Event structure + while loop

Hello, I'm trying to figure out for a half a day how to unite two while loops in attached VI
The first while loop creates solid state machine that reacts on each button press and executes one of the case structure events. (this part works fine)
The second while loop, all the time generates random number, but it stops the generation during the time when one of the case structure events are executed. (this is the ticky part)
Any suggestions?
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If you want your random number to stop while the user triggered events are executing you should be able to simplify your design quite a lot.
It can be done with one while loop using the timeout case.
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