Dual Monitoring Open GL Problem

Hi there,
i am 3d Animator and am amazed by the power of the Geforce 4. The problem is that maya 4 crashes often when i enable the dual monitor open GL mode. When i disable it is runs smoothly. I need that mode for Maya to work on both monitors properly. Did someone made the same experience and knows how to solve it. Please :))
MY latest driver Version is the 3000 from the MSI website.
My Specs:
MSI geforce4 ti 4400
Athlon 1700+
MSI k7266 Pro Board

Phil,
It sounds like the drivers did not get in there properly. You need to try Add/Remove Programs to get them out. Also, you could go into the Registry (If you feel comfortable editing your Registry) and remove all references to nVidia.
That will get all of the drivers out. There is a program you can download to remove the drivers from the registry. It has been referenced in other posts in this forum.
When you have the old drivers completely out, go ahead and do an install of the new drivers and see if that solves your problem.
Ricahrd

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