HD frame sizes and pixel aspect ratios

I have 1920 x 1080 HD footage shot on the Canon 5D Mark II and trying to add some filters to it in AE and then render as a 1280 x 720 file. None of the DVC PRO HD presets seem to get me to this frame size and when I've rendered to that frame size the renders come out distorted, indicating to me that the pixel aspect ratio is off. The DVC PRO HD preset renders a 960 x720 movie. I've been told that these will play at 1280 x 720 but am nervous about this as the work is for an event and I don't want anything to go wrong. I can't figure out how to render a movie that has the right dimensions and the right pixel aspect ratio.
One workaround seems to be to render at 1920 x 1080 and import it into Final Cut and make it 1280 x 720 there. But of course this is an extra step.
Any advice out there? Thanks in advance,
Loch

I don't quite follow. Feel free to define a custom composition size as you see fit. Indeed AE does not provide presets for everything, but given the plethora of possible output targets, this cannot be the goal of such an exercise. You should only use the DVCPro preset, if you plan on roundtripping without modifying the resolution, i.e. writing the modified clips back to a tape with the same specs/ via the same deck. The more interesting question here is, whether the stuff will actually be played via such a deck on the event or if it e.g. will be output from a BluRay disc via a Playstation or something. In the latter case they'd probably even prefer it to remain at the original full HD res for output via HDMI without extra conversions, as the 960x res would be of no use to them...
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