How to import 6602's counter output to PFI3 of the 6534 board?

Dear friends,
I have the following problem:
I am trying to import the output of one of the counters of the 6602 board (counter 4) to
the REQ2 (PFI3) line of the 6543 board (please see the VI attached). But I do
not see any signal on the PFI3 line though the VI runs without errors.
The situation is the same if I connect output of the counter to the PFI3 directly in the "Connect Terminals" VI instead of connecting it via PXI_Trig4 line.
I need your help to understand why is it so and how can I accomplish the
"import" task.
Thanks in advance!
Attachments:
counterImport.vi ‏28 KB

Hi Andrew,
You are absolutely right - there should be PFI20 instead of PFI26.
It works now. Thank you!
.....I hope you can give some ideas with regard to the following problem:
In a program I used four 6602's counters (counters 0-3) to generate single trigger
pulses on the backplane of the PXI.
It worked fine.
Now I want to incorporate the fifth counter into the program (counter 4) to
generate a finite pulse sequence on the PFI3 line of the 6534 board.
And I can not do this.
Code example is in the VI attached.
When I try to run this VI it gives error:
Error -89137 occurred at DAQmx Connect Terminals.vi:4
Possible reason(s):
Specified route cannot be satisfied, because it requires resources that are
currently in use by another route.
Source Device: TimingIO
Source Terminal: PFI36
Destination Device: TimingIO
Destination Terminal: PXI_Trig0
Required Resources in Use by
Source Device: TimingIO
Source Terminal: PFI20
Destination Device: TimingIO
Destination Terminal: PXI_Trig4
I do not understand why it happens and how to correct this....
Thanks!
Attachments:
counterImport 2.vi ‏79 KB

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