DVC Pro 50 dubb with 4 channels of audio on AJHD1200AP deck

I have captured Digi Beta footage at Prores 422HQ with 4 channels of audio using a Kona card through SDI. Is it possible to create a DVC Pro 50 master with 4 channels of audio (the 4 channels in the timeline go to the channels they are assigned to) using firewire. I have never been able to capture any DVC pro 25 or 50 from this deck using firewire. I have only been able to capture HD footage. Also would this be easier if I purchased the HD SDI/SDI optional card?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks

maybe this does a better job of explaining:
I edited a film without syncing the sound first, and the video files only had 2 audio channels. After syncing they have 4, but when I import them back into premiere it only allows me to use to of the audio channels, is there anyway to get them back in to premiere with all 4 channels attached.

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