Gmail Sent Mail messages missing

I use Apple Mail for my GMail iMap account and I am suddenly missing the last 6 months Sent messages. Given that it's iMap, would it be safe to just delete the account and reenter it in the hope that the problem then just comes out in the wash.

Thomas A Reed wrote:
Then your sent messages have not been saved on the GMail server, so deleting the account and re-creating it will not help. If that setting was changed recently, you may have them on the server, though, so log on to GMail via the web site and check to be sure.
As to where they went, I don't know. You could try rebuilding the mailbox (Mailbox -> Rebuild), but if that doesn't fix it, and they're not on the server, then you're out of luck unless you've got those messages in a backup. If you haven't been backing up, they're gone.
Sorry, I didn't make myself clear. The reason I posted this under Apple Mail is because there is no problem at the GMail end, all the messages are there.

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I'm trying to do some detective work. I'm not sure what could have caused this, but this morning I discovered that all email messages that I sent after February 24 have disappeared.
Yesterday evening I ran MacScan, which I have configured to scan my Home folder in search of spyware and tracking cookies. I've run it previously every month, and all it has ever reported finding were a dozen or so tracking cookies; never any spyware, and there had never been any problems. Last night, it found only 14 tracking cookies; nothing else, and I instructed MacScan to isolate them. Then I quit MacScan.
After that, I ran TechTool Pro's Protection Setup, which copies directory structure data from each of my four drives to each other for safety. Then I ran Diagnostics, which checks the drives. Protection and Diagnostics run every night, with never a problem.
After that I did my regular nightly backup using Deja Vu, which includes copying my entire Home/Library/Mail folder to an external drive.
And this morning, as I said, *+everything in Mail appears fine with the exception of the missing Sent messages after February 24+*. I realize, of course, that if this was caused by something I ran prior to the backup being done, then my backup is also missing those Sent messages.
Any ideas?
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Well, BD, this may just leave you scratching your head in wonder.
In my Home/Library/Mail folder, I located the appropriate email account folder. Inside it are the folders we're accustomed to seeing: Deleted Messages.mbox, Drafts.mbox, INBOX.mbox, Sent Messages.mbox, and a file called 'MessageUidsAlreadyDownloaded2.'
Despite the fact that there are 986 messages showing in Mail's Inbox, the INBOX.mbox folder contains only FIVE messages (inside the INBOX 'Messages' folder). Yes, just 5. And, despite the fact that there are 15 messages showing in Mail's Drafts box, the 'Messages' folder inside the Drafts.mbox has only ONE message in it. Similarly, ... WAIT JUST A @#$%^&* MINUTE HERE....
I have just come back from running some errands. Prior to leaving, I had quit Mail and put the G4 to sleep. Now, all the previously missing messages (some 400 or so) are back. However, clicking on any of the messages composed and sent prior to running MacScan displays the following text: "*+The message... has not been downloaded from the server. You need to take this account online in order to download it.+*"
But the 'Messages' folder inside the Sent Messages.mbox contains only TWO messages. And what I described two paragraphs earlier is still true. How can Mail display messages that aren't even present in the corresponding folders?
Wow... I am stumped.

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I do not believe that I have it set to empty or delete itself after a certain time.
I can probably find these messages from comcast/gmail but still am wondering about this issue.
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This could be a gmail thing and not a .mac but I can't find a setting in gmail that seems to account for this action.
I check my gmail with Mail and only occasionally use it to send stuff but when I do, at the end of the day, Mail seems to download a CC of the mail that I've sent (which I've not actually CCd or BCCd to myself). Does anyone know if this is a mac preference that I cant turn off somewhere?

Not sure what you mean. If those messages are being sent using Gmail’s webmail interface (which you haven’t made clear), this is normal Gmail behavior and Mail has no bearing on it.
Gmail POP access doesn’t work like a normal POP mail server would. Here are some of its idiosyncrasies (#4 could be what you’re observing):
1. Messages downloaded by any conventional POP mail client are marked as downloaded at the server (but not as read on the web), and no longer available to either the same or any other POP mail client.
2. To make already downloaded messages available for POP access again, you must go to Gmail’s Settings > Forwarding and POP page, select Enable POP for all mail, and click Save Changes, which causes everything (and I mean everything) still on the server to be downloaded again.
3. The Mail > Preferences > Accounts > Advanced > Remove copy from server settings have absolutely no effect on the messages stored on Gmail’s server. Gmail ignores any requests to delete messages from the server made by a POP client. What happens to the messages on the server after a POP client has downloaded them is determined by Gmail’s Settings > Forwarding and POP > When messages are accessed with POP setting alone. In the case of Gmail (and only in that case), I recommend turning OFF Remove copy from server in Mail, so that Mail doesn’t even try to remove any messages from the server, regardless of whether you do actually want already downloaded messages to be removed from the server after some time or not.
4. Messages sent using the web interface will be downloaded by your POP mail client as if they were received messages. Although this may seem weird, it's good because it allows archiving all messages locally in Mail, regardless of how they were sent — as long as you don't access the same Gmail account with more than one POP mail client, that is. You can set up a rule in Mail to automatically route those messages to the appropriate Sent mailbox (or to any other mailbox for that matter) if that's what you want.
5. Messages sent using a POP/SMTP mail client such as Mail are also treated as if they were incoming messages for POP purposes, just as in #4. What prevents them from being downloaded is that Gmail marks them as already downloaded immediately. Since they’re on the server nonetheless, already sent messages would be downloaded together with all the other messages on the server if proceeding as described in #2.
6. A particular case of #5 are messages sent to yourself. Instead of putting a copy of the sent message in the server’s Inbox and making it available for download, both the sent and the “received” message on the server are actually one and the same, and hence, cannot be downloaded via POP for the reason explained in #5.
7. Gmail allows POP accounts to be set up in a special way that avoids some of these issues while introducing others. If you only need POP access to the last 30 days of mail, you may configure Mail in “recent mode”, as described in Using POP on multiple clients or mobile devices. Configuring the account this way would allow Mail to download messages marked by Gmail as already downloaded (and download messages sent to yourself in particular), but it would also cause all sent messages (not just messages sent to yourself or through webmail) to be downloaded as if they were received messages.

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Hello,
WHat is the difference between the Sent Mail Folder and the Sent Messages Folder on my Gmail accounts on my iPhone? I use IMAP.
Any help would be much appreciated.

Hi, this is how I solved the problem you're describing a long time ago.
http://5thirtyone.com/archives/862
Basically, this link explains how to configure properly Gmail in Apple Mail and iPhone too.
Hope it helps, it's easy to understand and follow.
This other article instead is on my "to read" list since it came out, but I still have to find the time and guts to dive into it. It looks very complete and thorough.
http://db.tidbits.com/article/10253

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If I look at my gmail account on my computer via my browser the sent mail is correctly sitting in my sent folder and does not appear in my inbox.
This seems like a bug in iPhone. Mail I send from the phone should only appear in sent items box and not in my phone inbox.
BTW, I do not have the option to CC myself turned on in the iPhone settings.

web interface...
I have hostrocket as my hosting for my domain....
I can use outlook with IMAP, and get all folders from the mail server with no problems... If I use the webmail interface to access my email account, and I send an email, it will always appear in the inbox as well... and when I go in with outlook, there is that send email still, so I move that email to my sent folder so I have a record of it being sent....
So, I guess the iPhone interface is doing the same thing... send an email from it, and you get a record of the email in the inbox so you can move it to the sent folder.
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It seems very difficult to find out what is causing the problem.
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I've created folders for past years Sent mail and tried moving my messages out of my Sent folder (for several accounts). They seem to move, but then I get a very basic error (with no details..): "34 messages could not be moved to the mailbox "2009 Sent -- On My Mac" An error occured while moving messages to mailbox "2009 Sent -- On My Mac"
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Short story: I upgraded a Mac from 10.3.9 to 10.4.3 and now none of my old received mail messages are in my inbox.
Long story: Installed Tiger using "Archive and install". Repaired permissions. Installed the combo updater to 10.4.3 using software update. Repaired permissions again. After the system was upgraded to 10.4.3 I opened mail. It said it was importing messages. However, when it was done, there were only 6 messages from the last few days. The other 400 or so messages that had been in mail (in the inbox) in the previous version were not in the mailbox. I tried rebuilding the mailbox. This resulted in losing all of these 6 messages. I tried importing from the old account mailbox and mail re-created the mailbox structure, again with only 6 messages in the inbox.
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Hi Ernie! I really appreciate your assistance. Are you ready for this? I had 13 POP accounts... Here is the current info on the files on my Mac (upgraded from 10.3.9 to 10.4.3 last night)
Pop Account 1 Folder (Main email account lost all inbox messages)
INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (3.9 MB)
- content_index-h-67-100-128-207.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net-542 (5.3MB)
- Info.plist (4KB)
- mbox (117.1 MB)
- Messages (empty folder)
- Messages-T0x560b9f0-pyksdq (contains file named 1.emix, 4KB)
- tableofcontents (264 KB)
Pop Account 2 Folder (Smaller email account appears to be intact)
INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (208 KB)
- Info.plist (4KB)
- mbox (416 KB)
- Messages (Folder contains 31 "emix" files, 488 KB)
- tableofcontents (8 KB)
Pop Account 3 Folder (Minor email account - not much was here, might be ok)
INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (16 kB)
- content_index-h-67-100-128-207.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net-542 (8 KB)
- Info.plist (4 KB)
- mbox (4 KB)
- Messages (Folder contains 1 "emix" file, 4KB)
- tableofcontents (4 KB)
Pop Account 4 Folder (important email account lost all inbox messages)
INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (1.4 MB)
- content_index-h-66-167-49-109.sttnwaho.dynamic.covad.net-455 (1.4 MB)
- Info.plist (4KB)
- mbox (3.3 MB)
- Messages (empty folder)
- Messages-T0x560b9f0-4voERb (contains 1 "emix" file, 4KB)
- tableofcontents (40 KB)
Pop Account 5 Folder (Minor email account - couple messages made it)
INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (20 kB)
- Info.plist (4 KB)
- mbox (8 KB)
- Messages (Folder contains 2 "emix" files, 12 KB)
- tableofcontents (4 KB)
Pop Account 6 Folder (Minor email account - couple messages made it)
INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (8 kB)
- Info.plist (4 KB)
- mbox (4 KB)
- Messages (Folder contains 1 "emix" file, 4 KB)
- tableofcontents (4 KB)
Pop Account 7 Folder (important email account - inbox seemed to come through - not positive it is all there, but it looks good)
INBOX.mbox contains:
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- content_index-localhost-574 (2 MB)
- Info.plist (4KB)
- mbox (25.9 MB)
- Messages (Folder contains 670 "emix" files, 25.9 MB)
- tableofcontents (176 KB)
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- content_index (628 MB)
- Info.plist (4KB)
- mbox (2.7 MB)
- Messages (Folder contains 130 "emix" files, 2.9 MB)
- tableofcontents (28 KB)
Pop Account 9 Folder (Minor email account - couple messages made it)
INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (116 KB)
- Info.plist (4 KB)
- mbox (1.9 KB)
- Messages (Folder contains 4 "emix" files, 1.7MB)
- tableofcontents (8 KB)
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INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (16 KB)
- Info.plist (4KB)
- mbox (12 KB)
- Messages (Folder contains 4 "emix" files, 20 KB)
- tableofcontents (4 KB)
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- content_index (756 MB)
- Info.plist (4KB)
- mbox (13.6 MB)
- Messages (Folder contains 152 "emix" files, 12.3 MB)
- tableofcontents (60 KB)
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INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (500 MB)
- Info.plist (4KB)
- mbox (5.7 MB)
- Messages (Folder contains 93 "emix" files, 5.5 MB)
- tableofcontents (24 KB)
Pop Account 13 Folder (inbox messages appearing - not sure they are all there)
INBOX.mbox contains:
- content_index (80 MB)
- Info.plist (4KB)
- mbox (128 KB)
- Messages (Folder contains 13 "emix" files, 148 KB)
- tableofcontents (4 KB)
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