FMLE has oddball conflict with WebcamMax - Anyone else with this?

Question

System: Phenom II 2.8Ghz Quad Core CPU, 16GB Ram, Radeon HD 6970Gpu w/2GB ram 600GB HDD space free.
I have found this oddball issue with FMLE and WebcamMax that causes a major amount of latency. And, only with WebcamMax.
I have tried ManyCam it runs fine, VHScrCAP it works well, and running straight from any of my camera drivers works just fine. I can run Manycam with Webcam Max as a video capture option and the latency drops, but not to what it is using Manycam or the others alone.
I use DPC Latency Checker a free tool to keep track in microseconds the amount of latency you may have. To be fair to all I have uninstalled each webcam type software and did reinstalls of each one at a time. And, even restored my system to a time before the use of them, along with a registry cleaning as to insure I get as fresh an install as possible. Slow and annoying to do this in this fashion, YES. But, worth checking in order to find the where the issue is.
WebcamMax runs fine when run on my desktop alone, as soon as I select it in FMLE... The under 500 Microseconds averages about 120micro seconds to 350micro seconds... had first jumpred to over 16,000 micro seconds (over 24,000), and after much adjusting and tweaking of settings in FMLE get it to sometimes hold about about 3,000 to 4,000 micro seconds. Leaving my viewers in for a choppy ride as the stream freezes, and lags for them.
Also, the latency issue happens BEFORE I even connect, and or start the FMLE stream. So it seems to be something between the Codecs used for FMLE and WebcamMax. I have read many places that this is rather common, and that the issue must be with WebcamMax.
I have taken the time to read the entire forum for WebcamMax, and like any good vender of software, or hardware it's always the other venders fault or issue.
Rather than assign blame, can we find a solid resolution for this? I imagine that many of the people with this odd latency issue are not ALL WebcamMax users, as I think this issue if it accurs in other programs (Non I can find after trying ALL I can with FMLE so far) could crash systems, the FMLE could lock up, and other frustrating issues.
The tool I used to check Latency is: DPC Latency Checker, and this tiny tool allows you to watch in real time your systems current and under load latency so you can better diagnose and fix issues, even if they do not appear in the Device Managers listing as having an issue.
Drivers to Mobo uptodate, Video Card drivers uptodate, Sound Drivers uptodate, webcam drivers uptodate.
Win 7 64Bit is the OS.
Thanks in advance for any help with this.

Answer 1

While this is NOT an answer to the above issue, it does offer a workable alternative.
I found a small program NOT freeware sadly. The thing is it works well with FMLE in all ways that I can tell so far.
CONS: Cost - $79.00 USD - However, you can in fact without any tricks buy this software for less. If you test it and really like it with in the FIRST day, you can save 50%. If you wait until the next day it drops to 40% same for day three. Day four it is less still, until it reaches no savings.
>Only BUY it if you had planned on buying a program anyway. Otherwise just test it out, and email them and ask nicely if they may give you a discount of 50% or 40% who knows if you are nice about it they could say sure. Also, I do not work for these guys, or get any kickbacks. Notice I am not asking you to say I sent you. Or providing any links, so it is not preloaded with my info on who sent you.<
I paid with 40% off just under $50.00 USD. I was hopping to locate a Free (as in forever), or Open Source. No luck so far.
The GUI - Is not pretty. Think Windows 95 or before possibly.
Kind of klunky feel to the program.
Not the most new user friendly program overall. But, it is one you can learn.
That is so far all I can think of as cons.
PROS:
Small footprint on system. Does not come with THOUSANDS of un-needed effects, masks, images, animations. Actually it has non of that. YAY! I just need the program for the ability to make about 7 or so Picture in Pictures using my cameras, and desktop sometimes all at one time. And, to do this with as little latency as possible.
Can adjust every aspect that effects LATENCY on the fly, in real time even while in a live broadcast. Once you understand some of the basics, the program is amazingly powerful. Today I got told in my show, by someone who has TV broadcasting experience that I now produce a cleaner, smoother show than even he can.
I was streaming four live webcams: Camera 1: Ten Mega Pixels Up to 1080P HD, Camera 2: SD Analog JVC camcorder, Camera 3 SD Webcam, Camera 4: SD Webcam. Plus: Showing another picture in picture for streaming from YouTube, and another to show my Minecraft Game play. Global Screen Resolution 720P HD, each camera ran at these settings: Cam1 at 720HD, Cam2 680x420 SD and same for all other sources.
Total Bitrate: Tested as low as 192 KBPS and viewers reported great image, and smooth streaming. Ramped up to over 14,000 KBPS where the stream took way to look to start for most. Ramped back down to about 592 KBPS where the image and quality was perfect.
Latency: Since I control how each layer of this was encoded from the CODEC type when it applied, to the resolution of each layer I could dial in the amount of latency I was happy with.
Set things to the max, and latency ramped right up to about 8,000 plus microseconds. Tuned things down to middle or non ultra settings returned the latency to ranges between: 120 Microseconds, to just over 500 Microseconds as layers loaded, and unloaded and only for mere seconds did this last. None of my viewers reported any freezing, and or lag issues for the first time since I have been broadcasting in HD or HQ as it is called on the site I use.
I was told by someone that my rig would not handle all of this and this was asking a lot of it... I thought, now that is funny, because we ask even more when playing some games, and never once think twice about how overworked our machines our to play some of these games.
I made sure that my machine could handle this and more if needed, and today proved my point that it can and will provide more than enough capability to run my online TV station. My total CPU usage with over 20 programs running averaged about 54% for mere moments as things loaded into memory, and closed out. The GPU's chip never went over 55 degrees... At this level the onboard GPU fan is just noticable as actully running, otherwise you never hear it. The machine sits about 3 feet from me in the open.
OK, so this is NOT an answer to the WebcamMax issue and the FMLE causing major latency even with the most basic of settings... It did at least for me prove that it is POSSIBLE to run my show in the fashion I have in mind without all of the un-needed latency.
Oh, I am asking here, as it seems anyone whom brings up any issue with WCM, is seen as wasting the time of whom I think created that cool program...
If either party Adobe, or WCM fixes this issue, it might solve what is crashing other people also.
I wanted to just provide at least one other alternative that I know works with FMLE.
SpinergyDude