ERROR 32 runuing sqlplus in UNIX
I am runing a sqlplus script (done before) and I am getting this error?
jet:/home/rechever:PPRD$ sqlplus faismgr_midd/XXXX @finaid3_idoc.sql
SQL*Plus: Release 10.2.0.3.0 - Production on Wed Mar 25 08:08:52 2009
Copyright (c) 1982, 2006, Oracle. All Rights Reserved.
Connected to:
Oracle Database 10g Enterprise Edition Release 10.2.0.3.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP and Data Mining Scoring Engine options
32
Any help will be appreciated!
That is what I am getting, when I run the query in sqlplus UNIX
jet:/home/rechever:PPRD$ sqlplus faismgr_midd/xxxxx @finaid3_idoc.sql
SQL*Plus: Release 10.2.0.3.0 - Production on Wed Mar 25 08:24:48 2009
Copyright (c) 1982, 2006, Oracle. All Rights Reserved.
Connected to:
Oracle Database 10g Enterprise Edition Release 10.2.0.3.0 - 64bit Production
With the Partitioning, OLAP and Data Mining Scoring Engine options
32
When I look at the list file in UNIX
jet:/home/rechever:PPRD$ more finaid2.lst
32
SQL> exit
Edited by: user648177 on Mar 25, 2009 5:33 AM
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org.identityconnectors.framework.common.exceptions.ConnectorException: Exception occured while setting the password.org.identityconnectors.framework.common.exceptions.OperationTimeoutException: Command timed-out while waiting for: new[\s](unix[\s])?password:
at org.identityconnectors.genericunix.GenericUnixConnection.setUserPassword(GenericUnixConnection.java:866)
at org.identityconnectors.genericunix.operation.GenericUnixCreate.setUserPassword(GenericUnixCreate.java:193)
at org.identityconnectors.genericunix.operation.GenericUnixCreate.analyzeResult(GenericUnixCreate.java:233)
at org.identityconnectors.genericunix.operation.GenericUnixCreate.createOp(GenericUnixCreate.java:180)
at org.identityconnectors.genericunix.operation.GenericUnixCreate.create(GenericUnixCreate.java:111)
at org.identityconnectors.genericunix.GenericUnixConnector.create(GenericUnixConnector.java:200)
at org.identityconnectors.framework.impl.api.local.operations.CreateImpl.create(CreateImpl.java:80)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at org.identityconnectors.framework.impl.api.local.operations.ConnectorAPIOperationRunnerProxy.invoke(ConnectorAPIOperationRunnerProxy.java:93)
at $Proxy363.create(Unknown Source)
any one can support me how to fix thisTry increasing the commandTimeout from 100seconds to 200seconds and see if this works?
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Error while OSB Building on UNIX Machine
Hi All,
I am building OSB Projects on OSB Server on UNIX Machine using ant scripts. The script runs properly on Windows. OSB Version being used is 11.1.1.4. I am getting the following error while creating sbconfig.jar:
!SESSION 2011-09-05 11:26:40.424 -----------------------------------------------
eclipse.buildId=M20100909-0800
java.version=1.6.0_23
java.vendor=Sun Microsystems Inc.
BootLoader constants: OS=linux, ARCH=x86_64, WS=gtk, NL=en_US
Framework arguments: -application com.bea.alsb.core.ConfigExport -configProject OSB Configuration -configJar /var/build/osb_deployment/deployment/domains/osb/cz-osb-build.jar -configSubProjects Project_A,Project_B,Project_C -includeDependencies true
Command-line arguments: -data /var/build/osb_deployment/temp -application com.bea.alsb.core.ConfigExport -configProject OSB Configuration -configJar /var/build/osb_deployment/deployment/domains/osb/cz-osb-build.jar -configSubProjects Project_A,Project_B,Project_C -includeDependencies true
!ENTRY org.eclipse.osgi 4 0 2011-09-05 11:26:52.492
!MESSAGE An error occurred while automatically activating bundle com.bea.alsb.core (768).
!STACK 0
org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Exception in com.bea.alsb.core.AlsbCore.start() of bundle com.bea.alsb.core.
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl.startActivator(BundleContextImpl.java:806)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl.start(BundleContextImpl.java:755)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleHost.startWorker(BundleHost.java:370)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.start(AbstractBundle.java:284)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.util.SecureAction.start(SecureAction.java:417)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.setLazyTrigger(BundleLoader.java:265)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseLazyStarter.postFindLocalClass(EclipseLazyStarter.java:106)
at org.eclipse.osgi.baseadaptor.loader.ClasspathManager.findLocalClass(ClasspathManager.java:453)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.findLocalClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:216)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findLocalClass(BundleLoader.java:393)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClassInternal(BundleLoader.java:469)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:422)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:410)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.loadClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:107)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.loadClass(BundleLoader.java:338)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleHost.loadClass(BundleHost.java:232)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.loadClass(AbstractBundle.java:1197)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.createExecutableExtension(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:174)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ExtensionRegistry.createExecutableExtension(ExtensionRegistry.java:904)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElement.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElement.java:243)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElementHandle.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElementHandle.java:55)
at org.eclipse.equinox.internal.app.EclipseAppHandle.run(EclipseAppHandle.java:191)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.runApplication(EclipseAppLauncher.java:110)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.start(EclipseAppLauncher.java:79)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:369)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:179)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(Main.java:619)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:574)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:1407)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.main(Main.java:1383)
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: weblogic/descriptor/DescriptorManager
at com.bea.alsb.core.AlsbCore.preStart(Unknown Source)
at com.bea.alsb.core.AlsbCore.start(Unknown Source)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl$1.run(BundleContextImpl.java:783)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl.startActivator(BundleContextImpl.java:774)
... 34 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: weblogic.descriptor.DescriptorManager
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClassInternal(BundleLoader.java:506)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:422)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:410)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.loadClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:107)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
... 39 more
Root exception:
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: weblogic/descriptor/DescriptorManager
at com.bea.alsb.core.AlsbCore.preStart(Unknown Source)
at com.bea.alsb.core.AlsbCore.start(Unknown Source)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl$1.run(BundleContextImpl.java:783)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl.startActivator(BundleContextImpl.java:774)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl.start(BundleContextImpl.java:755)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleHost.startWorker(BundleHost.java:370)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.start(AbstractBundle.java:284)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.util.SecureAction.start(SecureAction.java:417)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.setLazyTrigger(BundleLoader.java:265)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseLazyStarter.postFindLocalClass(EclipseLazyStarter.java:106)
at org.eclipse.osgi.baseadaptor.loader.ClasspathManager.findLocalClass(ClasspathManager.java:453)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.findLocalClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:216)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findLocalClass(BundleLoader.java:393)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClassInternal(BundleLoader.java:469)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:422)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:410)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.loadClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:107)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.loadClass(BundleLoader.java:338)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleHost.loadClass(BundleHost.java:232)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.loadClass(AbstractBundle.java:1197)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.createExecutableExtension(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:174)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ExtensionRegistry.createExecutableExtension(ExtensionRegistry.java:904)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElement.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElement.java:243)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElementHandle.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElementHandle.java:55)
at org.eclipse.equinox.internal.app.EclipseAppHandle.run(EclipseAppHandle.java:191)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.runApplication(EclipseAppLauncher.java:110)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.start(EclipseAppLauncher.java:79)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:369)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:179)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(Main.java:619)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:574)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:1407)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.main(Main.java:1383)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: weblogic.descriptor.DescriptorManager
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClassInternal(BundleLoader.java:506)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:422)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:410)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.loadClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:107)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
... 39 more
!ENTRY org.eclipse.osgi 4 0 2011-09-05 11:26:53.551
!MESSAGE Application error
!STACK 1
org.eclipse.core.runtime.CoreException: Plug-in com.bea.alsb.core was unable to load class com.bea.alsb.core.internal.repositories.ConfigExportApplication.
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.throwException(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:194)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.createExecutableExtension(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:176)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ExtensionRegistry.createExecutableExtension(ExtensionRegistry.java:904)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElement.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElement.java:243)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.ConfigurationElementHandle.createExecutableExtension(ConfigurationElementHandle.java:55)
at org.eclipse.equinox.internal.app.EclipseAppHandle.run(EclipseAppHandle.java:191)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.runApplication(EclipseAppLauncher.java:110)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseAppLauncher.start(EclipseAppLauncher.java:79)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:369)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.adaptor.EclipseStarter.run(EclipseStarter.java:179)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:597)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.invokeFramework(Main.java:619)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.basicRun(Main.java:574)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.run(Main.java:1407)
at org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.main(Main.java:1383)
Caused by: org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseLazyStarter$TerminatingClassNotFoundException: An error occurred while automatically activating bundle com.bea.alsb.core (768).
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseLazyStarter.postFindLocalClass(EclipseLazyStarter.java:121)
at org.eclipse.osgi.baseadaptor.loader.ClasspathManager.findLocalClass(ClasspathManager.java:453)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.findLocalClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:216)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findLocalClass(BundleLoader.java:393)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClassInternal(BundleLoader.java:469)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:422)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:410)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.loadClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:107)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.loadClass(BundleLoader.java:338)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleHost.loadClass(BundleHost.java:232)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.loadClass(AbstractBundle.java:1197)
at org.eclipse.core.internal.registry.osgi.RegistryStrategyOSGI.createExecutableExtension(RegistryStrategyOSGI.java:174)
... 16 more
Caused by: org.osgi.framework.BundleException: Exception in com.bea.alsb.core.AlsbCore.start() of bundle com.bea.alsb.core.
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl.startActivator(BundleContextImpl.java:806)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl.start(BundleContextImpl.java:755)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleHost.startWorker(BundleHost.java:370)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.AbstractBundle.start(AbstractBundle.java:284)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.util.SecureAction.start(SecureAction.java:417)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.setLazyTrigger(BundleLoader.java:265)
at org.eclipse.core.runtime.internal.adaptor.EclipseLazyStarter.postFindLocalClass(EclipseLazyStarter.java:106)
... 28 more
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: weblogic/descriptor/DescriptorManager
at com.bea.alsb.core.AlsbCore.preStart(Unknown Source)
at com.bea.alsb.core.AlsbCore.start(Unknown Source)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl$1.run(BundleContextImpl.java:783)
at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
at org.eclipse.osgi.framework.internal.core.BundleContextImpl.startActivator(BundleContextImpl.java:774)
... 34 more
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: weblogic.descriptor.DescriptorManager
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClassInternal(BundleLoader.java:506)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:422)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.loader.BundleLoader.findClass(BundleLoader.java:410)
at org.eclipse.osgi.internal.baseadaptor.DefaultClassLoader.loadClass(DefaultClassLoader.java:107)
at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(ClassLoader.java:248)
... 39 more
Please help!!
Thanks in advance!!
Regards,
Karthik
Edited by: Karthik Krishnamurthy on Sep 5, 2011 2:15 AMHi Karthik
Looking at the exception stack trace, looks like the root cause is this error: It is not able to find the class "weblogic/descriptor/DescriptorManager"
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: weblogic/descriptor/DescriptorManager
Well you need to set the .JAR that has this class in the classpath before you run your command or script. NOW you have to generate something called wlfullclient.jar.
If you are using WLS 10.3.x, here is the link on how to generate a client jar file that has almost all the APIs from weblogic.jar and wls-api.jar etc etc. Most of the times, when we want to run WebServices, EJB clients etc as standalone, we need all these classes. So here is the link on how to generate something called "wlfullclient.jar" and put that in classpath or java build path etc.
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E12840_01/wls/docs103/client/jarbuilder.html (To create wlfullclient.jar)
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E12840_01/wls/docs103/client/t3.html
http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E12840_01/wls/docs103/client/basics.html#wp1069994
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oracle have any any check after installation all installation are correct according to no of directory, files and file size ?
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oracle have any any check after installation all installation are correct according to no of directory, files and file size ?Oracle has 2 checking mechanisim during installation.
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SQL*Plus: Release 10.2.0.1.0 - Production on Thu Dec 28 10:08:43 2006
Copyright (c) 1982, 2005, Oracle. All rights reserved.
Enter user-name: scott
Enter password:
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set LOCAL=<tns_name>
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i.c, line 1249
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Copyright (c) 1982, 2007, Oracle. All Rights Reserved.
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BUT BY USING APPLICATION USER CREDENTIALS ON THE SAME BOX
cyrus: sqlplus
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in sqlplus
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ORA-06512: at line 8
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2 before insert or update
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4 for each row
5 begin
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7 err ;
8 end ;
9 /
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I have a macbook, airport router and HP C4480 printer. 2 Questions. First what is the cord I need to connect the printer to the computer and/or airport? Second, can I connect the printer wirelessly? If so, HOW? Thanks, Stefanie
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Mask Credit Card Details in sap?
Hi We receive the payment through credit card, Is there any way to mask the credit card details (including credit card number) in SAP?
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Is there any way to either 1) completely remove/disable the prompt that appears when selecting Shutdown from the Apple Menu or 2) reduce the time before it automatically shuts down? It's not a big deal, but when I hit shutdown, I mean shutdown, not "