How do I eliminate the space above a spry menu bar?

I made a table, set the CellPad and CellSpace to 0, and set
the width to 800 pixels. Then, I inserted an image (with a width of
800 pixels) into the table, and set the V and H of the image to 0,
and aligned the image to the top. Then, I copied a spry menu bar
(with a width of 800 pixels) above the table and pasted it in the
table underneath the image. There is a vertical space of 16 pixels
between the image and the spry menu bar. How do I eliminate this
vertical gap?

The Spry Updater is at:
http://labs.adobe.com/technologies/spry/home.html
If there is a spacing issue it is hard to tell without the
code. By default the Spry menu bar has 0 for margin and padding.
Make sure there is not a <p> tag within the table because the
<p> tag has an inherit padding/margin to it and could be
causing issues. The image and Spry should just be within the
<td> </td> without any <p> tags inside.

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How do I remove the gap above my Spry Menu bar?

Hi Folks,
I have an extensive web site which I built over many years and using different programs but have now jettisoned all of thse and work exclusively with Dreamweaver to maintain and improve it myself. To date I have always had to edit each item on each page separately then upload everything to keep my now vast website updated.
I read that if I made an SSi file for my navigation menu then I do not need to edit it on each separate page of my site so long as I load the pages of my site as .shtml files and insert a Server-Side Includes line in the code of my web pages. All great in theory BUT for some reason which is confounding me there is a gap appearing at the top of the page which is not there on the pages which are not .shtml and have my sprymenu embedded in the code.
Rather than attach long code here, it might be easier to see the problem on my live pages. So please go to any page of www.dominicnatoli.com to see how the site looks with the spry menu in each page and then go to say www.dominicnatoli.com/2011.shtml to see one of the newly loaded pages which displays the menu from the file www.dominicnatoli.com/includes/navmenu.shtml. interestingly enough if I open the navmenu.shtml alone it displays at the top of the page but whenever I open it as embedded code on my .shtml content pages it does not display at the top of the page.
I have not completely uploaded all the .shtml files of the site as I have encountered this issue and if I cannot resolve it I will ababndon this course of action and search for another solution so if you click on some of the menu items and it takes you to a dead end that is not in and of itself the problem as not all the .shtml files have been loaded to the server yet.
I have trawled through the css and code to the best of my "limited" ability and am frustrated as I cannot find my error. There ar epossibly hundreds of errors in the pages as this site has been created using many different programs over decades and one of my reason for trying to do this new menu management is part of my overhaul stragtegy which has stumbled already at the first step. LOL I know we say if it ain't broke don't fix it, but I need to sort out a better way of editin the navigation menu universally rather than having to write code into each menu on each page in order for the nav bar to be consistent wite wide.
I would really be grateful if one of you gurus can tell me where I am going wrong so I can replicate the solution for the remained of my pages. I am not sure if the problem is in teh navmenu.shtml page and its associated css or in the other shtml page with its much larger css. Thanks for any help you can give me to sort his out.
I am working on Dreamweaver CC and CS6 ( the latter has an Insert Server Side Includes extension which does not work in CC so I tend to use CC for the main updates and CS6 for the SSI stuff.)
Please let me know if you need any other information or stuff from me. Thanks a lot and
All the best
Dominic

OK Nancy, so I moved the code as you suggested, and it has gone back to showing the nav menu formatted BUT still with a gap at the top.
Here is the new code for the page. BTW it only has 463 lines
<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">
<html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"/>
<meta name="Generator" content="DreamweaverCS5.5"/>
<title>Dominic Natoli 1996 to 1998 Schedule</title>
<link rel="shortcut icon" href="images/favicon.ico" />
<meta name="keywords" content="Mario Lanza, Mario Lanza Story, Joshua, Handel, St. John Passion, Melbourne Symphony Orchestra, Ismaele, Nabucco, Don Josè, Carmen, Australian Pops Orchestra, Beethoven, 9th Symphony, Sydney Opera House, Tamino, Adelaide Symphony Orchestra, Melbourne Concert Hall, Ernesto, Don Pasquale, Donizetti, Nemorino, L'Elisir d'amore, Dorset Opera, Messiah, Handel, Adelaide Symphony, Queen Elizabeth Hall, English National Opera, Don Josè, Strike up the Band, Gershwin, Rusalka, Chandos, South Australian State Opera, Opera Queensland, Australian Pops Orchestra, Melbourne Concert Hall, Ernesto, Don Pasquale, Donizetti, Nemorino, L'Elisir d'amore, Dorset Opera, Messiah, Handel, Adelaide Symphony, Queen Elizabeth Hall, English National Opera, Don Josè, Strike up the Band, Gershwin, Rusalka, Chandos, South Australian State Opera, Opera Queensland, Australian Pops Orchestra"/>
<meta name="description" content="Dominic Natoli Schedule 1996 - 1998"/>
<meta name="author" content="Alex Weston"/>
<meta name="copyright" content="© All rights reserved"/>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Language" content="en-gb"/>
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<style type="text/css">
body {margin: 0px; padding: 0px;}
a:link {color: #6f0070;}
a:visited {color: #009c9c;}
a:hover {color: #6f0070;}
a:active {color: #6f0070;}
</style>
<link href="../Spry-UI-1.7/css/Menu/basic/SpryMenuBasic.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" />
<script src="../Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryDOMUtils.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<script src="../Spry-UI-1.7/includes/SpryDOMEffects.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
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padding-top: 0px;
padding-right: 0;
padding-bottom: 10px;
padding-left: 0;
clear: both;
}#MenuBar_2 {
          background-color: #0036Cc;
          font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
          font-weight: normal;
          font-size: 12px;
          font-style: normal;
          padding-top: 0;
          padding-right: 0;
          padding-left: 0;
          padding-bottom: 0;
          border-color: #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff;
          border-width: 0px;
          border-style: none none none none;
          top: 0px;
.MenuBar br {           display:none;
.MenuBar_2LeftShrink {
          float: left;          width: 80px;
.MenuBar_2RightShrink {
          float: right; /* shrink to content, as well as float the MenuBar */
          width: 80px;
.MenuBar_2FixedLeft {
          float: left;
          width: 800px;
.MenuBar_2FixedCentered {
          float: none;
          width: 800px;
          margin-left: auto;
          margin-right: auto;
.MenuBar_2FixedCentered br {
          clear:both;
          display:block;
.MenuBar_2FixedCentered .SubMenu br {
          display:none;
.MenuBar_2Fullwidth {
          float: left;
          width: 800px;
          display: block;
/* Top level menubar items - these actually apply to all items, and get overridden for 1st or successive level submenus */
#MenuBar_2 .MenuItemContainer {
          padding: 0px 0px 0px 0px;
          margin: 0;           /* Zero out margin on the item containers. The MenuItem is the active hover area.
                                        For most items, we have to do top or bottom padding or borders only on the MenuItem
                                        or a child so we keep the entire submenu tiled with items.
                                        Setting this to 0 avoids "dead spots" for hovering. */
#MenuBar_2 .MenuItem {
          padding: 0px 15px 0px 0px;
          background-color:#0036CC;
          border-width:1px;
          border-color: #FFFFFF;
          border-style: none solid none solid;
#MenuBar_2 .MenuItemFirst {
          border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar_2 .MenuItemLast {
          border-style: none solid none none;
#MenuBar_2 .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
          text-align:center;
          line-height:1.4em;
          color:#ffffff;
          background-color:#0036cc;
          padding: 0px 30px 6px 3px;
          width: 40px;
          width:38px;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar_2 .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
          width:44px; /* Equivalent to min-width in modern browsers */
/* First level submenu items */
#MenuBar_2 .SubMenu .MenuItem {
          font-family: "Times New Roman", Times, serif;
          font-weight: normal;
          font-size: 12px;
          font-style: normal;
          background-color:#9999CC;
          padding:0px 22px 0px 10px;
          border-width:1px;
          border-color: #FFFFFF;
          /* Border styles are overriden by first and last items */
          border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar_2 .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst {
          border-style: solid solid none solid;
#MenuBar_2 .SubMenu .MenuItemFirst .MenuItemLabel{
          padding-top: 6px;
#MenuBar_2 .SubMenu .MenuItemLast {
          border-style: solid solid solid solid;
#MenuBar_2 .SubMenu .MenuItemLast .MenuItemLabel{
          padding-bottom: 6px;
#MenuBar_2 .SubMenu .MenuItem .MenuItemLabel{
          text-align:left;
          line-height:1em;
          background-color:#9999CC;
          color:#ffffff;
          padding: 6px 10px 6px 5px;
          width: 30px;
          width:auto;
/* Hover states for containers, items and labels */
#MenuBar_2 .MenuItemHover {
          background-color: #9999CC;
          border-color: #FFFFFF;
#MenuBar_2 .MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
          background-color: #9999CC; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
          color: #FFFFFF;
#MenuBar_2 .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
          background-color: #9999cc;
          color: #FFFFFF;
#MenuBar_2 .SubMenu .MenuItemHover {
          background-color: #0036cc;
          border-color: #FFFFFF;
#MenuBar_2 .SubMenu .MenuItemHover .MenuItemLabel{
          background-color: #0036cc;
          color: #FFFFFF;
/* Submenu properties -- First level of submenus */
#MenuBar_2 .SubMenuVisible {
          background-color: #9999CC;
          min-width:auto; /* This keeps the menu from being skinnier than the parent MenuItemContainer - nice to have but not available on ie6 */
          border-color: #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff #ffffff;
          border-width:0px;
          border-style: none none none none;
#MenuBar_2.MenuBar .SubMenuVisible {/* For Horizontal menubar only */
          top: 100%;          /* 100% is at the bottom of parent menuItemContainer */
          left:0px; /* 'left' may need tuning depending upon borders or padding applied to menubar MenuItemContainer or MenuItem,
                                                  and your personal taste.
                                                  0px will left align the dropdown with the content area of the MenuItemContainer. Assuming you keep the margins 0
                                                  on MenuItemContainer and MenuItem on the parent
                                                  menubar, making this equal the sum of the MenuItemContainer MenuItem padding-left will align
                                                  the dropdown with the left of the menu item label.*/
          z-index:10;
#MenuBar_2.MenuBarVertical .SubMenuVisible {
          top: 0px;
          left:100%;
          min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse */
/* Submenu properties -- Second level submenu and beyond - these are visible descendents of .MenuLevel1 */
#MenuBar_2 .MenuLevel1 .SubMenuVisible {
          background-color: #9999CC;
          min-width:0px; /* Do not neeed to match width to parent MenuItemContainer - items will prevent total collapse*/
          top: 0px;          /* If desired, you can move this down a smidge to separate top item''s submenu from menubar -
                                        that is really only needed for submenu on first item of MenuLevel1, or you can make it negative to make submenu more
                                        vertically 'centered' on its invoking item */
          left:100%; /* If you want to shift the submenu left to partially cover its invoking item, you can add a margin-left with a
                                        negative value to this rule. Alternatively, if you use fixed-width items, you can change this left value
                                        to use px or ems to get the offset you want. */
/* IE6 rules - you can delete these if you do not want to support IE6 */
/* A note about multiple classes in IE6.
* Some of the rules above use multiple class names on an element for selection, such as "hover" (MenuItemHover) and "has a subMenu" (MenuItemWithSubMenu),
* giving the selector '.MenuItemWithSubMenu.MenuItemHover'.
* Unfortunately IE6 does not support using mutiple classnames in a selector for an element. For a selector such as '.foo.bar.baz', IE6 ignores
* all but the final classname (here, '.baz'), and sets the specificity accordingly, counting just one of those classs as significant. To get around this
* problem, we use the plugin in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js to generate compound classnames for IE6, such as 'MenuItemWithSubMenuHover'.
* Since there are a lot of these needed, the plugin does not generate the extra classes for modern browsers, and we use the CSS2 style mutltiple class
* syntax for that. Since IE6 both applies rules where
* it should not, and gets the specificity wrong too, we have to order rules carefully, so the rule misapplied in IE6 can be overridden.
* So, we put the multiple class rule first. IE6 will mistakenly apply this rule. We follow this with the single-class rule that it would
* mistakenly override, making sure the misinterpreted IE6 specificity is the same as the single-class selector, so the latter wins.
* We then create a copy of the multiple class rule, adding a '.SpryIsIE6' class as context, and making sure the specificity for
* the selector is high enough to beat the single-class rule in the "both classes match" case. We place the IE6 rule at the end of the
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* If you decide you do not need IE6 support, you can get rid of these, as well as the inclusion of the SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js script.
* The 'SpryIsIE6' class is placed on the HTML element by the script in SpryMenuBarIEWorkaroundsPlugin.js if the browser is Internet Explorer 6. This avoids the necessity of IE conditional comments for these rules.
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar_2 .MenuBarView .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel /* IE6 selector */{
          background-color: #0036CC; /* consider exposing this prop separately*/
          color: #FFFFFF;
.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar_2 .MenuBarView .SubMenu .MenuItemWithSubMenuHover .MenuItemLabel/* IE6 selector */{
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.SpryIsIE6 #MenuBar_2 .SubMenu .SubMenu /* IE6 selector */{
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<span class="Normal-P3"><br /><span class="Normal-P3"><span class="Normal-C6">His first engagement was in Cork, Ireland for Opera South as <a name="josedebut"></a></span><span class="Normal-C7"><a href="donjose.shtml" style="color:#000000;">Don Josè</a></span><span class="Normal-C10"> </span><span class="Normal-C6">in their production
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I having a bit of a problem trying to remove a little white space after my Spry Menu bar, when I set it to 8.6em theres a little white space, when I set the width to 9.7 it goes too far, I changed it to 137 pixels, however in Firefox and IE, it messes up the layout.
Also what do you do if there a different browsers, where some layouts are out of place, do you need to detect the browser with JS?

The website is not live yet, everything is stored locally so heres the code: -
HTML: -
<!DOCTYPE HTML>
<html>
<head>
<meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="website_style.css" />
<title>My Website</title>
<script src="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBar.js" type="text/javascript"></script>
<link href="SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css" rel="stylesheet" type="text/css">
</head>
<body>
<div id="wrapper">
<div id="banner"></div>
<div id="menu">
    <ul id="MenuBar1" class="MenuBarHorizontal">
      <li><a href="#">Home</a>      </li>
      <li><a href="#">Personal Profile</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Education</a>      </li>
      <li><a href="#">Work Experience</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Skills</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Additional Info.</a></li>
      <li><a href="#">Referees</a></li>
    </ul>
</div>
</div>
<script type="text/javascript">
var MenuBar1 = new Spry.Widget.MenuBar("MenuBar1", {imgDown:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif", imgRight:"SpryAssets/SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif"});
</script>
</body>
</html>
CSS: -
@charset "utf-8";
/* CSS Document */
body{
    background-size:auto;
    background-repeat:no-repeat;
    background-color:#967255;
    padding: 5px;
#wrapper {
    width:968px;
    background: #FFF;
    padding-left:0px;
    padding-right:0px;
    overflow:hidden;
    height: auto;
    border-top-left-radius:20px;
    border-top-right-radius:20px;
    margin:0 auto;
#wrapper #banner {
    background-image:url(banner.gif);
    height: 100px;
    width: 968px;
    margin-left: auto;
Spry Menu CSS: -
@charset "UTF-8";
/* SpryMenuBarHorizontal.css - version 0.6 - Spry Pre-Release 1.6.1 */
/* Copyright (c) 2006. Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. */
LAYOUT INFORMATION: describes box model, positioning, z-order
/* The outermost container of the Menu Bar, an auto width box with no margin or padding */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    cursor: default;
    width: auto;
    font-family: abeatbyKai;
    height: auto;
    background-image: url(../paper.gif);
/* Set the active Menu Bar with this class, currently setting z-index to accomodate IE rendering bug: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/meuk/IE-zindexbug.html */
ul.MenuBarActive
    z-index: 1000;
/* Menu item containers, position children relative to this container and are a fixed width */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal li
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    position: relative;
    text-align: left;
    cursor: pointer;
    width: 8.68em;
    float: left;
    height: 3em;
    margin-top: 0;
    margin-right: 0;
    margin-bottom: 0em;
    margin-left: 0;
    padding-top: 0;
    padding-right: 0em;
    padding-bottom: 0;
    padding-left: 0px;
/* Submenus should appear below their parent (top: 0) with a higher z-index, but they are initially off the left side of the screen (-1000em) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
    list-style-type: none;
    font-size: 100%;
    z-index: 1020;
    cursor: default;
    width: 8.2em;
    position: absolute;
    left: -1000em;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to auto so it comes onto the screen below its parent menu item */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
/* Menu item containers are same fixed width as parent */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul li
    width: 8.2em;
/* Submenus should appear slightly overlapping to the right (95%) and up (-5%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul ul
    position: absolute;
    margin: -5% 0 0 95%;
/* Submenu that is showing with class designation MenuBarSubmenuVisible, we set left to 0 so it comes onto the screen */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible ul.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    left: auto;
    top: 0;
DESIGN INFORMATION: describes color scheme, borders, fonts
/* Submenu containers have borders on all sides */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul
    border: 1px solid #CCC;
/* Menu items are a light gray block with padding and no text decoration */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a
    display: block;
    cursor: pointer;
    background-color: #EEE;
    color: #333;
    text-decoration: none;
    background-image: url(../paper.gif);
    padding-top: 0.5em;
    padding-right: 0.75em;
    padding-bottom: 1.5em;
    padding-left: 0.75em;
/* Menu items that have mouse over or focus have a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:hover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a:focus
    background-color: #33C;
    color: #FFF;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus are set to MenuBarItemHover with a blue background and white text */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover, ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarSubmenuVisible
    background-color: #33C;
    color: #FFF;
SUBMENU INDICATION: styles if there is a submenu under a given menu item
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDown.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
/* Menu items that have a submenu have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenu and are set to use a background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenu
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRight.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarDownHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
/* Menu items that are open with submenus have the class designation MenuBarItemSubmenuHover and are set to use a "hover" background image positioned on the far left (95%) and centered vertically (50%) */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal ul a.MenuBarItemSubmenuHover
    background-image: url(SpryMenuBarRightHover.gif);
    background-repeat: no-repeat;
    background-position: 95% 50%;
BROWSER HACKS: the hacks below should not be changed unless you are an expert
/* HACK FOR IE: to make sure the sub menus show above form controls, we underlay each submenu with an iframe */
ul.MenuBarHorizontal iframe
    position: absolute;
    z-index: 1010;
    filter:alpha(opacity:0.1);
/* HACK FOR IE: to stabilize appearance of menu items; the slash in float is to keep IE 5.0 from parsing */
@media screen, projection
    ul.MenuBarHorizontal li.MenuBarItemIE
        display: inline;
        f\loat: left;
        background: #FFF;

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