GATP - Rule based availability check

Hi:
What is the meaning of having more than one condition type in the case of GATP RBA? In the context of pricing, it is understandabale because the price is additive from one condition type to the next. But in the case of GATP where we are interested in satisfying the full quantity on-time, how does it play a role? Thanks.
Satish

Hi Satish,
        Having more than one condition type in RBATP enables the system to find multiple rules. You can do the ATP check taking one rule at a time till all the requirements are confirmed/backordered.
        In pricing, there is the added functionality to do calculation on the values found from the many condition records. In RBATP such calculations are not warranted. Here we are interested in finding rules which in turn contain the location determination procedure, which further contain the plants in a specified order.
         For example in pricing 'Price' and 'Tax' can be the condition types. Values are derived from the pricing condition records and calculations can be done on those values in the pricing procedure of the document. Similary in RBATP    'Fulfillment' and 'Backorder' can be the two condtion types. Based on the two condition types the sales order can derive two rules. These two rules can have different plants in their search parth. You can say that for fulfillement always look at Plant A, then at Plant B. If the parts are not available at these two plants, sales order will go to the backorder condititon type and find another rule, this time the backorder rule and you can have plant C here.
     If this leads to another question please do not hesitate to ask.
Thanks and regards
Sanjeev

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Rule based availability check

Hi,
Please provide step by step guide instructions for rule based availability check configuration. Your help is highly appreciated.
Thanks
Chandana

Hi Chandana,
I have provided the below link which contains the full details of step by
step configuration of rule based availability check
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_scm70/helpdata/EN/fb/e6783739e6ff5de10000009b38f8cf/frameset.htm
Please confirm your query is resolved
Regards
R. Senthil Mareeswaran.

Rule based ATP check with SOA

Hello,
We wish to implement ATP check using Ent Services.
Details:
Environment : SAP ECC 6.o with Enhancement Package 3/ SCM 5.0
Ent service used: /SAPAPO/SDM_PARCRTRC : ProductAvailabilityRequirementCreateRequestConfirmation
We were able to carry out Product check using the service. However we are unable to carry out rule based ATP check using the same service.
We have carried out the entire configuration as per SAP's building block configuration guide for Global ATP & SAP Note 1127895.
For RBA <Rule based ATP check>, we are getting the results as expected when we create Sales order from SAP R/3 (Transaction VA01), however ATP simulation in APO & Ent service does not give the results as expected. When we carry out ATP simulation in APO / Ent service, results are same as Product check & not as RBA i.e. they respect only requested Product location stock & does not propose alternate Product or Location in case of shortages
Plz share the experience to fix the issue
Mangesh A. Kulkarni

Hi mangesh
Check this links , not very sure , but may help you...
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/wiki?path=/display/erplo/availability%252bchecking%252bin%252bsap
Re: ATP confirmation in CRM
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/wiki?path=/display/scm/rba
Regards
Abhishek

Rule based ATP check

Hello,
We are implementening rule based ATP check for Sales order scnerio. Our Business process is
1.Customer will cretate order for product P1 & Location L1.
If stock is available, system will confirm the order else it should search for alternate product & location in following swquence
2. Product P2, Location L1
3. Product P1, Location L2
4. Product P2, Location L2
We have maintained all the configuration as per SAP bulding block for Rule based ATP check in SAP & APO server.
Problem : If stock for requested Product location is not available, syetem does not propose the stock of alternate product & location as maintained in rule sequence. It gives error as :
"No product found" "Internal error: Item /000000"
Would appreciate if anyone can share information on fixing ths issue?
With Regards
Mangesh A. Kulkarni

hello
We have resolved the issue at our end..
It was due to activation of unwanted exit in APO..
Regards
Mangesh A. Kulkarni

Rule based ATP Check - User Exit to modify the item

Hi all,
We are working with standard rule based ATP check to change the plant in the Sales Order item.
That creates a new subitem with the new plant determination, and changes the Item Category of the original item.
My doubt is: Is there any User Exit in this process to do the system change something else in the Sales Order items?
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Thanks!!
Edited by: Rob Burbank on Oct 8, 2010 2:20 PM

Hi Roger,
Please clarify more what do want to change exactly example any Z field to be copied from main item to sub item.
You can use exit USEREXIT_MOVE_FIELD_TO_VBAP , USEREXIT_MOVE_FIELD_TO_VBAK
Thanks,
Pavan Verma

SAP APO : GATP:Ruled Based ATP check :Location

System look for best CDD plant out of 3 plants
For example, there are 4 plants (P1, P2,and P3, ). All can not meet the RDD (say 1st July) of the customer, however lets say P2 can give the best CDD (5th July). System should choose P3. (May be in another inventory situation P3 can give the earliest CDD, system should then choose P3).
CDD:Commited Delivary date
RDD:Requestion Delivary Date
Let me the configration seting in ruled based ATP check and how to go about??

Hi,
maintian the following settings in the SCM APO Master data - Rule Maintenance -/SAPAPO/RBA04 - Integrated Rule Maintenance Maintain the following things here
By going to Profile and parameter
Maintain the Rule control, maintain rule control in this maintiain top from list for Location.
Maintain the location determintion activity here maintain Check mode and Business event.
Come back to first screen and maintain the
location dermination substitution here in the first line maintin the actual plant and maintain the remining plant in the follwing lines.
maintain the rule here maintain for the location determination procedure.
lastly you need to maintain create rule determination for the plant and rule.
Hoping you maintained al the SPRO settings
Regards,
T.Muthyalappa.

Delivery & Invoice for Rules based ATP check materials

Hi All,
We have an query regarding rules based ATP , delivery & Invoicing . When we create a SO ( say we have only one line item 10 , with quantity 100 created at Plant P1 , item category TAN ) , ATP confirmation happens ,based on the stock & receipts ( say we have confirmation of 60 units at Plant P1 ) . Since we are using RBATP , the remaining 40 quantity is being confirmed at Plant P2. Now the order will have multiple line items 10 the original line item but with different item category TAPA and also two more line items for quantity of 60 & 40 for plants P1 & Plants P2 respectively with item category TAN. This is the standard functionality.
My question is , Will there be any issues with respect to delivery & Invoicing as there are multiple plants and different item categories.
Thanks & Regards
Surendra

Hi,
With respect to delivery you will have differnt delivey document because your shipping point is going to be different.
Regarding Billing you can combine the differnet delivey document if the delivery document created using the sales order contains the same payer,payment terms, billing date,material group and Incoterms.
Apart from the above you will not face anyproblem by having 2 diiferent item category for the above said scenario..
Regards,
V.Devaselvam.

GATP - Allocation with Availability Check

Friends,
Need help setting up the below scenario in GATP :
Product Allocation for Product A is 100 per day and allocated only in single bucket (rest of the buckets zero qty). Order comes in for 150 qty. If I check allocation first then only 100 will be confirmed as there are no more allocations i future/past buckets. So, the rest of the qty should be confirmed after 10 days (assuming that the RLT is 10 days).
So, to set up this scenario in check instructions, I would let allocation be first step and product availability next step and in check control I have confirmation at end of checking horizon. But I am not getting the expected result. Please help me!!!!
Thanks
Sapper

Sapper,
Many companies set up their businesses such that the original order entry results in an unconfirmed order. Allocation IN PARTICULAR is designed to exclude certain customers from receiving any confirmation at all.
So, let us look at your requirement. It seems that you have an allocation, based on some business rules (customers? region? market segment?). Allocation is designed for situations where marketplace demand exceeds supply, and you wish to limit sales order confirmation to some predefined quantities. The normal reason is to stop certain customers from buying all of your product, but instead divide your output up such that a previously defined grouping of customers can each get their fair share.
Now you say, "if the customer has an allocation and I have stock, I want to confirm against the stock. If the customer does not have allocation, then I want the order to confirm to some fixed date in the future." Please confirm if this is your requirement.
Allocation is not designed for this purpose. I have low confidence that it can be tortured into meeting this requirement. if you are unwilling to create an allocation for this customer at lead time to cover his excess requirements.
I don't really know all of your requirements, but I believe one solution that may work is to use SD Scheduling agreements. (you don't need APO for this, BTW) . You enter a scheduling agreement according to the amount you wish to build for this customer. You build product according to the customer's SA, and ship accordingly. If he attempts to overbuy, then his order is treated the same way you treat any other order that has inadequate supply, typically confirms to lead time.
Rgds,
DB49

Availability check & TOR

hi
can anyone tell me whether availability check is first or TOR. Explain in one scenario.
please urgent
regards
murali

hi,
Availability Check & TOR configuration is done hand in hand..
To confirm the quantities for a particular line item in the sales order on particular day system carried out transfer of requirements (TOR) & AVAILABILITY check, so has to confirm the quantity on particular day as system should know what are there requirement of the sale order and delivery with MRP then system carries out availability check function, to confirm the quantity on particular day. Depending upon the IMG setting system carries out availability check function based on 3 methods:
A) Availability Check with ATP logic or against planning:
In ATP logic systems ATP Qty while carrying out availability check function for
Particular line item (ATP qty=warehouse stock +planned receipts-planned issues)
Planned Receipts: EX: - purchase requisitions, purchase orders, stock in transfer, stock at inspection etc.
Planned Issues: - EX: - open sales order & open delivers
B) Availability check against product allocation:
Availability check can be carried out against product allocations in which system automatically restrict the user to confirm the quantity beyond reserved quantities per particular customer. EX: - Availability qty =100, existing orders=10, then system automatically distributes to items evenly to the sales order.
C) Rule based Availability check:
Rule based availability check can be carried out based on the business transaction.
EX: - For normal sales order system has to carry out availability check for special sales order ex: - cash sales and rush order systems need not to be carry out availability check,
In rule based availability check system in which system carried out Global availability to promise in all plants. In this check system transfers the requirements to APO system where GATP takes place and the result of the availability check transferred to R/3 system. This process takes place with the transaction code CIF(central inter face) inR/3.After carrying out availability check function system proposes(by using ATP logic) default values of ATP check result to the user in a dialog box, in which system gives the choice to the user to take the decision in contest of insufficient stock.
a) One time delivery:
If the user chooses one time delivery and the order Quantity is 100 units system confirms 50 units then systems automatically confirms as a zero. If the user saves the document with the zero confirm qty then system trace the sales order as aback order (V_RA), which can be confirmed later by RESCHEDULLING (V_V2).
b) Complete Delivery:
If order Qty=100, Availability stock = 50, system says that remaining can be given after one week. Then if the user selects this option then system push up existing confirmed qty to after one week and the total qty can be confirmed after one week only.
c) Delivery Proposal:
If order qty=100, system confirms 50, and remaining 50 can be confirmed after one week. If the user chooses this option then system confirms 50 Qty today allows the user to delivery 50 quantities today remaining 50 can be delivered after one week.
CONFIGURATION SETTINGS FOR TOR:
Define Requirement Class:
Path: SImg & Availability Check Basic functions D & Transfer of Define Requirement classes Transfer of requirements requirements
Requirement classes control MRP, Requirement consumption, strategy, relevance for planned. It specifics whether the availability check & TOR to be Called out for transactions. Ex: Sales Order
It determines whether requirements relevant for MRP or not, the allocation indicator from the sales view which controls the settlement of customers requirements with planned independent requirements. It determines the item b to be settled as an availability heck. Assignment, the settlement profiles the results analysis key. The TOR and Availability check functions are globally controlled using the requirement class for all the Sales documents. The values from the Requirements class are transferred to scheduled the of the sales documents class are transferred to scheduled the of the sales document default values and can be over written there.
Define Requirements Classes:
Requirement class defines whether the system has to carry out availability check based on the STP Qty. Ex:
Define Requirement Types:
Here we define requirement type, Ex: and Assign to Requirement class that we defined in the promote step.
Determination of Requirement types using Transaction:
Requirement type is going to be determined for sales document by following a search strategy. .
First System checks strategy group in MRP3 view if it trend requirement type then system takes from it, otherwise.
It will go to MRP group in MRP1 view, otherwise
It will check to Material type, otherwise
It will go to item Category + MRP type, otherwise
It will go to Item category only, otherwise
Finally system determines the transaction b not relevant for TOR & Availability check.
Choose Item category TAN+MRP type PD=Requirement type =0
Define Procedure for each schedule the category:
Here we define respective schedule the category of the sales documents, whether an availability check and TOR should be carried out. This setting is relevant for sales documents only. It is fine tuning of availability check for sales documents TOR & Availability check function can be activated at sales order level those are proposed in to schedule line category level. If u wants to deactivate TOR availability check function at schedule the category level and want to deactivate at requirement class level it b impossible.
Ex: If u wants to check availability w/o transferring the requirement we can use it.
Choose schedule line category CP & Activate Availability check, requirement & Product Allocation
Block Quantity confirmation in delivery Blocks:-
When we transfer requirements to MRP then confirmed quantities is also reserved for confirmed sales documents, if transaction is blocked for delivery the reserved quantities are also blocked so that the conformed quantities cannot be used by any other purpose. So has to avoid this situation we can block the transfer of requirements(TOR) for delivery blocks, in this case requirements transferred to MRP but will not be reserved, that will be cleared once we save the documents then system shows confirmed qty as zero.
When we remove the delivery block then system automatically carries out availability check & confirms the qty.
A) Deliveries: Blocking region for sales Area:
Here we define blocking regions for TOR ex:-credit limits
B) Reasons for scope of delivery blocks: TOR. Block:
Ex: - 01 credit limits-check confirmation block.
Maintain Requirements for TOR:-
Here we can define our own requirement with the help of ABAPer for TOR
Ex: - a) 102- prevent reservation in the event of credit block
b) 102-purchase requisitions.
System doesnt create purchase requisitions for sales order line items if it has a credit limit.
Availability check:
Configuration setting:-
Availability check with ATP logic or against planning:-
Define checking group:
Checking group define what kind of requirement record system use to create when sales order & deliveries are processed for this material. We can create 2 kinds of requirements records
Individual requirement records: that means system creates requirement record for each S&D document.
Summarized requirement Records: That means system creates requirement records under certain condition in the material master record. There are 2 type of summarized requirement record:
Summarized requirement records for each day.
Summarized requirement records for each week
Define checking Action;
Here we define 01- daily requirement -B 02- Individual requirements -A
Where b-total record per day
A-single record per day
B) Define material Block for other users:
When 2 users tries to confirm the quantities for the sales order for same material at a time system will be confused to confirm the quantities both sales orders. So has to avoid this kind of situation we can block the materials from confirming the quantities for 2 users at a check, check block
C) Define checking group default values:
Checking group is going to be determined depending upon the material type & plant.
-Go to new entries, specify material type, ex;-FERT
& plant = checking group of availability check: 02
D) Carry out for Availability check:
Here we define checking rule for the Availability check & allocate them to the checking group. The checking rules specify the scope of the availability check. For a respective transaction, means which planned receipts & planned issues systems has to taken into consideration and also it determines whether system has to take RLT into consideration.
Action:
*Select checking group of availability check-02, checking rule=01
*Go to details icon, & check which planned receipts & planned issues system has taken into consideration for availability check
*save it, exit.
E) Define procedure by Requirement class:
Here we define requirement class whether on availability check & TOR should be carried out the setting that we carries out at requirement class level they are at global level. There settings automatically copied into define from of requirement class and vice versa.
Action:
*Choose requirement class: 041 & check availability check & TOR (requirement)
F) Define procedure for each schedule line category:
Here we carry out fine tuning setting for availability check at schedule line category level. Here we define whether system has to carry out Availability check for particular transaction.
Ex:- if we want to implement a availability check w/o TOR for a particular transaction. According to settings at requirement class level TOR & availability check function activate & those setting will be copied into the schedule time category by default, so that at schedule line category level we deactivated TOR
G) Determine procedure for each Delivery Item category:
H) Checking group for updating back orders:
CHAN

Rule based ATP

hi gurus,
can some one tell about rule based availability check.
siva

hi siva,
Iterative, step-by-step availability checking process driven by self-defined rules. The results of one step determine, in conjunction with certain predefined parameters, whether the availability check should be continued.
Example:
1. Is the product available at this location?
2. If not, is an alternative product available at this location?
3. If not, is this product available at a different location?
4. If not, is an alternative product available at an alternative location?
5. If not, production is triggered.
Rules-based ATP uses the advanced availability checking methods.
Pl check this link where lots of related info on availability check is available
<a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_crm40/helpdata/en/b6/de3efc6bbcdc4b948d466857a10323/content.htm">availability check</a>
Pl reward if it helps.
Thanks & Regards
Sadhu Kishore

Changing Availability Checks in Sales orders

hi there,
Can i easily change the Availability Check in a sales order?
i have 5 sales orde rtypes, and I sometimes want to change the Availability Check, how can i manage this?
thanks

There are three types of availability checks
1. Availability Check with ATP Logic or Against Planning
2. Availability Check Against Product Allocation
3. Rule-based Availability Check
For ATP logic, the Checking group and Checking rule combination determines the availability check parameters. The checking group is maintained in the material master, and not to Sales order type. Hence you can control by having different groups attached to different materials.
If you have Advanced Planner Optimiser (APO) then you can use the Rule based availability check. You can attach a Business transaction to a Sales document type and thus control the availability check in sales order level also.
Refer the below extracts:
<b>Define business transaction</b>
Path : spro -- img -- sd -- BF -- Av chk and TOR --- Rule based availabilty check
In this step you can define the business transactions. These transactions must also be available in the APO planning system. Here the availability check control is carried out for the transactions.You can find the business transactions in the APO planning system (Field BPROC) under:
Global ATP -> Settings -> Rule-based ATP -> Conditions -> Assign rule strategy.
<b>Assign business transaction to sales order type</b> t code VOV8
In this IMG activity, you assign the actions you defined previously to the order types. This activates the availability check settings for this order type, that were maintained in the APO planning system.
Regards,

Rule based GATP Check

Hello experts,
Our team has configured rule based gatp check parameters and maintained condition technique, relevant rules with product substitution, location substitution, profile parameters and rule determination.
We are having four condition tables i.e. most specific to most generic and condition records are maintained for all the key combinations, whereas system is picking up the record, which is most generic.
Please let me know how the system picks up the condition record in rule based atp check.
Thanks and Regards,
Sai Dacha
9849030809

Hi Anupam,
Please find the comments.
Can you also check your check instruction and see if it has
--> "Activate RBA" and "Start immediately" check box checked for the check mode you guys are using and business event A
Comment:
Both the check boxes are checked for the relevant combination.
If you have this setting then I would like you to check in master data where you have created Integrated Rules:
Comment:
I've maintained only one rule, which is in valid periods.
Make sure you have maintained integrated rules correctly and assigned the correct location determination procedure.
Comment:
Checked both Production Substitution and Location determination procedures and their assignments.
--> Very basic point but no harm in checking, sometimes we miss very basic things: Do you have all the locations in APO and also products at those location which you want to populate in the sales order.
Comments:
All the combinations of products and locations are in APO.
Thanks,
Sai Dacha

Rule Based GATP

Dear All,
I'm using Rule Based ATP check for Sales Order.
When I conduct ATP simulation in APO (SCM 4.0), the results are perfect. the check triggers the rule and displays schedule lines as per rule. (Location substitution).
But when I conduct availability check in Sales order (R/3 4.7), the results are completely different. For Sales Order at Warehouse, it confirms all the requirement irespective of transportation lane lead time from plant to warehouse. Moreover, when I save the sales order, the PReqs created at Warehouse are in future instead of PReqrel in past. (compared to requirement date). Ideally, the Preqs should have same date as that of requirement date and Preqrel should be created after deducting Transporation lead time and GR/GI time.
I would like to know, what parameters in Sales Order document are used to trigger the rule and how is it different from ATP simulation.
Thank you in advance.
Regards,
Bipin K Umarale

Hi
Take a look at the following SAP Note, it gives all the FAQ's on ATP configuration in R/3, hopefully it will help you with your problem:
[Note 547512 - FAQ: Customizing of the ATP in R/3|https://websmp230.sap-ag.de/sap(bD1lbiZjPTAwMQ==)/bc/bsp/spn/sapnotes/index2.htm?numm=547512&nlang=EN&smpsrv=https%3a%2f%2fwebsmp208%2esap-ag%2ede]
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Ian

Global Availability Check (GTAP)

I have question on APO GTAP
If I understood the concept correct, you define the ATP check options in Integration model and replicate to APO
carry out GATP (rule based ) in APO.
you create sales orders in SAP ECC and CIF them to APO
What happens to the sales orders? are you assigning the delivery or confirmed quantity in APO and sending it to ECC?

Hi Dhiva
say I created sales order for 100 quantity of charis required on 1st of march
as of now 40 is confirmed.( by checking ATP rules set up in ECC/APO)
question is
will this sales order CIFed to APO? and update the remaining 60 quantity immediately in ECC
or the sales order CIFed to APO, Do availabilty check product/locatoin, allocated the confirmed date & quantity in sales order in APO itslef? then release it ECC?
another question is
say I created sales order for 100 quantity of charis required on 1st of march
if on 1st march only 60 quantity is available for delivery & ATP
The sales order should appear in Back orders.
in ECC you need to check and process back orders manaually.
How the scenario works when we implement APO GTAP? and how do check back orders processing is complete

Sales Order - Availability check for components

Hi All,
I have 2 parts to my qns.
1. When a sales order is created for a component, with a req date, the system checks & informs if the mtl can be provided on the req date & if not proposes a new date - May i know which checking rule is used & also what all does the system check for?
2. A component say 'ABC' is used internally for production purpose & also sold as a spare part. A sales order for this component is created with a req dt. say 1.3.2008. The system commits the stock to the sales order. A production order is created later with a req. dt for 'ABC' say 1.2.2008. So when i carry out a collective availability check for the plant with ATP checking rule & with availability check reset indicator ticked, i believe the system should reset the commitments made to the sales order & assign the stock to the production order, but it is not happening so. Once the commitment is made to the sales order, it is not resetting, how can i change this behaviour?
Await inputs.
Anyone to help on this?
Edited by: Vivek on Jan 15, 2008 10:56 AM

As we know, availability check is controlled by the combination of checking rule and the checking grp.
U can see this at OVZ9 Screen. checking grp is proposed from material master Sales org 2 view or MRP2 views.
In the OVZ9 screen itself, we are setting what are all the stocks the system has to include when doing availability check.
The checking rule specifies the scope of the availability check for the respective transactions in sales and distribution by specifying precisely which stocks, receipt and issue elements should be taken into account during the availability check.
Every checking rule is allocated to a checking group: together these two elements determine the final inspection requirements. In addition, the checking rule includes a specification whether or not an availability check should take into account the replenishment lead time.
Currently, the checking rule is predefined in SD.
while answering to the second question, i think the system carries out the availability check again at the time of delivery, provided u need to maintain the availabililty check indicator at req. class level.
Hope i answers.
Reward points if it is useful.

GATP - Rule based availability check

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