Highest quality Blu-ray disc encoding question ...

I did a bit of searching on old posts, but still wasn't clear on the answer. My source footage is 1280x720, 59.94p and came from a Contour+ helmet camera where the files are stored in a .mov file with H.264 encoding. My video is only 9 minutes long. What is the best method to produce the highest quality single layer BD out of PP and Encore in this case?
One response I can envision is that isn't going to matter in this case given the camera/source. Otherwise, would one be better off using Adobe Dynamic Link and letting Encore choose the settings or selecting the format/preset and tweaking the video settings in PP and importing the resultant files into Encore?
If PP, I have seen some posts saying MPEG2 Blu-ray will produce a better result if the bit rate is cranked up high. But then others imply H.264 will likely come out better. I also noticed that the H.264 video settings allow increasing the bit rate there as well.
I will have a question on video settings depending on the answer above.
Thanks!

Thanks Ann. Everyone else confer or do we have any MPEG2 advocates? Assuming H.264, what video settings would you change from the default beyond the frame dimensions and frame rate? I'm a layman/consumer, but at a glance I thought perhaps "VBR, 2-pass" would have merit as I thought I read somehwere that produces a better result (encoding time doesn't matter for me). What about increasing the Target and Maximum Bitrate sliders all the way to the right (my video is short)? What about the Render at Maximum Quality check box (I'm still confused on that one and when to use it)?

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Bad Quality blu ray disc, no matter what settings I use.

I hope somebody has a solution for this issue:
I exported a .m2t file from premiere using the mainconcept pro hd plugin. the video is a 1920 x 1080i 29.97 fps .m2t video at the highest mpeg quality settings on the plugin. The file its 29 gigs on size and looks great when played back directly, it is 1 hour and 45 minutes long. Then I imported the file to encore cs3 and made a nice set of menus and chapters, etc. Then I set the quality settings for transcoding to the best quality mpeg for 1920 x 1080 interlaced video, and check the project settings as well to the best quality. And here is when I notice a few strange things: 1.- The disc info bar, in the Build section, shows that the blu ray disc is using only 2.7 gigs of space, even when the .m2t file is 29 gigs and I`m using the best quality settings. 2.- the preview image in the monitor section looks choppy and very low quality. 3.- finally, after hours of transcoding and burning, the quality of the finished blu ray disc is very, very bad, and the total size of the files burned into the disc is about 7 gigs total. I tried many different quality settings in the program, but the results are the same or worst. I tried burning the original 29 gigs file using other program (cyberlink power producer) with no menus, and the results are far superior. (the things is I need the menus and chapters in this project, so I HAVE to do it in encore). Is there a way to get a decent quality blu ray using my video file in encore ? Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

I had a couple of other thoughts.
Are you using an Apple possibly with Leopard OS?
If a PC which OS.
How do you view the 29 GB file when you say it "looks great when played back directly"?
Have you ever successfully burned a bluRay disk with your system?
29 GB seems too big for that amount of footage (at least to me).
You might check out this thread (particularly post #7 of 9)
http://www.adobeforums.com/webx?128@@.59b5bb15
which describes a workflow revolving around H.264. and the possible role of "forced interlacing" by Encore.
I don't know if Jeff would agree, but there are a lot of problems with BluRay authoring. All you have to do is look up and down the list of posts. Personally, I think I bypassed all that by using Cineform.
John

HT4095 Are hd videos as good as a blue ray disc?

Are HD movies purchased on iTunes as good as an actual blue ray disc? Do they sound as good to?

No. Blu Ray is generally the gold standard.
Although video compression has come along since DVD, there is far more data generally in a Blu Ray disc encoding.
In addition iTunes purchases offer only stereo or Dolby 5.1 surround - no DTS or more modern enhanced formats.
The big question is will you notice any difference?
iTunes movies are getting pretty good now, but occasionally I have issues with banding instead ofsmoot gradients in dark or light areas which distracts me.
I never notice this with Blu Rya and assume it's an encoding issue.
AC

Authoring an HD Blu-ray disc from an HD camcorder

The bottom line question:
I have a Canon HF200 video camera; it records files with the *.MTS extension. I would like to import, edit, and author this information/video footage into a Blu-ray disc, so as to be viewable with a Blu-ray player, all the while maintaining HD quality.
My MacPro is of the early 2007 vintage, running Tiger; I anticipate upgrading to Snow Leopard as well as adding a Blu-ray burner, as long as my machine will support it.
What else will I need to ensure a full HD-quality Blu-ray disc? Will Final Cut Express 4.0.1 accomplish this (as opposed to Final Cut Studio, et al)?
Again, a big Thanks to All for assisting me with this issue!

Dave Lokken wrote:
... have a Canon HF200 video camera; it rec.. to be viewable with a Blu-ray player, all the while maintaining HD quality.
*Plan B)*
consider usage of a socalled MediaPlayer:
export your final project as a sleek h264 file in 'FullHD' res to any ext. HDD
connect that HDD to a Western Dgital TV HD , this to your 90" Home Theater done.
avoids disks (you can use LAN or WLAN either...), offers FullHD, usability as iTunes (=access to all media files on your Mac), ...

Encoded video doesn't work on Toshiba Blu-ray disc player

I have a problem that I am trying to encode a sequence of frames in a video container , but the encoded video doesn't work on toshiba blu ray disc player .. I am using the following ffmpeg command to encode frames and convert them to a video:
ffmpeg -i "C:\ManVsWigan\Frames\%d.png" -vcodec libx264 "C:\ManVsWigan\encoded.mp4"
I tried multiple video codecs but no luck yet
"-vcodec mpeg4"
"-vcodec mpeg2video"
If you have any idea please help me

The BluRay player leverages parts of Windows DirectShow but won't serve very well as a general player since Windows will load other players for the majority of media formats.
You can get away with a limited amount of tampering of the BluRay's players tolerance of media files until you violate some far away written DRM safeguard and kneecapping the BluRay player from doing anything.
If you're trying to validate your ffmpeg composed tests of your content as part of the editing process, you're better to avoid relying on the BluRay player that is purposed for narrow replay of licensed content and equipped with oversensitive safeguards susceptible to malfunctioning from the invasions of video pirates like you defined by studio executives.
You and I understand you're not a pirate but chances aren't being taken.
Whether you just dowloaded FFmep in the macho exe format or part of the millions of other packages that include it, you can tune your players to codecs pretty easily with the KLite Codec Manager or the Registry.
Chances are you already know about KLite since editing video on Windows eventually requires it and its hard to walk down the street without eventually kiceking over a copy. But just in case you've been living on a Martian cave with your hands over your ears, snag a mirrored copy from: http://codecguide.com /download_kl.htm
I like KLite more than others because it is fairly unobtrusive and avoids stomping over other media tools the way Adobe Premiere or Sony Vegas enslaves Windows and can neuter BluRay codecs without always adequately replacing them. I can cite threads on the matter but just googling for anything such as "Adobe Premier killed my BluRay" or "Sony Vegas ruined Windows" will usually return desperate strings of posts long enough to wrap around Jupiters equator.
For general maintenance of Windows poor codec management, grab this noninstalling executable http://www.nirsoft.net/utils/installed_codec.html to determine if Windows believes it has the same codecs you thought it did and you'll likely be surprised by the fine tuning you'll need to perform.

Question re set up: Samsung Blu Ray Disc - 55" Samsung LED 3DHDTV - Denon Receiver

We brought this package home yesterday. We have it hooked up as follows, pursuant to Best Buy's recommendations at the store where we bought it: We have the Bresnan cable box hooked into the Denon receiver in the appropriate place with an HDMI cord. We have the Blu Ray Disc hooked up to the Denon receiver in the appropriate place using an HDMI receiver. We have an HDMI cord in the spot marked "Monitor" on the Denon receiver running to the HDMI1 spot on the Television. Everything works fine, except for one problem. We can't watch cable television without the Blu Ray disc ON. If we are watching something on cable, and we turn off the Blu Ray disc, we get fuzzy white and black "ant races", but we can still hear the program. We have to unplug the Blu Ray Disc if we don't want it running all the time. I assume this could be bad for a Blu Ray. This does not make any sense at all. They should all operate independently of each other. I have also called technical support and they are stumped. Waiting for a call back from a sales person at the local store. Anyone out there have any ideas. The store sales people suggested that the best way to connect the components was with HDMI cords. I have already spent $300.00 on HDMI cords alone. Hopefully, someone out there has some ideas. THanks.

Hi again - I thought I would report back to you on the status of my issue. I stopped by our Best Buy store and talked to another person again. We wanted to see if we could bring back the Denon receiver and switch it out for another one. After explaining our situation, the guy talked to his manager. The manager had a suggestion that we try before switching out the receivers. I don't necessarily understand it, but you probably will. He said (and this is NOT verbatim - just kind of what I picked up out of the conversation) that because we were using two Samsung compenents (BD and TV), that they were trying to work with one another, but we had some kind of interference with the Denon receiver and the Bresnan cable box, and that something was getting caught up and trying to work back through the BD. Like I said, I don't understand it completely. He suggested we go to our TV menu and find where it says Anynet+. We were to check to see if that was turned on. He wanted us to turn it off. Once we did that, everything started working great. So we are up and running with a simple menu fix. Thank goodness it was that easy. I thought I would just report this to you so that in case you see any more similar problems, you can try this fix.
Thanks again for your help yesterday. Have a great day.
Lori

What is a Blu-ray Disc-compliant asset?

I know this question sounds silly, anyone knows what Blu-ray Disc-compliant assets are? (I imagine 1920x1080 etc, etc) but is there a definition anywhere that explains more about it, I couldn't find it anywhere in the Adobe Help documents, according to the Adobe Encore Help : 'Blu‑ray Disc-compliant assets typically do not require transcoding", obviously I want to avoid transcoding any HD files if possible. Thanks for your help.
Luis

lbecerril wrote:
And yes like demon_hunter83 said, I do want to get the best possible quality (regardless of encoding/transcoding time), but I'm asking this question because I want to build my projects in a blu-ray format, and because my (slow) computer just took 53+ hours to transcode 1 hour 12 minutes and 58 seconds of HD footage to a DVD ISO built, I have no complains about the DVD quality I got, but I basically want to avoid transcoding at all possible, for those 2 reasons, first the time it takes to transcode and second to avoid any quality loss (if any), but when I hear people say that I have to transcode the files but at the same time the provided help says that it can be avoided by using blu-ray disc compliant assets I have to stop and ask someone who has been there or that has much more experience than me. Thanks again.
what that means is, if you bring in a mp4 or whatever file recorded on your camera, take it off of your camera memory, and dump it straight to Encore, completely vanilla, it HAS to trasncode it to a DISC proprietary format (be it DVD or Blu-ray) for it to work on a set-top player. if you take that SAME mp4 file, import it into premiere pro, and edit it (or dont. your choice), then export the video out to 'mpeg dvd/Blu-ray,' or 'h264 bluray,' THAT file will import into encore without needing to be trasncoded (because premiere already did that for us). so thats why it says "that it can be avoided by using blu-ray disc compliant assets" because they are importing a DISC proprietary asset that has already been trasncoded in premiere/avid/final cut/vegas/etc first.
as far as it taking forever and a day to trasncode, that is just the nature of working with HD if your system is not optimal. what are your specs for your system?
i prefer to do all encoding in premiere, while others (hunt, and such) prefer to drag in AVI assetts to encore and let it go, but with encore not having true background processing, i basically have to allocate a huge chunk of time to do that. so i would much rather set all assetts how i want them, and set up a queue for AME and while assetts are transcoding in AME, i can work on making menus and crap in Encore/PS and that is my preferred workflow. i set the assetts to trasncode to disc compliant formats, so all i have to do is drop it in encore, set my menu links to the assetts, and build disc.
but you can NOT get around having to transcode your camera footage. EVERY single one of us who uses any kind of format other than film, has to recompress an already compressed format to get it to disc. atleast with film you can work with notive lossless form source, somewhat. but such is working with digital captureing formats
the only way to avoid trasncoding to a blu-ray/dvd spec file is to burn an AVCHD disc, but those are NOT blu-ray spec, so it depends on the players and alot of factores whether or not they would even play. and encore does not even burn those types, so you would have to find other software that does that. but thats the only way i can think of... but again... it would have to be purely vanilla files from the camera, because if you did any editing in premiere, you have to transcode all that info to one final file... preferably a disc proprietary format

Problems creating Blu Ray Discs with AME Presets in CS4

After several weeks wasted (months back) with an ATI 5750 graphics card in Win 7/and CS4 (not working correctly) - I finally resolved by swapping with a NVidia GTS250 card .....but all my troubles are not over yet ....
I'm running Premiere CS4 and have finally just got down to testing creation of a Blu Ray test disc from some AVCHD 1920x1080 HD footage I am editing from my new camera.
My work in CS4 is just testing at present as I used to use CS3 [still have on my dual core machine with Matrox RTX2] - and have successfully created Blu Ray discs from HDV material in CS3 - but using Blu Ray MPEG 2 settings.
New machine Win 7 - 64 bit
Premiere CS4 is at 4-2-0 version
Encore at 4-0-1 version
These are the last updates
I've selected a short test piece (about 2 mins)on Premiere timeline and initially tried Media export using Adobe Media encoder.
I selected H264 BluRay codec in media encoder. Hi quality 1080 25 fps.(PAL)
This creates dual MP4 Video and Audio streams
Encode process goes OK, just slightly slower than real time, (I'm using i7-930 Quad Core and Win 7 64 Bit)
Now - when I come to input the encoded video file into Encore as an Asset - Encore freezes and the whole machine locks up !!!
Audio file imports OK but the Encore software does not like the encoded Video file
I've re-installed Premiere and Encore twice in case of bad install. It wasn't that.
I also found Adobe Media player couldn't play the file created by AME either - but it would play on a Premiere timeline?
So is Adobe Media encoder messing up here ?
So - .....3 hours of testing later ....I stumble on a Support thread from someone on the Forum that they found AME preset has "HIGH" in the Encoding Profile Preset - when it should be MAIN ?.
Not sure what these settings do - but tried changing that parameter and re-encoded the Video file with H264 BluRay setting - all to no avail as when I try importing again the machne just locks up ?
My final search in Premiere help file about creating BluRay discs ONLY talks about using MPEG 2 BluRay setting for creating BluRay discs
It does not specify H264. Why is that?
Can one of the moderators / experts confirm if H264 Blu ray format is supported for BluRay disc creation in CS4 please??
Better still please tell me the exact settings for Adobe Media encoder so it will import into Encore without having to be transcoded again.
H264 should work - yes ?
Final comment
As an alternative method, I tried sending the short timeline in Premiere (using Dynamic Link) to Encore to test that route for making a BluRay disc
Bearing in mind the sequence is only about 2 mins long - when I ty to Transcode using the engine within Encore - the process takes a ridiculously long time and twice it has crashed just before the end of the process......
Can someone explain why the encode process in Encore takes such a long time as I thought it used the Adobe Media encoder engine as well.?
Adobe Media Encoder is much faster used stand alone mode.
Encore seems to not use that ?
Anyway - conclusion is that using Encore to encode the tmeline is a non starter as it takes too long.
why so slow on such a fast machine?....I know HD encoding is demanding but not that demanding with a decent machine.
So the question is ....
How do I encode in the most efficient and fastest way possible (using H264) for Blu Ray authoring into Encore without need for more Transcodes?
Any help or suggestions welcome as I'm now hitting my head against the wall :-)
I have not gone through Adobe Support desk as it is usually a waste of time.{Dear VP of Adobe Customer Service - please do get this sorted out in the near future if you want to retain loyal customers....}
I cannot believe how disappointing CS4 is turning out to be.
After investing in a very fast PC machine etc the whole user experience is somewhat of a let down.
Why so many issues for such a small test??

Picking up on my original post about H264 - as I have a dual boot machine I also have a clean installed Win 7 /64bit partition which I use for general bits of work.
On that I have CyberPowerDVD SW installed which plays all Video files fine including BluRay material etc.
Interestingly when I try to play the file that AME has created from the BluRay H264 preset it says 'It cannot play the file as it is a format it does not recognise...'
This is really weird and would suggest AME is not encoding the file corrrectly??
I have already removed and made a re-install of CS4 on my main [video editing] partition but there were some fragments of CS4 left intact
How do I completely remove everything?
I tried the CS4 clean script but it said it relied on Microsoft CLean Up utility and gave a link
When I loooked on Microsoft web site the link to download it had been removed?
Also Adobe say the CS4 remove script is no longer supported ?
Can anyone advise on the correct tool/procedure to completely remove CS4 from a Win 7/64bit installation so I can then try re-install of CS4 one more time....in case the installation is corrupt in some way
I can't explain why I am having this problem otherwise if other people find AME encodes OK with H264 BluRay preset.

Is it possible to write 2 different project on one blu ray disc?

I have about 23 Gb project of stills photos and still cameras video clips. But I also have some additional footage on hd from an hd video camera.
My blu ray disc are all 50 gb and I wonder if I could add a second project to the disc and how to go about it, as well as if it is possible how I'll create menu/s to get it working.
I posed the question in quite a few places but it does not return any relevant answer.
I have not worked with blu ray before but since the writers are much cheaper it became affordable for me and I got an external usb Samsung writer.
Window 7 recognises it but Encore (CS 4) does not - anyway I found out it's probably better to use the "folder" option than the disc. I have created a rewritable BD using the image (iso) option with "imgburn". and although it stopped at 75% I was surprised that the BD plays with the complete project and no problem! (my rewritable is only 25Gb) so I can't experiment with with these particular projects.) Thank you

My try does not seem so lucky
I added to my earlier succesful BR project 2 more time lines. On one I had video clips from several still cameras (2 panasonic and one Nikon) and on the other timeline, my .mts clips from my hd Everio video cam.
The Encore projects was previewing well and did not return any error (pre building).
I output the encoding to a folder and followed the imgburn well detailled instruction to burn to a folder, i found them on the net and they were very well explained and my burning went exactly through the same steps explained.
so the procedure progressed over a few hours (it showed the size of 25.5 GB) When it was complete the disk was ejected with a message that it could not be shut again and this happens with slim external drives or Laptops.
I'm not sure what is going on now, but when I put the disk in my entertainment player It asked me If I want copy or format the disk and it won't play.
As this is the second time it happens I put it back in my BR writer, and like the first time It's going threw (I think), a "miscompares" check.
Now it's through 40% and not showing any error, but i seem to remember that I clicked "Yes" to ignore "miscompare"
So I don't really know what is going on, this is almost like 15 hours the process has been on (including the retry).
The BD-RE (50gb DL) is the same colour as the new one I have not idea if anything is written on it.
My first successful project was only animated stills with sound track added to it and burnt onto a rewritable 25 gb BR.
Well any help will be welcome:)
mm

Partial Audio Missing on Blu Ray Disc

I have a project that is approximately 90 minutes that was created in Premiere CC. When I burn a Blu Ray disc for this project using Encore CS6, and subsequently play the disc in a Blu Ray player, the last 4-5 minutes of audio is missing. It plays perfectly all the way through in Encore when I watch it in the monitor, and if I play the audio file separately on my computer, the entire thing is there. I don't understand what could possibly cause this issue. No matter how I transcode, MPEG2, H.264, etc. it still has the issue during playback on a Blu Ray device. Any suggestions?

Regarding Encore building a Blu Ray disc and having the audio quit part way through the video, I also have experienced that nasty problem.
From reading the Ray Tisdale postings on this issue, I discover that I had a similar problem, and have discovered a resolution which I wanted to share, to help others experiencing this mystery (which I have no doubt there are).
My project is 15 chapters of story, one hour 10 minutes total, a documentary, developed in chapters using Permier Pro in CS6. These were developed separately, exported to files separately, imported into Encore, then placed in sequence on a single timeline. This is how I am accustomed to doing it, having recently migrated to CS6 from Sony Vegas Pro 12.0/DVD Architect 6.0 (If DVD Architect did not blast the image resolution down to approximately VHS when producing DVDs, I would still be using it). The project in question was originally developed using Sony Vegas, but I could not get image quality up to decent standards (two years of messing around, debugging, dealing with tech support, and etc.), so I ported the entire video image for image and word for word to CS6, essentially manually remaking the entire video for the second time (a six month part time effort).
Reading Ray Tinsdale's post gave me the clue as to what might be happening with my project. As a BD I would experience full program operation when Previewing and when burning a DVD, but a Blu Ray build would make a disc that started off fine - three complex menus with music and the first chapter working fine (audio and video) but part way throuigh the second chapter the audio just quit and stayed missing for the remainder of the video (images were fine, full BD resolution).
No amount of effort would resolve the problem. Besides trying multiple changes - such as synchronizing file format of all audio, and innumerable other attempts at guessing the cause - this (requiring about two days of my time) included taking a brand new Solid State Drive, installing Windows 7 from distribution disc, installing all computer drivers, and only software necessary to run CS6 (including Encore), update windows (192 updates) and CS6, and all other software, and protect from internet virus (etc.). A computer as fresh new as it could be from the factory still produced the same problem when Encore made a BD disc. This effort narrowed the problem down to being an Encore problem. P.S. I had done the same with Vegas Pro to determine the image resolution was an internal Vegas problem, not my use of the program or details/settings of my project.
On reading Ray Tisdale's resolution I revised my project to have 17 timelines (including two others besides my 15 story chapters - such as splash screen and etc.). Timelines are linked as necessary to play as if the chapters were sequentially placed on one timeline. After some brief and trivial debugging using the check project function, I rendered to a folder - discovering that the audio was not missing, although I was unable to get it to play as a BD disc from the folder. With this success I burned a BD disc and now I have a BD video with audio from start to finish.
Although I now have a working video with audio start to finish (as I designed my documentary), there is an annoying pause between chapters as the BD player shifts between files (each chapter/timeline is built into a separete file and linked as specified). From my DVD Architect experience I know that the only resolution to this (pause between chapters when playing on DVD or BD player) is to produce a single rendered output file combinining all chapters in Premier Pro, then to render it as a single huge output file (requiring an equally huge amount of time - this was 12 hours with Vegas Pro, and I have not yet tried it using PP). When the single huge output file is imported into Encore and placed on one timeline chapter markers are inserted at appropriate points, so that navigation menus can function as designed.
Now, I suppose that I am better off than with Sony Vegas. Both have extraordinarily annoying and mysterious deficiencies and bugs (which the program vendors will not admit) and extraordinarily annoying problems. But at least with CS6 I get good quality video images.

Downsides to multiplexing audio for H.264 Blu-ray disc?

I have a 9 minute video; personal/consumer use; 1280x720; 59.94; source video from a Contour+ helmet camera that stores .mov, H.264; audio is on a separate track from my own selection of mp3 files (it is a music video). I have three intended playback targets: Blu-ray disc, Sony PS3 native, and PC/Windows Media Player. Is there a big downside on video or audio quality in this case using multiplexing to produce a single .m2t file imported into Encore to produce the BD vs. separate .m4v/.wav files? Not a huge deal, but having to maintain one production files vs. three is a minor plus if it makes little to no difference on the BD front.
Depending on the answer, If I use the H.264 Blu-ray format/preset in PP to produce the .m2t file does Encore have to re-encode? I am assuming Encore does not reencode if I am using separate .m4v/.wav files.
Thanks

You must always remember gents, when you multiplex, there is a BUFFER attached to that (computer term that means a chunk of size and bit defined fast memory space that holds an intermediate piece of data for shuttling to the next piece of hardware). This changes the MAX Bitrate allowed for your video (but it doesn't show in AME cs6 and I don't think it shows in lower versions; not sure about cc). Since you are tying one stream to another, and effectively weaving the data into one stream, you are maxing out the amount of data you can pass in that stream. Only certain types of data can be read in this manner. Think of it this way, you have taken two sets of data with different bit widths, and different bit-sample rates, and tied them together into one stream. This stream still has to fit in the max data rates of the medium. Your video cannot exceed 30mb\s and you are also left with another problem. Audio, without mux, has so many different formats and bit fiddling profiles that it would be difficult to make sure it was within the sizing for data. If, however, you limit it to one major codec, and use predefined bit\sample rates that can be sized up, you'll be able to tell if all the settings are "legal" or not, as you then have a predefined data-size for both audio and video. If you don't multiplex, you get 2 streams. It takes longer to load the disc, but both streams are cached. Typically, with more motion, I like to non-plex, but with more emphasis on audio, I start leaning toward a TS file. IF you want forward compatibility, select an intermediate codec, with little to no compression, save to a disc image, then burn a disc and file it away. Every 10-15 years, hire an intern to turn their hair white recoding all your video and following the same procedure (unpaid internship time), but make them happy by hiring them as "Labor" on a short job or two and pay them well for standing around or stroking the egos of the "Talent". What can I say, we all work more diligently and creatively when we feel more connected with it, whether we're brooding and trying to communicate the angst of a lost generation, or felling powerful enough to choreograph leaping tall buildings in a single bound. Misery loves company, and powerful loves to be reminded it is by everybody whether it is or isn't.
If you need better clarification...
Lets go back to dvd for a moment. DVD structure is Video TS and Audio TS. TS is Transport Stream. A stream is a BUFFERED movement of data that is transferred quickly in set sized chunks. In DVD there were two transport streams to play back early on. Later, many started muxing those streams and encrypting them, so that upon Decrypting they could be played. Muxing made the encryption easier, as only one stream needed to be encrypted and it was all in the Video TS. Audio TS folders are still written, but there is little data there. In fact, removing this folder when no data is actually present has shown in some cases to do no damage, while in others, it will not play. This is because, it is used as a shell to copy. It initiates the audio stream playback on older players, and on newer players it isn't necessary.
Blu-ray yields similar limitations. You need to match the size of the buffer you are feeding. Most players max out around 35mps from the old sets, and newer players actually pull more like 50mps. If you don't know your target, you'll be out of luck. I've seen blu-rays that don't play on older players being sold at video stores, at Frys, everywhere. I've played them on an old one and found them to be unplayable. Newer formats do not work with older players, but, they note it on the package that you need to meet certain specs, and those specs can usually be found on a sticker on your device so you can see if they match. Remember your Target BitRate and Max Bitrate. The Target should be less than the max for the device you aim for. CS6 won't usually allow anything over 32.7mps, anyway, so setting this in AME even with dynamic linking could cause problems. However, you do have the choice to locate a transcode... ...presents an interesting possibility. I've been trying to get a project done or I'd try this myself:
I'd use the x264 free codec, with some basic options and blu-ray-compatible flag, with --fake-interlaced, to create a transcode and link it into encore. However, encore hasn't liked any of my transcodes that use multiple passes. I'm going to try with a single pass later, and produce an intermediate output for now.

Encore CS6 hangs at slideshow build component of Blu-Ray disc/folder build

Encore stops responding at slideshow build during overall Blu Ray disc or folder build. Project consists of 96 min video timeline via PrPro dynamic link and Japanese & English subtitle tracks, main menu plus 4 sub-menus (2 chapter menus, subtitles and slideshow). 2 menus are motion w/audio.
Slideshow consists of 147 jpegs. After 2nd build failure I reduced all images to uniform 1080 height. No transitions, no manual advance, no pan & zoom. Slideshow fit to audio duration of 2 mp3 assets totaling aprx 7 mins and individual slide durationof 2 secs. Aspect set to 16:9. Encoded size of slideshow 58.42 MB.
Running Win7 SP1 home on i7-3610QM x8 for total 16GB mem w/NVIDIA Quadro 3000M gfx. No prior problems with this configuration for several Blu-Ray and DVD projects. This is first time out with a slideshow component. This particular project built successfully for workcopy Blu-Ray disc, with video timeline and subtitles, but no menus or slideshow.
Help!
Elliott

Thanks Stan,
I am not sure what you mean by your question if I resaved all files. When I resized the images I used Adobe Bridge's Photoshop image processor to bulk re-size the images, saving to a different folder than the originals. I kept the original file names (hmmm, now that I think about it, that may not have been the best choice), then replaced each image asset in Encore's project window, pointing to the file with the same name, but different folder (the preview image in the project window confirmed the reduced image sizes).
But anyway, rather than pulling my hair out risking another hang during the build, I simply made an m2v video files of the jpegs in PrPro (which allowed me to sync some cuts to the music) and placed it in a timeline. No stills now, just an additional timeline.
I'm writing this as the bluray disc build is chugging away. But here's another Encore anomoly, if you have an answer-- before I decided to build the slideshow in PrPro, I tried to save the Encore project with a different filename so I could try your suggestions without corrupting the working project. The save failed twice, well into long process of copying files, returning the error code, "Access Denied". Any thoughts?
-Elliott

Best format to export to Encore for a Blu-Ray disc ?

To All
My question is I shoot with a Canon Vixia HFR21. I am putting together a family vacation we all just had at Disney World. My computer is capable of handling everything very well.I had it built 2 years ago by ADK.I need to know once I have everything set on timeline and all is ready to export, what exact setting in Media Encoder would be best considering I will be bringing it then into Encore to burn on Blu ray disc.
I have Adobe cs6 Premiere and Encore.
Also after I make the Blu ray I will put exact same time line on regular dvd..from what I read for that I think I should export to mpeg-2 ..I'm not sure .
Also for both blue ray and dvd, which is better ipcm or dolby digital audio ?
Thanks a lot,
Ray Perry

Hi Ray,
From Premiere, export via AME and choose the "H.264 Blu-ray" format, and then for preset, get what best matches your footage, for instance maybe 1080i 29.97
You will need to choose a bitrate in line with the length of the program so that you don't exceed the disc capacity. Just search the web for "bitrate calculator" and plug in your details. No need to be in the 30-40 range, something like 25 using H.264 will look fantastic. I believe at "20" you can fit well over 2 hours on a Blu-ray disc. Dolby audio is the default.
For DVD, again Export via AME but choose "MPEG-2 DVD" and proper preset like "NTSC Widescreen", and set bit rate. Don't exceed 7 or 8 on that, and you can use 560/minutes=rate as a rule of thumb and round down slightly. For instance 560/120=4.66 so I encode at 4.5, again using default Dolby Audio.
I'm not keen on sharing the same Encore project for the Blu-ray and DVD, but that's up to you. Note that you can add DVD chapter marks in your Premiere timeline and when you export, those go with. In Encore, use "Import As > Timeline" and grab the audio and video clip at the same time and the chapter marks come along for the ride!
Thanks
Jeff Pulera
Safe Harbor Computers

How do I burn a Blu-Ray disc with menus?

I have a 38 minute project comprised mostly of HD clips (.m2ts, .MP4 and a few .MPG). I try to render the project to Blu-Ray with Premiere Elements 12, it takes approximately an hour to reach 98% with message "Encoding Media", then switches to "Compiling Media" and freezes there (I let it go for 6 hours with no end in sight). Task Manager shows that it is not using any CPU cycles anymore, while it was using up to 96% of the CPU before it reached that point. I've been able to render this project to a DVD, to Folders on my HDD and to AVCHD successfully on a DVD.
For a test, I tried a 1 minute project with the same results. It wasn't until I removed the disc menu that I was able to burn a Blu-Ray disc. I am running project on a PC with Windows 7 Home Premium, 64 bit, an AMD Athlon II x4 635 Processor, 2900 Mhz, 4 cores, 4 logical processors with 4 GB of RAM. I have found a number of references to the 98% completion but no real solutions. Any assistance would be appreciated as I would like to produce a high definition disc with menus...

ATR and jerry9146, thanks for the replies. I am using version 12 of Premiere and, when I attempt to update, it tells me that I have the latest version. I am fairly new to Premiere although I have used other video software before. My motherboard supports up to 16 GB (4 slots) so I could try increasing the memory which would probably speed up the rendering process. I'm not so sure that not having enough memory would prevent it from completing the rendering process but who knows. Task Manager shows CPU usage in the high 90% and shows physical memory in the mid 50% during the rendering process...
My software always finds the media and lets me know if I have the wrong disc in (I had inadvertently inserted a DVD instead). I have tried both H.264 1440x1080i NTSC Dolby and H.264 1920x1080i NTSC Dolby. It does not have a choice for 1080p full HD.
I always cancel out of the Windows popup asking "How do you want to use this disc?" as I assume that Premiere will let the system know. Is that correct?
The movie menu that I chose for this project is a fairly simple one, Faux Widescreen from the General category. It contains 1 main menu and 3 scene menu pages containing a total of 17 scene markers which I inserted myself with Add Marker.
I had already taken out the Stop marker as I had read that it doesn't work for Blu-Ray anyways (and thought that that might have been the culprit). Spacing is good and there is no button overlap.
jerry9146, I have successfully burned an AVCHD file to a DVD thru Premiere and the quality is pretty good. Does the workaround that you suggest produce a Blu-Ray quality file?

What do I need besides my HD camcorder to get a Blu Ray disc

I want a Sony HDR SR12. If I buy this what else do I need to end up with a Blu-Ray disc of my movies?
I guess my question is: Do I need a Blu-Ray burner to get a blu-ray disc or will my regular dVD burner give me the Blu Ray disc?
Can I get Blu Ray burners that connect directly to my camcorder? I thought at the store they had one but cannot find it online.
I know I need the software, an HDTV and a Blu Ray player.
Help. I'm so frustrated.

My previous reply got deleted for referencing a BB competitor (even though I was reccommending AGAINST going to said competitor as their Blu-Ray drive is more expensive than other vendors even after a 20% going-out-of-business sale).
I don't know if there are BR burners that connect directly to your camera. Most likely it will be rather expensive and less flexible than a PC-based solution.
An internal SATA PC-based Blu-Ray drive (for desktops, not laptops) will run you $200-220 or so. Don't pay more than this, at least not for the most common burners on the market at the moment such as the LG GGW-H20L. If you have a laptop you'll need to find an external BR burner, or buy an internal burner and a separate 5.25" USB-to-SATA enclosure (to make it an external drive).
You will get FAR more flexibility with a PC-based burner than with a camera-based unit. That said, editing HD video on a slow PC can be an unpleasant task. It's possible but it'll be a slow process.
Also, in the interim, you can burn a Blu-Ray file structure to a DVD, and nearly all Blu-Ray players will treat it as if it were a Blu-Ray. Since single-layer DVDs only hold 4.7GB and single-layer BR holds 25GB, you will be very limited as to how much video you can fit. (15-20 minutes depending on quality most likely. A bit more if you downscale to 720P.)
*disclaimer* I am not now, nor have I ever been, an employee of Best Buy, Geek Squad, nor of any of their affiliate, parent, or subsidiary companies.

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