Finished project, where to keep it

so i have finished my project and now i have GB's worth of the original files on my MBP along with presumably a ton of render files (what even are they and what happens if i delete them)
so my question is, would it be ok to move my original quicktime files (which were used in the project) over to my external HD and if i ever wanted to bring back the project could i just locate them again?
if this is possible, where should i put the actual sequence file?
and do i move, delete or leave be the render files? alsom where are they on my HD
thank you

If you use the Media Manager to copy the files, you'll have the best results I think. Select all the files in your Browser (cmd+a) right click on one, and choose these parameters in Media manager which is selected from the right click menu on any clip.
Copy, Turn OFF delete unused media (to save just what was used in your sequence, select the sequence only in the Browser, and turn on that "delete unused media" option.) Include the render files. And then choose the external drive for the copies. Turn on the new project file option near the bottom of the window. What this does is summerized in the top area of the media manager.
Click OK, and FCP will ask you to name the new project file that will be created... After you've checked out the new project file that will open, delete the original media. Select them all again, but this time choose "Make offline", and delete them from the disk.
Render files are quicktime movies created when you rendered any effects or audio files. Like a title or color correction etc... they replace the original files during playback of sequences, i.e. instead of playing the original files, FCP plays these render files. They will delete all by themselves when they are not found in any sequence in your project, so you get them managed automatically by FCP.
Backup your project file on a CD or DVD... get it off the computer. From it, you could recapture if you lose all the media that came from tape. But you can't recapture things like photshop files or stills ,imported CD files (things not from timecoded tape)... so put them on the DVD too.This DVD backup should also contain the new project file.
Jerry

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