FrameMaker and InDesign

I am new to FrameMaker (7.2) and I work in localization. What I like about InDesign is the "Package" option where the File, the Assets and the Fonts are combined in a neat deliverable file to the client. Is there no such thing in FM7, or even FM8? I really do not like FM but sometimes I don't have the choice. At this moment, I have to manually create a package (File, images, fonts). Is there a way to do this in FM? Or does a plugin exist to accomplish this?
Thanks,
Luke

I gotta put this on a macro.....
Luke,
Use Bruce Foster's Archive plug-in to create a FM "package" with all source file components. I haven't found a translation contractor yet who can't work with it. http://home.comcast.net/~bruce.foster/Archive.htm
Be aware that it only includes source files -- it intentionally doesn't wrap up fonts; those need to be the installed on the target system. However, you should be able to get an accurate list of what is used from a PDF set up to embed fonts.
Cheers,
Art

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    FrankB62 wrote:
    Hi,
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  • Adobe Framemaker V Indesign

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    Macnimation wrote:
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  • FrameMaker and Printing

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    neuropod wrote:
    Peter,
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