Export to Web Problem in Safari

Question

When you use Lightroom to export a website, it creates jpegs with an sRGB profile. Problem is that Safari always mis-renders images with profiles. This is a widely known problem among all web developers, and the normal solution is to export images with NO color profile, even if you have created them in sRGB color space.
But while you can export jpegs out of Lightroom and ask for no color profile, when you export a website it ALWAYS attaches profiles to the jpegs. So all Mac Safari users will see bizarre colors.
What I do is to run a Photoshop action that resaves the jpegs with no profile. Works fine, but why should I have to do this?
This paragraph contains me blowing off steam: Why does Apple put out a browser that misrenders color, and why does Adobe put out a product that creates web galleries that have big problems on Mac Safari. (86% of art directors use Mac Safari.)

Answer 1

>To win this argument, Jonathan, create a web page with two images filled with a single RGB color. Save one with a profile, and one without.
Yeah I already refuted this argument above. It is irrelevant for photographic images, except when you want to coordinate an image with a CSS color which is extraordinarily rare. For photographic images you want the correction for gamma to happen on Macs. We are on a forum here for a tool that is 99.99% a tool for photographers.
>In Firefox, the page will render with the correct values,
The next version of Firefox will color manage tagged images by default. This is a very very important step for photographers that care about the display of their images. More and more consumers use laptops with narrow gamut displays and more and more use wide gamut (the DELLs and samsungs and the HDTVs people hook up). These come, even in windows, with reasonable display profiles. It's even more important if your audience includes Macs which are all calibrated at the wrong gamma from the factory. COlor management in Safari and Firefox corrects for this.
>I can not tell my customers that Mac Safari users will see bad results
And you should not because you would be wrong. Safari Mac users that do not calibrate see better results when you include the sRGB profile then when you don't. This is very basic and is the reason why Safari color manages to start. If you have a graphics element that needs to coordinate with CSS colors, leave the profile out. But for photographic images, attach the profile or they will look washed out on Macs. Again elementary.
>To restate: I have viewed this test page at the Apple store on scores of monitors, and Mac Safari shows the wrong colors for all profiled JPEGS. And the non-profiled JPEGS also work fine on Firefox and IE on PCs.
Not true. Use a photographic image, not an artificial color ramp! For example an image of a colorchecker if you must, but a simple photograph will work fine. The only way to get it to look correct on uncalibrated Macs using Safari is to attach the sRGB profile. Your image has colors that very few photographs actually have and the gamut of most Apple laptops is below sRGB. What you see is color clipping because of the narrow gamut. On a wide gamut display, the tagged image will be the only one looking completely correct and the untagged image will look horribly oversaturated.
>So if want to export jpegs from Lightroom, I have to go back in and remove the profiles.
So set up a simple export action (e.g. a photoshop droplet, a automator action, a LR/mogrify script, whatever) that strips them. Takes five seconds. I highly recommend against it, but it is your choice. Lightroom is very unlikely to ever strip the profiles by itself. It is very contrary to its philosophy.
Some more reading for y'all:
http://www.gballard.net/psd/go_live_page_profile/embeddedJPEGprofiles.html
http://regex.info/blog/photo-tech/color-spaces-page1