Help with Logic Key Commands

So i just jump from Cubase to Logic ind i like it.
But there was a very nice key commands in Cubase and i cant set same in Logic:
When i draging the region(holding Alt)in Cubase he make a copy of region
So,can i do the same in Logic?
Thanks!

Have you tried it?
Yes, holding the alt key down (also known as the option key), and then dragging, will copy a region.

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    0x9660c000 - 0x96bc6fff libBLAS.dylib ??? (???) /System/Library/Frameworks/Accelerate.framework/Versions/A/Frameworks/vecLib.fr amework/Versions/A/libBLAS.dylib
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    Can anyone help me with this problem? Thanks.
    My Logic 8 crashes right after I installed Leopard. Just after launching Logic I get a few messages that say:
    Key or key combination reserved.
    Key or key combinations " " has been removed from command "Go to previous layer" as it is now reserved for "cycle through window views"
    I get about three of these messages for different key commands and after hitting okay Logic starts
    and then crashes before it launches the arrange window.
    I get the following report
    Process: Logic Pro [565]
    Path: /Applications/Logic Pro.app/Contents/MacOS/Logic Pro
    Identifier: com.apple.logic.pro
    Version: 8.0.0 (1437.23)
    Build Info: Logic-14372300~12
    Code Type: PPC (Native)
    Parent Process: launchd [94]
    Date/Time: 2007-10-28 20:52:13.755 -0400
    OS Version: Mac OS X 10.5 (9A581)
    Report Version: 6
    Exception Type: EXCBADACCESS (SIGBUS)
    Exception Codes: KERNPROTECTIONFAILURE at 0x0000000000000000
    Crashed Thread: 9
    Thread 0:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95af51d8 sem_wait$NOCANCEL$UNIX2003 + 12
    1 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x228ec9a4 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 4364
    2 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0012bb68 0x1000 + 1223528
    3 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0050e9e0 0x1000 + 5298656
    4 com.apple.Foundation 0x962c2784 nsnotecallback + 372
    5 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x928ef9d8 _CFXNotificationPostNotification + 920
    6 com.apple.Foundation 0x962bffb8 -[NSNotificationCenter postNotificationName:object:userInfo:] + 88
    7 com.apple.AppKit 0x950c4c7c -[NSApplication _postDidFinishNotification] + 108
    8 com.apple.AppKit 0x950436a8 -[NSApplication finishLaunching] + 1888
    9 com.apple.prokit 0x022056bc -[NSProApplication finishLaunching] + 320
    10 com.apple.AppKit 0x95042c2c -[NSApplication run] + 96
    11 com.apple.prokit 0x022060d0 NSProApplicationMain + 292
    12 com.apple.logic.pro 0x00003328 0x1000 + 9000
    13 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0000302c 0x1000 + 8236
    Thread 1:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95a629d8 machmsgtrap + 8
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95a698fc mach_msg + 56
    2 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x9290d664 CFRunLoopRunSpecific + 1828
    3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9383be3c HALRunLoop::OwnThread(void*) + 212
    4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9383bc80 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 104
    5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa4bf8 pthreadstart + 316
    Thread 2:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95a62a58 semaphoretimedwait_signaltrap + 8
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa5e9c pthread_condwait + 1320
    2 com.apple.Foundation 0x96300178 -[NSCondition waitUntilDate:] + 384
    3 com.apple.Foundation 0x962fffa4 -[NSConditionLock lockWhenCondition:beforeDate:] + 268
    4 com.apple.AppKit 0x950a4dfc -[NSUIHeartBeat _heartBeatThread:] + 660
    5 com.apple.Foundation 0x962c2dd4 _NSThread__main_ + 1004
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa4bf8 pthreadstart + 316
    Thread 3:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95a693ec _semwaitsignal + 12
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa5fa0 pthread_condwait + 1580
    2 libGLProgrammability.dylib 0x943c6a28 glvmDoWork + 120
    3 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa4bf8 pthreadstart + 316
    Thread 4:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95ac7064 select$DARWIN_EXTSN + 12
    1 com.apple.CoreFoundation 0x92918ab4 __CFSocketManager + 764
    Thread 5:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95a62a38 semaphorewait_signaltrap + 8
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa5eac pthread_condwait + 1336
    2 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0066f3e0 0x1000 + 6743008
    Thread 6:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95a62a38 semaphorewait_signaltrap + 8
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa5eac pthread_condwait + 1336
    2 com.apple.logic.pro 0x0066f3e0 0x1000 + 6743008
    Thread 7:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95a62a58 semaphoretimedwait_signaltrap + 8
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa5e9c pthread_condwait + 1320
    2 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9384d884 HP_IOThread::WorkLoop() + 488
    3 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9384d684 HPIOThread::ThreadEntry(HPIOThread*) + 12
    4 com.apple.audio.CoreAudio 0x9383bc80 CAPThread::Entry(CAPThread*) + 104
    5 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa4bf8 pthreadstart + 316
    Thread 8:
    0 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95a62a38 semaphorewait_signaltrap + 8
    1 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95a69c94 pthreadmutexlock + 648
    2 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x2291d518 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 203904
    3 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x228ec2b0 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 2584
    4 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x228ec4a0 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 3080
    5 ...opellerheads.rewire.library 0x22924a04 RWPUnregisterDeviceImp + 233836
    6 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa4bf8 pthreadstart + 316
    Thread 9 Crashed:
    0 ??? 0000000000 0 + 0
    1 ??? 0x22f53490 0 + 586495120
    2 libSystem.B.dylib 0x95aa4bfc pthreadstart + 320
    3 ??? 0000000000 0 + 0
    Thread 9 crashed with PPC Thread State 32:
    srr0: 0x00000000 srr1: 0x4000d930 dar: 0xe0023000 dsisr: 0x40000000
    r0: 0x00000000 r1: 0xf039dde0 r2: 0x1e1b7f40 r3: 0x19f066c0
    r4: 0x1e1b7f40 r5: 0x00000000 r6: 0x00000005 r7: 0x00000001
    r8: 0x00000008 r9: 0x00000004 r10: 0x00000004 r11: 0x00000010
    r12: 0x1e1b7f40 r13: 0x00000000 r14: 0x00000000 r15: 0x00000000
    r16: 0x00000000 r17: 0x00000000 r18: 0x00000000 r19: 0x00000000
    r20: 0x00000000 r21: 0x00000000 r22: 0x00000000 r23: 0x19f066c0
    r24: 0x00000000 r25: 0x1e1b4bb0 r26: 0x1e1b4bb0 r27: 0x1e1b4bc4
    r28: 0x22e40be0 r29: 0x1e1b7f40 r30: 0xf039e000 r31: 0x1e1ba6f0
    cr: 0x48000024 xer: 0x20000000 lr: 0x22f90924 ctr: 0x00000000
    vrsave: 0x00000000
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    I think there's a need for perspective. when you buy an apple product you get 90 days of free phone support to get everything working nice and neat. you can call them whenever, and you could actually keep them on the phone all day if you wanted, making them explain to you how to copy a file, install microsoft office, or any number of little questions no matter how simple - what is that red button thingy in my window for?.. on top of that, you've got a 14 day dead on arrival period (or 10 days I can't remember) in which if your machine has any kind of hardware fault whatsoever it's exchanged for a totally new one, no questions asked. a lot of people complain that applecare is overpriced.. and if you think of it just as an extended warranty, then it is a little pricey. but if you are someone that could use a lot of phone support, then it's actually potentially a total bargain. the fact that 2 or more years after you bought a computer, you could still be calling them every single day, asking for any kind of advice on how to use anything on the machine, is quite something. many people on this forum have had problems when they made the mistake of upgrading to 10.4.9 without first creating a system clone or checking first with their 3rd party plug in vendors to make sure it was ok. so, with apple care, you could call them and keep a technician on the phone _all day_ talking you through step-by-step how to back up all of your user data, how to go through and preserve your preferences and any other specific settings you might not want to lose, and then how to rollback to an earlier OS version.. they'll hold your hand through the whole thing if you need them to.
    as for applecare support for pro apps like logic, I'd be the first person to agree that it's not great for anyone except beginners and first time users. if you look at what it takes to get even the highest level of logic certification, it's all pretty basic stuff. and logic doesn't exist in a vacuum, there is an entire universe of 3rd party software and hardware, as well as studio culture and advanced user techniques that are going to be totally invisible to some poor phone support guy at apple that did a logic 101. but it's not hard to see that apple are trying to promote a different kind of support culture, it's up to you to decide whether you want to buy into it or not.
    the idea is that they are able to provide basic setup support for new users, including troubleshooting. because it's a simpler level of support, at least they can do this well. so there's no reason why any new user with say a new imac and logic can't get up and running with the 90 days of phone support they get for free.
    but the thing is, for extremely high end pro users it's a different matter altogether. pro use of logic within the context of say, a studio or a film composition scenario is a very different world. it's almost a nonsense to imagine that apple could even hire people capable of giving useful support for this end of the spectrum, over the phone. there are so many variables, and so many things that require a very experienced studio person or in-work composer to even begin to understand the setup, let alone troubleshoot it. and it's a constantly evolving world, you actually have to be working in it and aware of developments on 3rd party fronts as well as changes in hardware.. not to mention even changes in the culture of studio production and the changed expectations that come from that. there's no way some poor little guy sitting at a help desk at apple can even hope to be privy to that kind of knowledge. it's already good enough that they don't outsource their support staff to india, let alone go out to studios and hire the very people with the skills that should be staying in the studio! not answering phones for apple.
    so, given this reality.. companies have two choices. they can either offer an email based support ticket system, which others do. but in my opinion.. this can just be frustrating and only a half-solution. sure you 'feel' like you are getting a response from the people that make the software and therefore must know it.. but it's not really the case due to what I said above. DAWs don't exist in a vacuum, and so much of what you need to understand to help people requires an intimate knowledge of the music industry in which they are working. you still won't get that from steinberg, even if they sort of answer your emails. the other problem is that this kind of system can mean sporadic answers, a lot of tail-chasing, and quite often you won't get an answer that helps you in the end anyway.
    the other model is to foster a strong user support culture. some people react in the wrong way to this idea.. they just think it's a big brush off from the manufacturer, saying we don't care, go sort it out yourselves.. but this isn't true. apple has a classification for pro resellers called 'apple solutions expert - audio'. what this means is that these dealers are recognised as audio specialists and they can receive extra support and training from apple for this. but more importantly than this.. most of them are music stores, or pro gear dealerships that are also mac and logic dealers. they already employ people that have worked or do work in the music industry, and are constantly on top of all of this stuff. apple encourages these dealers to run workshops, and to provide expert sales advice in the very niche area that logic is in, which they can do far better than some generic apple store ever could. but most importantly, they are encouraged to offer their own expert after-sales support and whatever other value-adding expertise they can, to get sales. because margins in computer gear are so tight nowadays, discounting is not really a viable option for these dealers to guarantee getting musicians to buy computers and logic setups from them. the only companies that can entice people with a lower price a big online wholesalers or big chain stores. so the best idea for these niche expert stores to get sales is to offer you their own experts to help with configuration, ongoing support and to generally make it a better idea that you bought your system from them rather than from some anonymous online store. I can see the wisdom of this.. it puts the support back out there on the ground where it's needed, and also where it can work best. apple could never hope to offer the same level of expertise in helping a film composer work through some issues with a specific interface or some highly specific issue they have with getting a task done. no big software manufacturer could do this anywhere near as well as people out there that have worked in studios or currently do work in studios. so in my opinion it's a far better model to foster this kind of support culture, along with training courses, books and training video support. also user forums like this one are possibly one of the most valuable ports of call anyone could ask for. apple couldn't replicate this with their own staff, even if they tried. and even if they made a system where some of the people close to logic development were able to answer emails, it would still be nowhere near as useful, as rapid or as capable of being up to speed with logic use out in the real world with 3rd pary gear, as any of these other methods are.
    the only thing I think they could do better would be to publish a list of known bugs which are officially recognised. this would help everyone and put an end to a lot of wasted time and speculation on if something is a bug totally to do with logic, or if it's a specific issue raised by a particular configuration.
    but really, in my view, a 3rd party support and training culture through a combination of specialist dealers, consultants that literally run a business setting up computers for pro-users and helping them keep it all working, online user-to-user forums and published materials really are the way forward.

    In all honesty this is currently the 3rd "logicboard" (motherboard)
    in my powerbook due to a design flaw regarding the 2nd memory slot....
    Yep. Mine failed five weeks after I bought it. However, I bought it for work and couldn't afford being without it for four weeks while they fixed it, so I had to live with it. My serial number did not entitle me to a replacement either, post Applecare.
    My firewire ports have burnt out from a third-party defective device (no hot-plugging involved)
    My screen is blotchy (my PW serial number did not entitle me to a replacement).
    My battery serial number did not entitle me to a replacement, and is not that good these days.
    My guaranteed Powerbook-compatible RAM is actually not, causing RAM related problems, most notably these days meaning that as soon as I switch to battery power, the laptop crashes, so I can only use mains power. The company I bought it from stopped taking my calls and wouldn't replace it after they replaced it once, so I'm stuck with it. And of course, only one ram slot is working, so I can't even use my original stick in the first slot, which would shift the dodgy stuff away from the lower system area.
    My power supply failed at the weak spot and caught fire. I managed to break apart the power supply and recable it so I didn't have to buy a new power supply, although the connection at the laptop end is loose (all the more fun that as soon as power is lost, the laptop crashes - see above). The power supply is held together with gaffa tape. Silver gaffer tape though, so it's still kind of 'Appley"...
    My internal hard drive is dying - four or five times now it clicks and won't power up, causing the laptop to die.
    One foot has fallen off (but glued back on).
    The lid is warped.
    The hinge is loosish.
    The S-Video adaptor cable is intermittent.
    But aside from all that, I have looked after it well, and I love it to death. Just as well, because it doesn't look like it will be that long...
    But it still "just works". Apart from the battery power obviously. And the ram slot. And the ram. And the screen. And the hard drive. And the firewire ports. And the feet.
    But everything apart from the main board, the screen, the case, the hard drive and the power supply works fine. So thats... er..
    Hmm.

  • Noob needs help with Logic and Motu live setup.

    Hello everyone,
    I'm a noob / semi noob who could use some help with a live setup using 2 MOTU 896HD's and Logic on a Mac.
    Here's the scenario:
    I teach an outdoor marching percussion section (a drumline and a front ensemble of marimbas and vibes). We have an amazing setup of live sound to amplify and enhance the mallet percussion. There is a yamaha PA system with 2 subs and 2 mains which are routed through a rack unit that processes the overall PA balance. I'm pretty sure that the unit is supposed to avoid feedback and do an overall cross-over EQ of the sound. Other then that unit, we have 2 motu896hd units which are routed via fire-wire. I also have a coax cable routing the output of the secondary box to the input of the primary box (digital i/o which converts to ADAT in (i think?)..?
    Here's the confusion:
    There are more then 8 inputs being used from the ensemble itself, so I need the 16 available inputs to be available in Logic. I was lead to believe that the 2nd motu unit would have to be sent digitally to the 1st motu unit via coax digital i/o. Once in Logic, however, I cannot find the signal or any input at all past the 8th input (of the 1st unit).
    Here's the goal:
    All of my performers and inputs routed via firewire into a Mac Mini running OSX and Logic pro.
    I want to be able to use MainStage and run different patches of effects / virt. instruments for a midi controller keyboard / etc.
    I want to be able to EQ and balance the ensemble via Logic.
    Here's another question:
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    Any help would be REALLY appreciated. I need the routing assistance along with some direction as to whether or not this will work for this type of application. I'm pretty certain it does, as I have spoken with some other teachers in similar venues and they have been doing similar things using mac mini's / logic / mainstage / etc.
    Thanks in advance,
    Chris

    You'll definitely want to read the manual to make sure the 896HDs are connected together properly. ADAT is a little tricky, it's not just a matter of cabling them together. Go to motunation.com if you need more guidance on connecting multiple devices. Beyond that initial hookup, here are a couple of quick suggestions:
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    2. You may need to create an aggregate device for the MacBook to recognize more than the first 896HD. Lots of help on this forum for how to do that. Again, first make sure you have the 896HDs connected together properly.
    3. As for latency with Mainstage on the Mini, no way to know until you try it. Generally MOTU is fantastic for low latency work but Mainstage is a question mark for a lot of users right now. If the Mini can't cut the mustard, you have a great excuse to upgrade to a MacBook Pro.

  • Help with logical model

    Hi, I am new to this software and need some help with a simple logical model.
    Here is the task:
    I need to create a model for a parking garage.
    Each level can have any number of lots.
    There are different types of lots (handicapped, women, regular, ...) with different Prices and Sizes.
    It is important for the users and the system to know whether a lot is free or occupied.
    It is crucial to assign numbers to the lots, so users can find it again.
    And this is my model:
    Level 1:n Lot n:1 Type
    (#Level) (#Number,*Availability) (#Type,*Price,*Size)
    Question:
    Is it correct or would you change something? I am not quite sure whether to make availability and level an entity or an attribute of Lot.
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    Edited by: user13256814 on Jun 2, 2010 3:51 AM

    Hi Bhaskaran,
      u can see the logs correspoding to your application in the server location..
    \usr\sap\<sid>\<instance_number>\j2ee\cluster\server0\
    i think ur application folder will be there inside this or within one subdirectory here.
    http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04s/helpdata/en/fe/4f5542253fb330e10000000a155106/content.htm
    U can check the service entries in services file which is located in
    <Drive Name>:\WINDOWS\system32\drivers\etc...
    but normally in JCO Connection test , if it is not showing errors(especially MetaData) , then it means this entry is there in the services file.
                                   Regards
                                     Kishor Gopinathan

  • Help with figuring out commands for test!

    These are study guide questions, I would appreciate any help!!
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    Select one:
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    Searches one subdirectory level deep and finds the least recently modified file in each subdirectory
    Recursively searches for the file named "0"
    Searches each subdirectory and finds the most recently modified file
    Recursively searches for the newest file on the system
    What does the following PowerShell command do?
    PS C:> Select-String "[0-9]{10}" audit.log
    Select one: Searches for the literal string "[0-9]{10}" and returns each line containing the string
    Looks for and returns the first instance of the literal string "[0-9]{10}" in the file audit.log
    Looks for and returns each line containing 10 consecutive digits in the file audit.log
    Looks for and returns the first number that is exactly 10 digits found in the file audit.log
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    What does the following PowerShell command do?
    PS C:> ls -r -fo | ? { $_.LastAccessTime -gt (Get-Date).AddDays(-1) } | select LastAccessTime, Name
    Select one: Finds all files, excluding hidden files, accessed in the last day and outputs the last access time and filename
    Finds all files, excluding hidden files, accessed in the last day and outputs the last access time and the user
    Finds all files, including hidden files, accessed in the last day and outputs the last access time and filename
    Finds all files, including hidden files, accessed in the last day and outputs the last access time and the user
    Finds all files, including hidden files, accessed more than one day ago and outputs the last access time and filename
    What does the following PowerShell command do?
    PS C:> Get-Process cmd | ? { $_.StartTime -lt (Get-Date).AddHours(-1) } | Stop-Process
    Select one: Kills any cmd.exe process that has been running for longer than an hour
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    Kills any cmd.exe processes that started exactly one hour ago
    Kills any cmd.exe process that has started in the past hour
    Starts cmd.exe after pausing for one hour
    What does the following PowerShell command do?
    PS C:> ls \users\ephil\Documents | % { move $.FullName -dest $.FullName.ToLower() }
    Select one: Moves each file in \Users\ephil\Documents to a lower directory
    Moves each file in \Users\ephil\Documents to the directory named FullNameToLower
    Moves files with all lowercase characters to \Users\ephil\Documents
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    Renames each file in \Users\ephil\Documents to lower case

    It really doesn't help you learn if we're giving you the answers to questions. That said, there are a number of places where the code you've posted has syntax errors. Any place you see "$" with nothing after it in that code (ie, "$.StartTime" or "ls $ |",
    assume they meant to type "$_" ("$_.StartTime", "ls $_ |").
    There are also a lot of aliases and partial parameter names in the code.  This may be deliberate, to get you to play around with the commands and figure out what the cryptic notation really means, but I don't think it's very helpful.  We encourage
    people to use full command and parameter names in scripts to enhance code clarity; the same standard should be applied to your test questions.  Aliases are an optional convenience if you want to save some typing, once you're comfortable with them.
    So, here are the aliases used in your questions, along with their actual command / parameter name:
    % : ForEach-Object
    ? : Where-Object
    ls : Get-ChildItem
    sort: Sort-Object
    select: Select-Object
    move: Move-Item
    -r:  (as a parameter to ls / Get-ChildItem) -Recurse
    -fo: (as a parameter to ls / GetChildItem) -Force
    -dest: (as a parameter to move / Move-Item) -Destination
    Yes the $_. turned out as $. for some reason.
    Could you help me with any of these questions? They will really prepare me well for the test. If you could provide answers for any of them I could then work backwards and figure out how to arrive at the answer.

  • Clash of Mac and Logic Key Command Assignments

    Greetings to all
    I use a Mac Powerbook G4 laptop 15" Model 5,8
    In Logic I have keys F9-F12 programmed as the slow and fast rewind forward and back ( ie 4 commands in all)
    The Mac factory programmed short cuts, F11 and F12 are usually used for Expose/Mac functions but are reprogrammable, so I went into System Preferences/Keyboard and reprogrammed them as OPTION F11 and F12 for Mac functions.
    This then allowed me to use F11 and F12 for the dedicated Logic function.
    However, Apple System Preferences for some reason does not 'remember' the reprogrammed keyboard short cut ... which means that each time I boot up Logic, I have to go into System Preferences and reprogramme the short cuts in Apple again.
    Can anyone suggest a solution?
    Powerbook G4   Mac OS X (10.4.8)  

    Hi
    Sounds like you are still using the (old) Logic 8 (?) key commands. Zoom was changed in the Logic 9 defaults to Control+Option and the arrow keys.
    Control Arrow L/R controls Mission Control in Lion (ie 'Spaces').
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  • Help with Unique Key Insert!!!

    I need help with this <<removed by moderator>>
    When i try to do an insert "A" into a DB table, the transaction fills the info on creation mode, but is not doing the same at modification mode.
    Here i send the insert, i don't if the problems comes from sintaxis:
    INSERT zpsprctr_det FROM TABLE it_planif ACCEPTING DUPLICATE KEYS.
    tabal base datos es la zpsprctr_det
    Any ideas please let me know
    Moderator Message: Gun-to-the-head-deadline removed
    Edited by: kishan P on Mar 31, 2011 12:24 PM

    Hi,
    with
    INSERT dbtable FROM TABLE itab ACCEPTING DUPLICATE KEYS.
    you will insert several lines in a database table from an internal table. Duplicate keys are ignored, the 1st entry is written.
    To update them, you should use
    MODIFY dbtable FROM TABLE itab.
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  • Help with Logic Pro 8 Outputs

    Hi
    Struggling with something that i imagine is very simple but just cant work it out! Please help me.
    I will be using Logic 8 within a live environment and need to basically get various audio tracks 'out' of logic via my interface into a mixing desk.  I have 8 sub outs on my interface which is fine for me. (prob lots of people do this also with a mixing desk in the studio environment for intergration with the desk and outboard gear so i 100% sure it can be done!)
    Prob 1 is that the track sub outs in logic come in stereo pairs. If i want bass to go to output 1 , and kick for eg to go to output 2, how can i do this???? Is there a way to change the track outputs to mono?
    Prob 2 is that if i change the outputs in one session, for example click to output 3 - 4, vocals for example to output 5 and 6, then save the session, close and reopen, they have all reverted to output 1 and 2. In a live situation it is annoying to have to change these before each song starts!
    I play in a electro band that incorperates live drums, analog synths, logic audio (backing tracks kinda thing) aswell as live instruments, and finding logic pretty challenging to use for this!! We are flat broke and cant afford new stuff so have been living with it but we are now starting to need more outputs (for the benefits of live mixing , ie not giving the engineer a stereo out) . Surely the mixer in logic is capable of these totally bog standard audio routing options?!?!?
    Thanks alot for any help
    David

    jayme Lewis wrote:
    So here's the problem. I went on a shopping spree recently and purchased an 8-core Nehalem 8-core Mac with 14 GB RAM, Apogee's Symphony system (With Rosetta 800 and AD-16X), and I use this gear with Logic Pro 8.
    I still get system overload messages. Sometimes with only 1 virtual instrument and 8 audio tracks!
    What gives? I'm running the fastest machine on the fastest system with the fastest/cleanest hardware.
    I'm running Logic Pro on all of its highest settings (like it should).
    ?It's highest settings?
    Do you mean the sample buffer is at 32 or 1024.
    Even though you have Apple's flagship system it's still possible for Logic to bring it to it's knees. High sample rates plus a couple of space designer reverbs can send a single core into an overload condition.
    Try these settings under Preferences/Audio.
    I/O Buffer Size - 256
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    More info.
    What sample rate and bit depth are you recording at? ie: 48kHz, 24-bit?
    When you open Logic's CPU meters are you seeing a single core spiking?
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