Group and direct selection tools

I am hovering above artwork with both the Direct Selection tool and the Group Selection tool and they both seem to show the same paths and anchor points.
I am also not sure that I see a difference when selection shapes or groups.
1. Is there any difference with the info that is displayed when hovering over shapes and paths with either of these tools?
2. How does using the group selection tool differ from the direct selection tool?

1. there seems to be no difference
2. basically among other uses, the direct selection tool is used to edit paths/segments, and the group selection tool is used to move paths or groups.

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1000x this. My designs are 100% vector shapes, so if Adobe have changed this core behavior intentionally, they’ve just made my life a lot more difficult.
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Edit: is it a vector mask or a standalone path?
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Message was edited by: Printer_Rick: Added Edit: Can you pull on the bezier handles?

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I thought, based on what I read in the Illustrator help files, that the technique Joe describes would work. However, it doesn't seem to. If I have the object selected and then use the Direct Selection Tool (either by holding down CTRL or by selecting the white pointer tool from the palette) to click on a single vertex, all the vertices remain selected. I tried both click-and-release and click-and-hold but the behavior is the same either way.
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