Exporting 60fps as 30fps

Hi,
I am a beginner with Adobe Premiere and was wondering if somebody could tell me what happens to the footage if you export a 60fps 720p timeline as a 29.97fps movie. Do they blend every 2 frames together? Or do they simply cut out every odd or every even frame leaving 30 remaining. Does the 30 fps footage appear as smooth as 60fps footage? Would like an explanation as to what happens if possible. Thanks.

1st, go to the PDF and search for
interlaced
For easy searching, download the product user guide PDF(s)
The individual CS5 pages also have links to the earlier user guide pages
CS5 User Guides - online and PDF (right click PDF link to save PDF to your hard drive)
http://blogs.adobe.com/premiereprotraining/2010/08/help-documents-for-creative-suite-5-pdf -and-html.html

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rehtseyat wrote:
I am editing a wedding videos with 2-3 cameras. The main videographer likes to shoot on 60fps while the other 2 shoots on 30fps.
I bring it to a 30fps timeline and set the 60fps clips to "scale to frame size"
after the edit, I export it out to 1080, 30 fps. And it takes about 9 hours to export a 40 mins video.
I have edited several 3 camera AVCHD weddings on this about significantly upgraded 1 year old PC notebook and while i really do the exporting on a desktop, but if you tell me your real export settings I will try to tell you what I see, now I do not have the complication of any 60p camera footage.
I cannot understand what you are doing with the "scale to frame size" process if both cameras are all the cameras are the same resolution???

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Wavess wrote:
my goal is to have the smothest and bes quality video as possible, they do have lot of fast movement
and that´s why I capture at 60fps
But you said that you don't care if it plays back in slow motion. You don't see why professionals like us don't understand what you're saying? Give us details about your project, send us a link to your Vimeo video. It is very difficult to advise people when their request is at best vague and confusing.
30fps is perfectly fine and perfectly smooth for about 99% of the world. Have you ever noticed how all kinds of events with fast motion somehow end up being broadcast in NTSC countries?
do you think that this workflow is not good?
I think that you might not be describing yourself very well.
Post the link to your video produced as I described, we'll tell you if 30fps works.

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FluxArc wrote:
… How can they sell and market 60fps on the iPhone 6 and not have their own applications support it. ..
The apps do … on import.
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… not avail on YT, not supported by Vimeo, not on 'disks', many tellys don't support a 1080/60p input.
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FluxArc wrote:
… but I'd have to re-edit everything …
When you incidentally set a FCPX project to a 'wrong' fps, you simply select all/copy the Projects timeline, and paste it into another one with your preferred fps.
The P in FCPX stands for 'pro' - a pro knows what s/he does, a pro gets paid for his job, a pro has to respect standards for a guaranteed flawless delivery. So 300bucks is a snap (compare to Adobes CC, Edius, Avid...); or, you're an enthusiast (as me) and have learned the design of codecs, formats, ... stuff.

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Hi, Ann
Thanks for the reply.
My cache files are stored on a secondary (7200rpm) 1 TB disc
So are the preview files, render files and the source files, but there are no render or preview files, I just put the footage on the timeline in a "new sequence from clip" (which was AVCHD 1080p 60fps .mts file) and tried to export without editing.
I tried to export to this disc and also to the C: disc but got the same message:"Error compiling movie. Disc Full".
If I made the sequence 30 fps the "match sequence settings" export worked well.
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That sounds wrong.
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What's the exact timeline settings?
What camera & settings?
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There is no such thing as a bluray DVD.   There are bluray disks and there are DVDs
Im assuming you want a bluray disk since you are specifying hd frame sizes
sneedbreedley wrote:
Using H.264 I want to export with 1440x1080p 30fps (or 29.97 fps) but that choice is unavailable. Do I use:
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1440x1080p 23.97 HQ
HDTV 1440x1080i 29.97 HQ
HDTV 1440x1080p 23.97 HQ
I do not know why they dont have a 1440x1080p preset.   But you can make one.
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sneedbreedley wrote:
And what does the HDTV prefix mean?
HDV is normally 1440x1080.   So they are just designating full hd frame size as HDTV (The HDTV presets are 1920x1080 unless specified otherwise)
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What should be done in order to author a DVD in Adobe Encore and sending it to Canada in order to play correctly in a DVD player there?
Should i edit in 720p, 50fps and export to 720p 30fps?
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thank you all, in advance

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