FM9 Save CMYK As PDF again: different results for instances of one character

Hi,
A customer sent me an FM9 document that uses the Symbol font. When he saves the document as PDF, without converting CMYK to RGB, one instance of a character in this font appears in the PDF as a different character in the same font. Other instances of the same character in the same document are fine. Saving as PDF changing CMYK to RGB produces correct results.
Does this sound like the usual don't-use-CMYK-and-Save-as-PDF-with-FM9 type of problem? Or should we look for something else?
Minor variations of the document cause the problem to go away:
1. Deleting some earlier instances of characters in this font cause the problematic one to appear as expected.
2. Some characters in this font occur in tables. Converting those tables to paragraphs "fixes" the problem.
3. Saving as PDF under Win 7 from FM10 and FM 11 produces expected results.
We have only seen the problem on a Win 7 system. On Vista and XP, we get correct results. Editing the document on Vista and saving it as PDF on Win 7, however, fails. A MIF wash does not fix it. Deleting and reinserting the problematic character or the table row in which it occurs does not fix it. While the original document was structured, removing structure did not fix it. Nor did changing master pages.
We started with a longer document and repeatedly deleted content until we had a much shorter document that fails. Somewhere along the line, the erroneous character changed
We can change the documents for this project to convert CMYK. I just don't know if doing so simply masks one particular instance of a general problem, or if CMYK is the real problem.
Thoughts?
--Lynne

Lynne,
The FM9 and first versions of FM10 (fixed with the 10.0.2 patch) had very buggy behaviours if the SaveAsPDF to CMYK option was used. Many fonts (notably OTF Pro and WGL-TT fonts) would drop characters or even entire blocks of text. The RGB option worked properly. The underlying cause was in part to due to using the old Unix Level1 PS header code for the postscript headers in the CMYK mode.
If the client still has to use FM9 and needs proper CMYK, then I would highly recommend that they use Jacob Schäffer's PubliPDF (now on a GPL license, i.e. a freebie). This maps the postscript RGB output colours to CMYK via user specified settings before invoking Distiller.
It can be downloaded from here: http://design.grafikhuset.dk/index.php/kontakt/downloads/grafikhuset-publi-pdf
For more details and documentation, see: http://www.grafikhuset.net/PubliPDF/

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                            "http://cds.omdoc.org/logics/first-order/model_theory/fol.omdoc?FOLMOD",
)So if I execute the query as it is, then I get 5 results. If I change the function name from the main query from importsaux to importsaux2, then I get 53 results. Those two functions are identical, but is in the module and another is in the query body. Don't know why the results are different.
Vyacheslav

How can I see different results for alternate hierarchy?

I have an outline with an accounts dimension with the following members (amongst others):
Total Expenses
Exp1 +
Exp2 +
Exp3 +
Exp31 + (child of Exp3)
Exp32 + (child of Exp3)
Exp33 + (child of Exp3)
I also have another dimension, let's call it DIM, with the following primary and alternate hierarchies (shares upper levels with primary):
Primary
A
A1 +
A2 +
A3 +
B
B1 +
B2 +
B3 +
Alternate
A + (shared member)
B + (shared member)
I want to be able to do the following:
When I select something from the primary hieararchy, I want to see the original values in Exp31, Exp32 and Exp33. When I select a member from the alternate hierarchy, I want to see these 3 expenses zeroed out. Is this possible? I can't find a way to do this since the values for shared members are taken from primary members. Is there another way to do this?
Thanks for your help.
Bela

I did think of creating an alternate hierarchy in the accounts dimension which excludes the expenses I do not want to include in the total, but I have 3 different categories of expenses I want to exclude depending on the members I'm viewing, so I'll have to create that many alternate hierarchies in accounts, each excluding a specific category of expenses.
If you have a brainwave, please let me know!
Bela

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