HELP: how can we make BPEL PM more developer friendly
Hi All,
With the new year starting, one of our resolutions for 2005 is to enhance the developer experience for BPEL PM and we are looking for suggestions and help in prioritizing them. Given that some of you guys have kicked the tires, you are the best source for those suggestions. I hope that you guys will be vocal.
We are interested in the end to end experience: OTN, Download, 1 st hour, documentation, product development, console, this forum, anything else that is part of the overall experience.
If you do not like to post, please just send me an email.
Thank you!
Edwin
VP Product Development
Oracle BPEL Process Manager
[email protected]
Edwin,
I might have several suggestions as I'm sinking my teeth into the PM Server and Designer. We're considering to use the BPEL technology in the BIG way.
First of all, make it a bug-free (as much as possible). Let me describe to you what I believe is a bug or a flaky design. In the Designer, File>New>Oracle BPEL Project creates a new project with a file bpel.xml. For example, look at your CreditFlow sample. In that file there is <partnerLinkBinding name="..." <property name=wsdlLocation"> http://<host name of the WSDL host server>/....
when the partner WSDL is hosted on the localhost that <host name> in the line above is the name of my machine instead of 'localhost'. Then, <project name>.bpel validation crashes when you're in the off-line (disconnected) mode or connected via VPN gateway (since obviously you think you don't need a proxy because everything is local). But, even if it works inside the LAN I think it's a bad design; since it's generated automatically by Designer the developer doesn't have a clue what's wrog when he/she needs to debug your code. The Designer should stick there 'localhost' instead of the the name of my computer on the network.
Here how I spotted it. I generated you CreditFlow sample in the Quick Start Tutorial. I went by the book, Compiled the CreditFlow.bpel and it crashed! The book did not say it was supposed to crash. The book said everything should be honky dory. The Validator printed a message: "connection timeout...." Since I'm new to the BPEL it took me awhile to figure out and once I stick 'localhost' in the right place in bpel.xml everything worked. Again, I was running everything on localhost.
So, I think it's a bug at worst or a flaky design at second. What am I missing here?
The problem is that if my company wants to convert the Biz Analysts into BPEL modelers how could a BA figure out the solution to the problem like this? He/She would just give up and tell the Technologists (us) that this is a bad product.
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