Fuji raw plus jpeg in Lightroom 5

This is probably a stupid question with a really easy answer but I’m shooting Raw plus Jpeg on my Fuji XPro-1 and processing through LightRoom 5. Most of the time the jpeg gives me everything I need but occasionally I need the latitude of a raw file, hence the jpeg/raw. I thought that LightRoom would show me both and give me the choice, but when I go to import only the RAW files show up. Is it possible to access either the jpeg or raw when importing?
Fuji jpeg/raw with L

In the Lightroom preferences there is an option to treat JPEG images next to raw files as separate images. After you check that option (i.e. make it active) then Lightroom will import both the JPEG and the raw images and they will be next to each other.

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Raw plus JPEG confusion

I have several Lightroom folders with both raw and jpeg versions of images. The Library grid view shows each of the raw files as "RAW + JPEG" and the metadata panel shows it as a raw file with a jpeg sidecar. The jpeg files show in Grid view as jpeg's.
When I run a "Synchronize Folder" it tells me that all of the actual jpeg files are "missing" and asks if I would like to remove them. But they are not missing, either from the folder or the library. I can view and adjust them in the Develop module just fine. Both raw and jpeg files are also listed normally in the Finder
I am running LR 2.5 on OS X 10.5.8
How can I get this straightened out so that both raw and jpeg files are listed correctly (separately) and none are considered "missing"
Many Thanks

Thanks. The thing is that these files were originally imported with the 'treat separately' choice checked. Somehow, that box got unchecked and it affected all files already in my library! If I go in and change my preferences back to treat the jpegs and raw as separate files, there are no longer any missing files, but the raw files are still designated as 'raw+jpeg' with a sidecar. That would seem to be a bug.
Also, I rarely shoot or import both raw and jpeg, but occasionally want to compare development settings against in camera processing modes..
Thanks

Lightroom's poor conversion of Fuji RAW files

I am on the verge of switching to Capture One due to Lightroom's poor RAW conversion capabilities of Fuji RAW files. Before I do jump boat, I thought I'd ask whether anyone had actually heard as to whether Adobe were going to do something about this. i am not impressed by Adobe lack of performance & communication.

Mark Alan Thomas,
You see only half of the story. The Problem with JPGs is that this file format applies a "lossy" compression, and with each <save> "unnecessary" pixel information is deleted and lost irretrievably. And this happens each time the JPG is re-saved. So after a few saves the JPG is of very poor quality.
Even with LR that saves edits in the catalog and not in the pixels, you cannot avoid multiple <saves> of a JPG., for instance by exporting.
Also, how many quality settings for JPGs do you have in your camera? I have three: fine - normal - basic. And I have no way of knowing if "fine" corresponds to 100%, 80%, or 75%, or even less. I have practically no control over the quality of your JPG but maybe your camera gives you more control?
IMHO JPGs should only be used for
- e-mail;
- web-use;
- delivery of Lo-res for layout purposes.
The only scenario where I can see a pro shooting JPG is this: You cover a sports event for a sports magazine. The game is on a Sunday and starts at 3 PM and ends at 5 PM. The deadline for the magazine is at 5:30 PM. There is no time to edit Raw images. The photographer has to shoot JPGs and send them off to the magazine right after the game has ended. Maybe there are a few other scenarios that would justify shooting JPGs.
But if you value quality - forget JPPGs.
I use JPGs for the above stated three purposes. But I create them in Lr only when I need them. And I delete them regularly after a while.

RAW vs JPEG questions

2 Questions: Is there an advantage to importing raw vs jpeg into aperture?
If importing both, which to save as master? Why?
Thank you,
katy

It will depend at lot on the camera (possibly lens) and how much you like the JPEG rendering it delivers.
There are lots of thing to consider and the link Allan provided is a good background for understanding the different implications. But the landscape is changing and there are some areas that are perhaps a good subject for further discussion.
In general terms, there are three areas where raw may be the only way to salvage an image that was captured poorly:
Bad Exposure
Poor Choice of white balance
Excessive Noise Reduction
If your image suffers from any (or all) of these, then the JPEG is probably ruined and can't be recovered (although it may be made usable at lower resolutions). So if you or your camera are prone to producing images like these, raw is a safety net that can save your images.
Excessive noise reduction (which destroys detail) was the main reason I started using raw, as some premium compacts always threw away too much detail, even at their lowest noise reduction settings. Exposure and White balance were under my control, but not the noise reduction.
But in recent years, the JPEG processing of many cameras have improved enormously and it is creating a bit of a dilemma.
Sensor efficiency has led to lower noise, and camera JPEG engines (CJEs) have become more sophistocated, delivering excellent results straight out of camera.
With lower noise has come improved dynamic range, and CJEs have introduced dynamic range optimisation to allow more of the shadow and highlight data into the final image using custom tone curves for different scenes.
Colour procsessing is continually being tweaked with many cameras (Fuji and Olympus in particular have a very strong signature look that many people enjoy want to preserve).
For some users with good computer knowledge and image processing skills, there is still a motivation to use raw as they are able to use the tools to get the very best out of their images and produce superior renderings. Although even among these, I know of quite a few who admitted they were struggling to produce renderings from Fuji X100 raws that were as good as those from Fuji's CJE.
But for many people, being sat in front of the computer tweaking their images, and being expected to learn the tools and techniques to do so, is just not their idea of what photography is about. So these improved CJEs are offering them real benefits to get on with shooting, and use the computer primarily for organisation and publishing, with perhaps some of the more simple editing; crop, straighten, etc.
But in the last year or two, in some areas the CJEs havent just been catching up, they're actually moving ahead, at least over third party converters like Aperture, Lightroom, C1 etc (the manufactures own raw processing software should always be able to match and beat the CJE).
Most of these areas can be grouped under the heading "Lens based Optimisations". From automated removal of distortion, CA, vignetting and moire, to the new sophistocated sharpening algorithms that are based on the manufacturers actual lens performance data to apply exactly the right kind and amount of sharpening to each part of the image based on the lens used and the aperture setting.
Even if the converters provide all the tools to compete with this level of sophistocation, unless it can be fully automated, it still could become a case of more effort for less accurate results.
For my own workflow, I have recent found combinations of camera settings that deliver very pleasing out of camera JPEGs and so have begun shooting Raw + JPEG, importing both to Aperture with JPEG set as the master. This means many of my images are now near 'publish-ready' immediately on import, but for any images where I messed something up, or just don't like the JPEG results, I've still got the raw to fall back on.
Andy

Fuji raw file problems

Lr 4.4 dng file looks much worse than jpeg out of my Fuji 770exr camera ... why would this happen? Thanks

Screen-shots of what you’re seeing will help responses be less than wild guesses as to what you’re seeing. Converting to DNG doesn’t change exposure and doesn’t add lines to an image so something else is going on.
Regarding the overexposed and washed out shots, Nikon cameras have an ADL (Auto Dynamic Lighting) setting and Canon cameras have an ALO (Auto Lighting Optimization) setting, which cause the camera to automatically fix bad exposures before it writes the JPG. If your Fuji camera has such a setting, and you plan on shooting raw, then turn off this auto-fix setting, because it is just hiding poor technique or challenging lighting situations and will be confusing when you work with your raws in a non-Fuji raw converter like Lightroom.
Lightroom does have a Auto Toning button that you can press to get LR’s attempt at auto-fixing the exposure but it doesn’t work in many situations, especially the Auto Exposure settings. I usually click LR's Auto to get the Black and the White sliders set and then undo the Exposure setting which is usually not right, having adjusted itself based on a small specular highlight or bit of overexposed sky that isn't part of the subject and darking the whole shot unnecessarily.
About horizontal lines, without seeing what you’re talking about, it could be a number of things: high-ISO noise banding from the sensor, video-driver issues on your computer, bad-memory chips on your computer, corruption during transfer, hard-drive failure, where except the high-ISO niose, all might be a change to the raw data after it gets to your computer and have nothing to do with LR or your camera.
Are you shooting RAW+JPG and comparing the camera jpg and LR-DNG of the same shot?
Besides screen-shots, an actual DNG, or preferably the raw file before converting to DNG, along with the corresponding JPG if you're shooting RAW+JPG, would be helpful for others to look at, here, to see if the same issues are apparent on their computers or not. This would help narrow down if it is a hardware issue on your side or something LR is doing. You cannot attach a large file to a forum message, but you can upload one to www.dropbox.com or www.skydrive.com or similar large-file-hosting service, and post the public download link to it, here, in a message.
You also should be using the latest LR 4.4 with Fuji cameras that have the new X-Trans sensor. Converting to DNG with prior versions of LR (< 4.4) or a previous version of the standalone DNG converter (<7.4) will have a sub-optimal demosaicking algorithm applied which kills detail, especially color detail, neither of which seem to be what you're describing but it would be useful to understand if you are using LR 4.4 or a previous version.

Exporting Jpegs from Lightroom - DPI question

When I export Jpegs from Lightroom, I set the dpi to 300 pixels per inch. I do not specify a max width or height. When I view these files in Adobe Bridge (CS2 or CS3) the file info says 300dpi. However, when I open the files in Photoshop and select image size, It says 72dpi and has the document size set to very large. I realize that I can enter 300 dpi and uncheck the resample box, I am just confused as to why this is happening.
My concern is, that I upload my images directly to my lab after exporting from Lightroom. Will this cause problems?
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David

the image resolution is a combination of the two parameters you mention: size and dpi. a very large size at 72 dpi is equivalent to a small size (like 3x5) at very high dpi. for printing you want at least 240 dpi at the largest size that allows you to keep that resolution. for screen presentations or your web site you want jut 72 dpi. 72 dpi and 2x3 inches will require a very small file size.
I suggest you to export images at TIFF and not JPEG as that will allow you to preserve the image quality when doing editing in PS.
In my case I export TIFF for PS (when I need PS editing) and 72 dpi JPEG for my web site (that way if somebody downloads my image illegally thy get a poor resolution copy). But since LR works very well for me 90% of the images re just kept in raw mode and I print from LR.

RAW to Jpeg - file too small

Hello,
I have a 10.2 megapixel camera and I'm importing 16MB RAW/NEF files into Lightroom 3. But when I export them as Jpegs (Quality: 100, AdobeRGB1998, NO "limit file size," NO "resize to fit," Resolution: 300) the files shrink to 5MB AT BEST. That is with no cropping in Lightroom. What do I do to export larger Jpegs? I'm concerned about printing an 11x14 print with a 5MB file.
Thank you!

First you need to Crop to an 11x14 aspect ratio so that you can decide what to cut out. Your camera's file is likely 2:3 or 3:4 aspect ratio.
Next you need to let Lightroom resize on export.
Good settings for JPEG for print at a lab are:
Long Edge: 14 Inches
Resolution: 300 PPI
Quality 84
sRGB or Adobe (Depending upon your lab)
Sharpening appropriate to your image content and paper media.
Megabytes has very little to do with image size printability. It is your pixel dimensions of your file that are the largest determiner.

Camera RAW ruining JPEGS, cant disable

I have CS3.
Certain jpeg files now ONLY open with Camera Raw in PS, no matter what I do. I just want to open them regularly, but I cant get ACR to go away, and ACR is corrupting the color somehow when it opens them this way.
Under preferences, (in both PS and Bridge) I have disabled 'prefer camera raw' for jpeg, but that still doesnt help.
The problem is the color gets ruined when opening them with ACR, no matter what color space I choose from within ACR when developing them, the files get a washed out appearance, and once opened this way, cant be fixed via normal methods, ala 'converting to' or 'assigning' the right color profile.
Note that other jpegs not opened with ACR before seem fine and unaffected, they do not open via ACR in PS, they just open normally in PS, and I see the expected 'color profile mismatch' if relevant.
Also note that the files that are getting ruined by ACR look OK in Bridge and from within the ACR preview window itself, but once opening into PS, they look totally different.
Can someone please tell me how I can stop ACR from ruining them or just disabling ACR for good? Thanks. The files are essentially unopenable as they are right now, and I dont see any 'clear' develop settings options as later versions of PS seem to have.
Thanks!

Thank you!!!
From your screenshot I realized I did not have those options available, so I upgraded from camera raw 4.0 to 4.1, and sure enough, they included those options in the update.
Once I unchecked them, the notorious ACR did not open!
I still wonder why the color gets corrupted by ACR, but am not the biggest fan of ACR anyway, so will not use, long live Lightroom, LOL.
Do you know, is there a 'limit' to the level of ACR I can upgrade to from within CS3?
Anyway, Thanks again for saving me,

Import RAW and jpeg

If I try to import both RAW and JPEG from the same folder or from the same card LR only imports the RAW files. I usually shoot RAW and JPEG simutaneously so they both have the same filename but different file types. Photshop handles this OK so whats going on?

It would probably have been better to start a new thread, rather than attaching your new question on the end of a 3 year-old thread, but anyway, by JEP do you mean JPG? Where are you seeing JEP/JPG? The RAW files from your camera won't say .RAW as the extension, but .CRW or .CR2 if Canon RAW and .NEF if Nikon RAW, and perhaps some other extension for a different manufacturer.
As far as shot-specific information: shutter-speed, aperture, ISO and focal-length are shown several different places such as under the histogram, in the metadata panel in Library mode, and in the Info Overlay in Loupe view in Library and Develop modes. You can define what specific things you want to display in the limited area using View / View Options. You can use the I key to cycle between nothing, Loupe Info 1 and Loupe Info 2.
For learning photography, shutter, aperture, ISO and focal-length are mostly what you'd need, along with white-balance color-temperature which is visible in Develop mode. Some camera-manufacturer-specific programs can also show things like which focus-points were enabled, but Lightroom works with many, many cameras from various manufacturers and things like focus-points are recorded differently from each manufacturer so LR doesn't attempt to decode and show such less-standardized information.
If you really want to see ALL the information encoded in an image--the EXIF data, then download EXIFtool and drag-and-drop an image to the EXE that has (-k) in the name and you'll see a very long list of information, most of it irrelevant to general photography and, again, different for different cameras, where LR is trying to show things that are common to all cameras.
EXIFtool is available from: http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/

When will we get better handling of Fuji raw files?

Why is it that Fuji raw files (I'm using a Fuji X-T1 camera) are treated so badly in Lightroom? I have just tried Irident Developer and just exporting random photo of my son with default settings in Irident got me a vastly better result than I able to get from Lightroom.

Joergen,
I was quite concerned myself when reading some of the posts about LR processing X-trans files, even after the fix done in LR 4.4 (Adobe's Fujifilm X-Trans sensor processing tested: Digital Photography Review)
What I noticed though, is that the articles with "comparisons" are biased and usually talk about "detail" and trying to "fix" it to no avail. My experience with every single raw file available was, however, that it is possible to do a much better job with LR than what the articles present, leading me to think that the authors are either clueless or marketing agents in disguise.
Moreover, some of the files that are presented as "better" are in fact quite over-sharpened showing an obviously digital result.
My recommendation is to try and see with your own eyes. I was able to test the packages using trial periods and finally ended up sticking to LR for the overall way it handles the images.
Here go a couple of raw files for you to try:
Dropbox - DSCF2432.RAF
Dropbox - DSCF2425.RAF
100% comparisons between LR (PROVIA profile) and OOC jpg (PROVIA Film Simulation):
1.A 2.B
2.A 2.B
Any preference?
1.A and 2.A are the Raw files processed with LR. 1.B and 2.B are OOC JPG, PROVIA

Show both RAW and JPEG in browser view

I exported an original and full-sized edited JPEG from Lightroom. I then imported both files into Aperture 3 with the RAW as master. I would like to know how I can view both the RAW and JPEG in the browser view. I know I can switch which is the master.

Ideally you will want to set this at the import stage, in the import dialogue box the Raw+JPEG Pairs menu gives you the option to bring them in as separate masters.
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Pulldown menu/Photos/Duplicate Version
now with a duplicate right click the duplicate and select set JPEG/RAW as Master
you now have both.
Tony

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Is there any way I can do something similar in Lightroom? It's annoying me to have the JPEG and RAW side by side in a collection. (Looking for a setting or something automatic that happens on import.)
Thanks!

There is an autostacking option in Photo->Stacking that can do what you want. It will automatically stack images with the same capture time (such as a raw and jpeg from the same exposure). You can swicth the frontmost one of a stack in a similar fashion as in Aperture with Set Copy as Master in the Photo menu. I don't think you can do the autostacking immediately on import so you will have to invoke the autostack yourself.

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Hi there,
is it possible to view RAW+JPEG as one thumbnail in Bridge like in Lightroom? I shoot RAW and JPEG and so i see the same picture 2 times. One RAW Version and one JPEG.
I want to see them both as one thumbnail. They should be grouped together. So if i delete it the RAW and the JPEG version gets deleted.
please help!
regards,
Mari

You still don't understand what i mean and you seem to have no idea what i'm talking about. But it's okay..
Maybe you should read a little more about how LR works before you write about things you clearly don't know anything about.
i explain it to you one last time: I have RAW and JPEG Files. I'm looking only at the RAW Files when i sort out my photos and i don't want to delete the JPEGs manually. So i want Bridge to stack JPG+RAW together so they both get deleted when i delete the image. it's not that hard to understand actually
For those who understood what my problem was:
I found a script for LR that does exactly what i was looking for in Bridge: -> RAW + JPG Stack
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