Filters to a nested sequence ?

well,
i am fairly new to FCP, though i have been working on it since a year but never worked intensively so i dont know many of the options,
one of them, which is very important as for my work n which is very irritating for me, is that i can not apply any effects or filters to a nested sequence. i wanna give a colour effets or transperancy to the nested sequence or something like that.
also when i import a sequence of images, i cant work with them as a single clip to which i can apply filters and effects and all. like i can do in after effects and premier where i can have those sequenced files as one clip n apply effects or use them all as just one clip. n not a nested item.
i have a sequence of tga images which are to be used for keying purpose but i cant use it as i can not apply filter to a nested sequence
any idea how to work around with it?
please help.
thank you
i am using FCP 4.5 HD
G5 Mac OS X (10.3)

Hi
You can apply effects to a nested sequence, but normally after applying the effect you double click to adjust the effect. But that takes you to the sequence inside the nest.
With Alt-double click you stay at the nested sequence.
About the image sequence.
If you have Quicktime Pro, you can convert a image sequence to a Quicktime movie.
Open QuickTime player, File > Open Image Sequence
Export to Quicktime movie.
Good luck,
Marcel

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Hey guys.
This is probably simple, but anyhow, here goes. I'm on a powermac g5 with Final Cut HD.
I've layered video material and then nested it to create a single video layer which is easier to handle. I then want to apply further filters to the nested material as a whole.
How do I do this? I select the nested block in the timeline, click on the chosen filter, but no tab appears in the viewer that will allow me to manipulate the filter settings and so on for the nest as a whole.
If I double click on the nested sequence in the timeline, I get returned to the nested sequence in a new timeline, with all the layers visible. Again it doesn't pop up in the viewer. Surely this can't mean that I have to apply the filter to each layer individually!?
I'd appreciate any help!
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