Help needed on memory parameter abap/buffersize

Hello Basis Gurus,
One of the programs in CRM system is failing with dump LOAD_PROGRAM_LOST.
I checked note "1798524 - Runtime error "LOAD_PROGRAM_LOST" when using Segmentation in CRM WEBUI" which seems to be relevant to our situation and found that the parameter 'abap/buffersize' is already on higher side i.e. > 3GB. Please let us know if we need to increase more and if yes then what is the dependency on any other memory parameters?
PS: I always have this question in general on memory parameters due to their sensitive nature (system may not start or adverse impact on other memory parameters). Functional/abap team asks to always increase it but how to check what is the impact and any possible dependency on other memory parameters...!!!
Thanks & Regards,
Kunal.

Hi Kunal,
LOAD_PROGRAM_LOST can have multiple possible causes; a too-small program buffer is just one possibility. At 3 GB, yours does seem like it's probably big enough, but there's no way to tell that from the outside without a lot more information.
Does the same program always fail with this dump, or just sometimes? What else is going on in the system when the dump occurs? Are there transports going into the system around that time? Is it really busy at that time? What happens if you run the program by itself during a quiet time, with nothing else going on? Is this a PRD system? Or perhaps a DEV system?
What sort of statistics do you have on the program buffer when you look at it via ST02? Note that since it's practically impossible to buffer every program, you will inevitably have some swaps in this buffer. That's normal operation. What you might do is look at the history of swaps and get a sense of the average number per day. If you consistently get more than 1000 swaps per day (not 1000 swaps total -- that's not important), as an average, then you might want to consider increasing the size of the buffer. If you only occasionally get spikes higher than this, but typically the number of new swaps each day is less, then you probably don't need to increase the buffer.
The other thing you need to look at is available extended memory. Since the program buffer is quite large, you must make sure there is plenty of available memory for extending it, should you decide to do so. You can get a sense of this from various stats, like the ratio of MaxUse to In Mem for Extended Memory on the same ST02 page, and from OS07N (or ST06). Do you have plenty of free physical memory? Are you getting a lot of paging out? Things like that. If your free physical memory looks good, then you have room to expand.
But again, this may not even be the cause of your dumps.
Bear in mind, if you increase the parameter and have problems restarting the system, you can always fall back by decreasing it again, so other than the planned downtime for the restart you don't lose much by giving it a try. If you increase it and the system starts fine, you will need to keep an eye on those memory use statistics over the following days to ensure all is well, but likely if the system starts ok, then you'll be ok. The days of too-large program buffers causing startup problems were mostly associated with 32-bit systems.
Cheers,
Matt

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    select * into table it001 from t001.
    export it001 = it001 to memory id 'ZXY_TEST'.
    clear it001. refresh it001.
    import it001 = it001 from memory id 'ZXY_TEST'.
    loop at it001.
    write:/ it001-bukrs, it001-butxt.
    endloop.
    SAP Memory
    SAP memory is a memory area to which all main sessions within a SAPgui have access.
    You can use SAP memory either to pass data from one program to another within a session,
    or to pass data from one session to another.
    Application programs that use SAP memory must do so using SPA/GPA parameters (also known as SET/GET parameters).
    These parameters can be set either for a particular user
    or for a particular program using the SET PARAMETER statement.
    Other ABAP programs can then retrieve the set parameters using the GET PARAMETER statement.
    The most frequent use of SPA/GPA parameters is to fill input fields on screens
    ABAP/4 Memory
    ABAP memory is a memory area that all ABAP programs within the same internal session can access
    using the EXPORT and IMPORT statements.
    Data within this area remains intact during a whole sequence of program calls. To pass data
    to a program which you are calling,
    the data needs to be placed in ABAP memory before the call is made.
    The internal session of the called program then replaces that of the calling program.
    The program called can then read from the ABAP memory.
    If control is then returned to the program which made the initial call, the same process operates in reverse.
    SAP memory
    The SAP memory, otherwise known as the global memory,
    is available to a user during the entire duration of a terminal session.
    Its contents are retained across transaction boundaries as well as external and internal sessions.
    The SET PARAMETER and GET PARAMETER statements allow you to write to, or read from, the SAP memory.
    ABAP/4 memory
    The contents of the ABAP/4 memory are retained only during the lifetime of an external session
    (see also Organization of Modularization Units).
    You can retain or pass data across internal sessions.
    The EXPORT TO MEMORY and IMPORT FROM MEMORY statements allow you to write data to, or read data from, the ABAP memory.
    ABAP Memmory & SAP Memmory
    http://www.sap-img.com/abap/difference-between-sap-and-abap-memory.htm
    http://www.sap-img.com/abap/type-and-uses-of-lock-objects-in-sap.htm
    Set
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6345/set_para.htm
    GET
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6345/get_para.htm
    EXPORT
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6345/export01.htm
    Other Imp Help
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6345/abapindx.htm

  • Hi All,Can any provide an example for SAP MEMORY AND ABAP memory

    Hi All,
          Can any provide me an example for SAP MEMORY AND ABAP memory.
    thanks&regards.
    Bharat.

    HI Bharat
    A simple example of ABAP memory is using the EXPORT/IMPORT statements.
    Here in this program, I get the data, export it to memory,
    clear out the internal table in my progam, then reimport the data into it and write out the data.
    You probably wounldn't do this in a normal program,
    but this is how you can pass data from program a to program b when A Submits program B.
    report zxy_0002 .
    data: it001 type table of t001 with header line.
    select * into table it001 from t001.
    export it001 = it001 to memory id 'ZXY_TEST'.
    clear it001. refresh it001.
    import it001 = it001 from memory id 'ZXY_TEST'.
    loop at it001.
    write:/ it001-bukrs, it001-butxt.
    endloop.
    SAP Memory
    SAP memory is a memory area to which all main sessions within a SAPgui have access.
    You can use SAP memory either to pass data from one program to another within a session,
    or to pass data from one session to another.
    Application programs that use SAP memory must do so using SPA/GPA parameters (also known as SET/GET parameters).
    These parameters can be set either for a particular user
    or for a particular program using the SET PARAMETER statement.
    Other ABAP programs can then retrieve the set parameters using the GET PARAMETER statement.
    The most frequent use of SPA/GPA parameters is to fill input fields on screens
    ABAP/4 Memory
    ABAP memory is a memory area that all ABAP programs within the same internal session can access
    using the EXPORT and IMPORT statements.
    Data within this area remains intact during a whole sequence of program calls. To pass data
    to a program which you are calling,
    the data needs to be placed in ABAP memory before the call is made.
    The internal session of the called program then replaces that of the calling program.
    The program called can then read from the ABAP memory.
    If control is then returned to the program which made the initial call, the same process operates in reverse.
    SAP memory
    The SAP memory, otherwise known as the global memory,
    is available to a user during the entire duration of a terminal session.
    Its contents are retained across transaction boundaries as well as external and internal sessions.
    The SET PARAMETER and GET PARAMETER statements allow you to write to, or read from, the SAP memory.
    ABAP/4 memory
    The contents of the ABAP/4 memory are retained only during the lifetime of an external session
    (see also Organization of Modularization Units).
    You can retain or pass data across internal sessions.
    The EXPORT TO MEMORY and IMPORT FROM MEMORY statements allow you to write data to, or read data from, the ABAP memory.
    ABAP Memmory & SAP Memmory
    http://www.sap-img.com/abap/difference-between-sap-and-abap-memory.htm
    http://www.sap-img.com/abap/type-and-uses-of-lock-objects-in-sap.htm
    Set
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6345/set_para.htm
    GET
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6345/get_para.htm
    EXPORT
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6345/export01.htm
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/fc/eb3bc4358411d1829f0000e829fbfe/frameset.htm
    Other Imp Help
    http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Campus/6345/abapindx.htm
    Regards Rk

  • Examples for SAP Memory and ABAP Memory

    Hi all,
        can u give me one example of sap memory and abap memory.
                                              Ranjith

    Hi,
    <b>SAP Memory</b>
    SAP memory is a memory area to which all main sessions within a SAPgui have access. You can use SAP memory either to pass data from one program to another within a session, or to pass data from one session to another. Application programs that use SAP memory must do so using SPA/GPA parameters (also known as SET/GET parameters). These parameters can be set either for a particular user or for a particular program at the time of logon using the SET PARAMETER statement. Other ABAP programs can then retrieve the set parameters using the GET PARAMETER statement. The most frequent use of SPA/GPA parameters is to fill input fields on screens .
    <b>example:</b>
    ABAP programs can access the parameters using the SET PARAMETER and GET PARAMETERstatements.
    To fill one, use:
    SET PARAMETER ID pid FIELD f
    This statement saves the contents of field f under the ID pid in the SAP memory. The ID pid can be up to 20 characters long. If there was already a value stored under pid, this statement overwrites it. If you double-click pid in the ABAP Editor, parameters that do not exist can be created as a Repository object.
    To read an SPA/GPA parameter, use:
    GET PARAMETER ID pid FIELD f.
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    <b>ABAP Memory</b>
    ABAP memory is a memory area that all ABAP programs within the same internal session can access using the EXPORT and IMPORT statements. Data within this memory area remains throughout a sequence of program calls, with the exception of LEAVE TO TRANSACTION. To pass data to a program that you are calling, the data needs to be placed in ABAP memory before the call is made from the internal calling session using the EXPORT statement. The internal session of the called program then replaces that of the calling program. The program called can then read from the ABAP memory using the IMPORT statement. If control is then returned to the program that made the initial call, the same procedure operates in reverse.If a transaction is called using LEAVE TO TRANSACTION, the ABAP memory and the call stack are deleted. They cannot be used for data transfer.
    Since objects belonging to ABAP objects can only be accessed within an internal session, it does not make sense and is therefore forbidden (from a syntax point of view) to pass a reference to an object to a calling program through the ABAP memory.
    <b>Example:</b>
    Export hello to memory id 'Hello_world'.
    Import hello from memory id 'Hello_world'
    Regards
    Sudheer

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