cable select setting use the cable select setting for the other drive going on that cable.
On a last note if you need larger drives in a 128 gig max computer consider a SATA pci card. I have a couple of Sonnet 2 port SATA cards that are bootable (not all are bootable) in my 128 gig limited G4. In fact I have 2 of the Sonnet cards in my G4 running four 320 gig drives!
Once you've done this it becomes much easier. Just be sure to have time to think out what you are doing and allow time to complete the job at your pace and don't erase anything until you are sure of how everything is working. Tom

Cleaning saved my Sawtooth!

Hi everyone,
Long time no visit, my bad...
I have an original G4 450 AGP graphics "Sawtooth" which I have upgraded with a PCI SATA card and drive, new video card and a FastMac CPU upgrade. I've always been slightly disappointed with the upgrade results. Lately, it had gotten unstable.
I should note that my definition of "unstable" is anything one iota less than bullet proof...
What I hadn't noticed (because it was happening so gradually) was that the noise was getting worse. Fortunately a geek friend dropped by and said "buddy, that thing is LOUD and those fans should not be screaming like that." Also, OS 10.4.11 was the end of the line for these machines and I needed to move up to some new software, like CS3.
Fortunately, thanks to Rehabilitation Services, I got a Mac Pro. (AKA "the Beast" This monster beats up PeeSeas,steals their lunch money and gives them wedgies.)
But I wasn't willing to give up on the old bomber. Besides I needed a machine for the kids.
We live in an EXTREMELY dusty house. We are surrounded by row crop agriculture and the local farmers haven't got the memo as far as "con-till" practices. At this time of year on dry windy days, it's like Arabia. Plus I have kids, a dog and a hamster.
Of course, I have tried to clean the G4 before. But this time, it was "do or die".
I took it out onto the front porch with two vacuum cleaners. As Bart Simpson would say "How can you blow AND suck at the same time?" I put one on "exhaust" and blew into the Mac and left one on "suck" to capture the results.
Yes, I know: static. But it was a humid day and I was desperate. I knew if I didn't do something, it was doomed.
There are four fans in this unit: one for the video card, one for the CPU, one for the power supply and the BIG one for the Mac itself. I DID NOT mess with the power supply fan except that I pulled the sled that holds the Zip drive and the CD/DVD drive which gave me room to blow in one end and suck out the other, simultaneously. WHich removed GOBS of dust. 100%? No, but lots.
I discovered that the Mac fan was screwed onto a sheet metal shroud or baffle held in place by two (somewhat hard to reach) screws. I CAREFULLY removed the two screws and wiggled and jiggled the baffle unto I figured out how it came out. I then removed the four screws that hold the fan in place.
I should have taken pictures.
*It was DIS-GUSTING*. The openings in the baffle directly behind the large fan were completely obstructed (sort of like my coronary arteries...) The fan itself was a mess. The gunk on it was nasty- like greasy dust bunnies. Eww....
After much vacuuming and cleaning, reassembly was actually pretty easy. I have a solvent that I prefer which happens to be 99% alcohol. Yes, it's toxic and flammable. But it evaporates fast and out on the front porch the fumes aren't an issue. YMMV USE AT YOUR OWN RISK!
(My 11 year old son and I also did a Zip drive transplant from our old B&W G3.)
And now?
I would guess that the noise is reduced by about 80% and it is back to running like a champ.
I love the ease of the "suitcase" design, but until I turned it upside down and took it apart, I never really grasped the airflow pattern to these things and what it takes to REALLY clean one.
Total process was about an hour and a half or more of fairly hard work (including the Zip transplant operation, mind you.)
*WELL WORTH IT!*
I bet a LOT of machines could be saved this way.

Last year I cleaned out my Sawtooth and put a new fan in the PSU while I was at it. That's a long way in there and I didn't want to go back anytime soon. My Sawtooth's innards were not quite as dusty as you described yours ;0) ...
For inserting pictures, use HTML, link to a hosted image. I'd like to see your dust bunny.
Here's a image hosting site that I use, it's free.
I usually just LINK to an image though, instead of inserting it, saves space in the post.
Example, inserted picture (160x117 image):
This is my SuperCube with Powerlogix dual 1.7GHz CPU's with a ATI 9800-128MB video card in it, a hobby hotrod.

New processor and Mobo

Hi,
changed the processor and motherboard+memory of a Arch m/c recently (Athlon to AthlonXP). Only had to do modify the xorg.conf. Since then Firefox and Openoffice crash once in a while, and a couple of programs failed to compile (complies on another arch m/c).
Does a proc and mobo change warrant a initram rebuild or something similar? Dmesg is posted on pastebin, linked below, it is too long to fit here
http://pastebin.com/m52543fed
This is almost a newbie question, but I guess this sub-form is better placed to help on this.

It boots, so its not too much of an issue, but rebuilding the initrd wouldn't hurt. I did a similar thing the other day, but the change was a bit more drastic. Complete hard drive transplant, went from a Socket A Athlon, to a Pentium 3, very few issues once i got it booted with failsafe and fixed X. Nothing like what happened when i tried it with Windows XP, it worked, but damn was it unhappy about it.

Patient Survived Surgery! P505D-S8930 Recovery Disk (Vista 64) Needed for Rehab!

After 9 months of dedicated service, my Toshiba laptop suffered a "hard drive attack" last week. Fortunately, the hard drive transplant surgery was a complete success.
The patient now has a new hard drive installed, and I have ordered a recovery disk from Toshiba, but the ETA is next week.
Toshiba chose not to honor my request for an expedited mode of delivery (overnight shipping, file download, etc.) to enable the laptop's "rehab" to begin this week.
My laptop is really anxious to "get back to business". An extended vacation on a repair shop shelf is not really the rehab the technician recommended.
Can anyone offer assistance in helping me to get my laptop "back on its feet" sooner?
Thank you.

If you know someone who lives near you with a P505D from the same model family with Vista 64 you could more than likely use their Recovery Disks to restore your system. The other options would be to:
Install Linux and be up and running in the time it takes to download the ISO and about an hour to burn the disk and install it.
Take the plunge and upgrade to Windows 7 and do a clean install of it.
Acquire a Vista Install DIsk, install Vista, then use the Product Key on the bottom of the laptop to validate the install.
Create a set of Recovery Disks as outlined in your Users Guide from the original hard drive.   This only works if you do it when you first purchase the laptop and is designed specifically for this situation of a hard drive crash. Once the hard drive crashes this option is no longer available to you.
If you don't post your COMPLETE model number it's very difficult to assist you. Please try to post in complete sentences with punctuation, capitals, and correct spelling. Toshiba does NOT provide any direct support in these forums. All support is User to User in their spare time.

I want to move a hard drive from one MacBook to a newer MacBook

I want to understand the full process I need to go through. Both MacBooks are running 10.6.8. The older MacBook A has a larger hard drive (new last year). I want to keep the newer MacBook B and put the newer hard drive in it. I also want to replicate the data from the older MacBook A onto the newer one...the data is already on the hard drive, but I assume I'll have to restore it after I move the drive into the newer computer. I will use Time Machine to move the data.
Here are the specs:
MacBook A:
MacBook running 10.6.8 with 2 GHz Intel Core Duo
contains the hard drive I want to move
MacBook B:
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I want to move the hard drive and data here
1. Will this work? What would happen if I just moved the hard drive and turned on MacBook B? I'm assuming that's not a good option, but am I wrong?
2. I have the original install DVD for 10.5.4 and a newer install DVD for 10.6.3. Do I need to use the original disk and then update. or can I start with 10.6.3?
3. Is it safe to assume that if I back up MacBook A using Time Machine I will be able to restore it onto MacBook B once I move the hard drive and re-install the operating system?
4. Should I wipe the hard drive before I move it?
5. I plan to put MacBook B's hard drive into MacBook A, reinstall the op sys, and sell it. Will it be compatible? It comes from a faster machine.
I can get info on the physical aspects of moving the drives on YouTube, so I'm really more interested in how to make sure I get the operating system and data parts right.
Thanks for any and all help. Step by step instructions would be awesome!
Jeannie

1. What would happen if I just moved the hard drive and turned on MacBook B? I'm assuming that's not a good option, but am I wrong?
I can see no reason why this would not work. I would try it.
What you do next depends on the results of this test.
2. You do not need to go back to 10.5, except when you are selling A.
3. Yes. If you reinstall the OS on B, during set up you can transfer data from a TM back up.
4. Since you plan to reinstall the OS after the drive is in place, I would not erase before the transfer. That will give you a chance to test the transplant before you reinstall. You can of course wipe the drive just before you start the install.
5. No problem. Drives don't care about a machine's processor speed.

Internal hard drive- can it be used as an external hard drive???

Well, this may be ranked right up there with dumb stupid questions but I have to ask. My sons both have iMacs- one has a new 80G internal hard drive. The other has the original one (600mhz iMac). I have the 20G internal one that was removed from iMac #1- is there any way that can be set up for iMac #2 as an external drive? I don't believe there is anything wrong with it and iMac#2 user would like to have more hard drive space...... Thanks for any help with this! Judy

mrstee,
Before I upgraded my iMac, I went looking for an external 3.5" enclosure. I went to BestBuy and then CompUSA. There are more choices at CompUSA, and yet, I left CompUSA empty handed because their choices were 1) clunky looking, 2) pricey, and 3) the specifications on the enclosures left me wondering about their (intended) compatibility with OS X.
I purchased my external 3.5" enclosure from CDW/MacWarehouse. It is a Macally PHR-100AF (strictly firewire) enclosure. They also have the PHR-100A (strictly USB 2.0), and PHR-100AC (USB 2.0 and Firewire 400). Mine was $48 + shipping. Macally shows these offered at CircuitCity, CostCo, and Fry's.
Positives: Aesthetic appearance. Simple transplant of internal drive to external enclosure without jumper change. Only two screws and ten minute task. Very fast and simple solution. Works perfectly with OS9 and OS X (10.4.3). Atractive price. Positive online reviews.
http://www.giantmike.com/reviews/macallyfirewire.html
http://www.coolmacintosh.com/phr100af35firewireenclosure111304.html
Negatives: None.
You can see these at http://www.macally.com
I have no financial interest in Macally.
Hope this helps.
/ckh

Formatting NAS hard drive as Mac OS Extended HFS+

I just got a NAS enclosure for my home LAN and two SATA hard drives to fit.
Installed fine, even using the Windows-oriented browser interface installation.
The drives show up nicely in the finder, and some files copy over without difficulty. HOWEVER, some don't. I'm pretty sure that the problem is that the install utility formatted the hard drives in Windows format, because the files that they will not now accept are ones with Windows-disallowed filenames, such as those with long filenames or Windows-illegal characters.
SO:-
I suspect that my problem would be solved if I could re-format the drives in the NAS enclosure to Mac OS Extended HFS+ format. BUT, the Windows-oriented installation utility provided by the NAS manufacturer (Linksys -- don't believe them when they glibly say their NAS boxes are Mac-compatible!) doesn't offer Mac formatting.
And unfortunately, while the NAS drives show up nicely in my Mac finders (both 10.3.9 and 10.5.5), they don't appear in Disk Utility, which is where I usually go to format hard disks.
SO:
Is there a way to format a NAS disk in Mac format over my home LAN?
As a workaround, i could try temporarily installing the SATA drives internally in my G4 and format them that way, then put them back in the NAS enclosure. But it would be a bit of a kluge, and I'd have to re-transplant them every time I needed to undertake disk maintenance.
Any ideas, anyone? Thanks v. much.

Thank you for your response. I was able to successfully format the drives Extended journaled when they were out of the raid configuration. I was not able to format as Extended (not journaled) in the Raid configuration.

Where can I put in more hard drive space on my laptop around Waterloo, Ont?

Hello, I was wondering, where can I get more hard drive space on my laptop, so then I can install Boot camp and still have enough space left for my other stuff. I don't want to loose too much space, I already lost about 9.7 GB to installing Leopard.
Does anyone live in Waterloo, Ontario?

I'm currently a student at the University of Waterloo (2B term starts in September). Here are some options for you:
1) Canada Computers at King/University.
2) CampusTech at UW
3) IST help desk at UW (for UW students only, I think)
Canada Computers is right at the corner of King/Uni. It's on the northwest corner of the intersection, slightly north of University. Look for a blue sign with yellow type within a 30 second walk north of the intersection. They sell all kinds of computer hardware, although they may or may not be able to do the actual transplant for you.
CampusTech is at the Student Life Centre, on the bottom floor (basement). Ask anyone at UW and they'll tell you how to find it. They're "Official Mac Certified", but I don't believe they sell hard drives. I bought my MacBook there and they did a RAM upgrade for me and so far it works well.
The CHIP (Computer Help Information Place) is on the 1st floor (basement) of the Math building at UW. You may have to be a Math student to use them, and if you're not under warranty they may charge you, but I had a problem with my keyboard shortly after buying my MacBook and went there and they fixed it for me. They have really short hours, though, so if you have a day job, this is probably not the best option.

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HP Pavilion dv6-3140se Entertainment Notebook PC
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" DVD RW Drive " is not reading / writing DVD.
The same DVD can be read on my frnds laptop.
Corresponding drivers r up to date.. I even tried uninstall and then restart and then let my laptop install the required driver automatically. I've tried everything I could find on some forums.
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This eBay seller ships worldwide. You would have to transplant your plastic drive face but that is very easy to do:
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I've finally made the move to upgrade my old white MB to a MBP (15"). About 4 months ago I upgraded the drive in the MB to a 320G Western Digital. All my software is up to date on that box. Is there any reason I can't swap out the drive in my new MBP for this one and be fine?
Thanks

Yup. Same issue, except with a 15" Unibody MBP HD to a 17" Unibody MBP... I'd upgraded to a WD Scorpio Black 320 GB 7200 RPM drive on the non-CTO 15 MBP, just having gotten all the settings perfect in CS3 and CS4, yada yada... the Apple Tech I spoke with about the exact same question responded: "A cloned volume or hard drive swap from the 15 inch MacBook Pro will be slower on the 17 than using MA... definitely use Migration Assistant. No question."
So, I did, despite a few Permissions issues... went from the nice 'n speedy 2.53 GHz, 6 GB RAM 15.4" Unibody MBP (I own 2 2.53 GHz 15s and now 2 2.93 GHz 17s also, one gloss and one matte, all 4 for my consulting biz), the non-clone, just simple Migration Assistant enabled transfer resulted in a nice productivity and speed boost with the first (glossy) 17" MBP, the 2.93 GHz uptick and 8 vs. 6 GB of RAM helped speed things up past the 15" more than the numbers might suggest, especially in p-shop, Aperture, FCP, Shake, and Nikon NX2...I'd stick with the long way home on this procedure, but I'm with ya on all the reasons to go with a CCC/Super Duper HD clone or simple transplant! :^/

Upgrading hard drive - can it be done this way?

I'm very interested in upgrading my hard drive of my macbook pro, I have time machine connected to a WD Mybook and it has given me nothing but problems... randomly disconnecting, and I've tried it with both firewire and usb. I don't want to rely on that to recreate my hard drive so:
Can I take the new laptop hard drive, plug it into an external enclosure, and then clone my current hard drive on to it?
What is the simplest procedure/software that I can use to do it? Is there something built into Leopard that will automate the process?

I just set up a 320 GB WD Scorpio for a backup with 2 bootable clones using Super Duper, with the idea I may eventually put it into my MBP. I haven't done the transplant yet, but I have verified that I can boot from any of the 3 volumes, and you need to boot at least once from the clone you are making to test it out.
My understanding is that the Mac will try to boot from whatever it booted from the previous time. If it can't find that volume, it will look for another one to boot from and boot from that.
To get the Mac to boot up from your external disk, go to System Preferences> Startup Disk and select it as your startup disk and restart. When it starts, you will see both the external and the internal on the desktop, with the one you booted from on top. It should continue to boot from that drive until you tell it otherwise.
Right now your external will have the firewire icon and the internal will have the Macintosh HD icon. Once you put the new one in, it will have the Macintosh HD icon and might even be named Macintosh HD. Or you might have to name it. If you put the old one in your enclosure, it will now have the firewire icon.
Hard drives are just hard drives. It doesn't matter that the WD was once in an enclosure and used as an external.
Does this answer your question? If not, please post back.
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