Grab activity - Queries

Hi,
I was looking into Grab activity. I have few queries..
1. Defined Grab - we have both in & out transitions. What value is added by Grab over here? For me it looks simple flow
2. From all - After each activity in the process, instance will come to Grab but there is only one out transition from Grab. Not able to visualize how it is used in aprocess & how the fow(sequence) is managed
3. From All-To all - Here actual process flow (as it gets executed) will be based on User choice for "To" from grab. Is it right understanding?
It will be really great if someone could give business example of how Grab can be used in a process.
Thanks
Sujata

How wud u do it using Global Interactive.. I mean PAPI code can only be used outside BPM .. I guess?
So where do u write this PAPI code and point it to assign a particular participant to a particular GRAB activity out of a number of participants in the same role i.e. manager?
Do you use a screenflow inside the Global Interactive and then use Prepare - Commit Methods or how do u call the PAPI code from a Global Interactive to assign the participants to a GRAB activity at runtime?

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Sure it's just me, but I got a bit lost with the description of what you're trying to do. One place I got lost was in the discussion of roles. Roles are used in Oracle BPM processes for a variety of reasons, but I'm not sure they're germane to your problem so I'm trying to rephrase your question without their use.
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In the Process Community, when a user clicks on the grab activity, the grab hangs at the grab instance on the first click. Is there a way to get the instance to move along so that it passes the grab to the next activity?
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Mariano,
I just read through this thread, and I have a follow-up response.
If I have a "defined" Grab - one transition leading TO it, and one transition going AWAY FROM it, then I attach a screenflow to the grab so that the user who grabbed the item can do something, I would like the process to automatically continue along to the next Activity that the outgoing transition leads to.
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Post-conditions
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Sourav
sourav biswas wrote:
wat i meant was...since as far as i can understand..the GRAB role can grab all instances from all activities...*u can change the runtime property -Grab Type to From ALL/to ALL option*...in that case u dont need to add in coming and outgoing transitions from grab activity....Your suggest is interesting, but I do not think it will work for me, we want to our team lead to grab the developers and redirect their activities, not to grab our project manager or vp. grab ALL/to All may put us in trouble.
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I have some questions regarding the grab activity in ALBPM 6.0:
1.) When is the code contained in the activity's main task executed, before the grab or after the grab's target activity has been selected?
2.) If it's the latter, how do I know/get which activity the user has selected in the grab? I'm asking since automatic activities are not visible in the grab yet all my interactive activities should have some processing done for them before they are executed. I want to do some activity-specific processing after a target has been selected in the grab but before the instance get's redirected.

Here is what you do:-
1) Create a screenflow with 3 activities ,2 automatic and 1 UI Interactive Activity.
2) 1st activity will be an automatic activity where you put your code to assign participants like the participants list obtained from the db, the activity names etc..
3) In the UI Interactive Activity, create an UI which displays this info to the end user. The end user can then select an activity and the participant name from the drop down list from the UI and submits.
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ERROR: cannot grab an automatic activity

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I am trying to showcase the GRAB activity. I am able to grab from a timer wait and interactive. I wanted to depict the GRAB from an automatic activity. To simlate a 'long running' automatic activity, i put a thread.sleep() (wait) in it.
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Regards,
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Instance '/Process#Default-1.0/1/0' could not be grabbed in activity 'Automatic2'. Details:
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I'm not sure there's a good answer to your question. Grabbing from an automatic activity seems counter productive to me. I must ask why do you want to "Showcase" grabbing from an automatic activity anyway?
Automatics shouldn't take long time to run and so there shouldn't be a need to grab them. If the automatic will take a long time, they need to be divided up in to smaller work units. This can be done in a split-n/join. Long running threads will time-out. You don't want to hang up engine threads in an automatic. I would think long-running activities can be broken down into shorter running work units. It would be better to show grabbing from an exception handling routine. This is where problematic automatics should end up if they are taking to long or need to be grabbed and moved do to some problem.
HTH

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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/44/599b3c494d8e15e10000000a114084/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/en/be/076f3b6c980c3be10000000a11402f/frameset.htm
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https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/659fa0a2-0a01-0010-b39c-8f92b19fbfea
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/a6c54319-0e01-0010-20a4-fb81ad32f330
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