How to set up 6th Generation AirPort Extreme to cable modem as a wireless router and then connect my 3rd Generation Time Capsule to AirPort Extreme as a wireless extender?

What is the best way to set up my 6th Generation AirPort Extreme (A1521) to my cable modem as a wireless router and then connect my 3rd Generation Time Capsule (A1355) to my AirPort Extreme as a wireless extender? I live in a small 1 story house and I currently have the Airport Extreme connected to my cable modem in the living room and the Time Capsule plugged into the wall in my bedroom. I am able to wirelessly connect to the internet using the AirPort Extreme as my router and I can also do wireless back ups to my Time Capsule. My problem is that my connection seems to be really slow! My 1TB Time Capsule back up is only half way complete and it has been 3 days! My computer has been backing up all day and night for almost 72 hours and its still not even 75% complete. I have backed up to this Time Capsule in the past and it never took this long. I am thinking that when I set up my AirPort Extreme and Time Capsule using AirPort Utility I must have set it up incorrectly or something.
How do I set up my Airport Extreme and Time Capsule for the fastest possible internet speed and back up speed?
Thank you,

AirPort Utility 5.6 works with AirPort Extreme 802.11g base stations.
It works with N version airports.
It will also show details of the AC model but cannot be used for the setup.. mostly.
I purposely got the new 6th Gen Airport Extreme so my internet connection would be a lot faster!
Your network will be much faster when you have AC client directly connected to the AE. Older client will go no faster.. but what is worse.. extend wireless is mixing new and old wireless standards.. guess what one wins.. OLD.. So when you extend wireless.. you have no improvement whatsoever. This whole post is about extending wireless.. so you cannot extend to older equipment and do any better.. maybe slightly better signal although from your comments that isn't happening either.
I would rather not have to use an ethernet at all with the TC and I don't know EOP adapters are!
If you do not use ethernet then you are going to be forced to accept slow speed.
EOP (ethernet over power). Also called homeplug in the US.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HomePlug
Provides a method of networking over power cabling that already exists in your house.
So what your saying is for the fastest internet speed and back up speed possible I should keep my Airport Extreme plugged into my Modem and keep my TC set up as a wireless extender? Then when I want to do back ups I should plug an ethernet cable from my TC to my MacBook Pro?
To spell this out.
A wireless link to an extended device will go very slowly.. if it is not direct.
So lets say you have a laptop sitting in the lounge.. Your connection goes.. Laptop- - - - - AE- - - - -TC.
That means two wireless links.. wireless has this nasty half duplex and single channel nature.. it can send or receive (Tx or Rx) but not at the same time.
Ethernet by contrast does both at once. It is full duplex.
Wireless can talk to one client at a time.. so if there are multiple items using wireless lets say 4 devices.. then your computer gets a 25% time slice. Since wireless cannot handle multiple simultaneous connections.
Ethernet by contrast can connect multiple computers to multiple destinations at the same time.. all transmitting and receiving at full speed.
When you put all this together.. there are a couple of rules for fast connection.
1. Use ethernet at all times. Where you cannot use ethernet use anything but wireless.. eg EOP (homeplug) at least to try and get rid of wireless.
2. Where you must use wireless use it sparingly and make sure it is never more than one hop.. ie never have an extend wireless (repeater is more usual term). Repeater will cause instant slowdown of 50% and maybe up to 75% just because it is so inefficient.
3. Fastest wireless is 5ghz but it has very short range.. you need to be up close and personal to get it working.
Apple routers however unless you do manual setup I suggest are set to connect to best signal strength not best speed. It will therefore use 2.4ghz at 25% less speed than 5ghz because it is 1db better signal.. this madness means you need to setup manually for the best setup.

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I'm not sure if this is the right place and I'm posting this question in other Discussion groups as well. If this isn't the right place, please let me know where I should post this.
I just purchased a Time Capsule. I've got an old (cone shaped) Airport Extreme and two Airport Expressses (to extend the range of my wireless network).
I've also got a DSL modem which is connected to an old SMC Wireless router. Right now the Airport Extreme is connected (in bridge mode) to the SMC Wireless router and the Expresses are "connected" to the Extreme. There's also a printer connected to the Express.
Everything works (more or less) fine as things are (there are some issues with two laptops trying to use the Extreme/Express network "knocking each other off, but that's not what I'm concerned with now).
I'm wondering whether I should replace the Airport Extreme portion of things with the Time Capsule, or if I should just connect the Time Capsule to the SCM Wireless router (it has four or five ethernet out ports) and set it up to work with the Extreme/Express network some how.
Has anyone ever tried that kind of thing or have any input?
Thanks!

Thanks for the input! I wouldn't mind doing away with the SMC part of things, but there are some "legacy" reasons why I keep it (plus it does have a more ethernet ports than either the Extreme or TC).
As for this:
"Also, a possible reason of why there is an issue with the two laptops connecting to the network, is that maybe they are trying to be assigned the same IP address, and so therefore are cutting each other off when they connect to the network."
I'd worried about that, but . . . I've got an old Pismo that can talk to the Extreme at the same time as my MacBook and an Apple TV and two iPhones and a wireless webcam that all talk to the Extreme while the MacBook does. It's only the MacBook and MacBook Pro that have problems with each other. I've check the MAC address (or whatever) of them and seen they're different. For what it's worth, the MacBook started life as a clone of the MacBook Pro.

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I am wanting to set up a network for my business and was hoping if someone could tell me how to do this and if it will indeed work. Or if you have any better ideas.
I want to transfer all music to Airport Time Capsule. I want to plug in the aiport express to my sound system. I want to access music through the ipad off the timecapsule to play it without downlaoding it on the ipad.
We currently use Icloud, but there is too much music and too many devices accessing for it to work effectively. I am running a dance studio so we need more music than what could ever be stored on an ipad/ipod.
As an extention to this, can we use multiple Airport expresses plugged into mutiple sound systems to simultaneously access different music from the same time capsule?
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The answer is not if you use iTunes.
The TC is NOT an iTunes server.. it is not a media device at all. It is a backup location for Time Machine.
You need a computer in the network which stores the iTunes library and you can then play it via the ipad.
A mini with a large USB drive plugged in will work fine.. it doesn't need to be new.. a couple of years old mini will work just as well.
As an extention to this, can we use multiple Airport expresses plugged into mutiple sound systems to simultaneously access different music from the same time capsule?
I am not sure.. there will be network limitations to this.
Look up how to use itunes in a network.
http://support.apple.com/kb/ht4620
You would do better perhaps posting the question in iTunes section.. if as I guess you are actually using iTunes.

Time Capsule or Airport Extreme

I have a 1st generation Time Capsule that I use as the main wireless access point in my house. All devices connect to it: laptops, iPads, iPods, iPhones, televisions, playstations, etc. I also have gigabit switch plugged into the Time Capsule, and I run some of the wired devices from it. Among the wired devices is a docking station that I use for home office work--so I have an ethernet cable running from the switch to the docking station in the office. Wireless range of the TC does not quite get to the upper floor of my house as well as I would like, so I need to extend my network. I was going to get an Airport Extreme for this. However, I was wondering a couple things:
1. Is the Extreme overkill for what I am trying to do? Will I even realize very much of the potential of the Extreme, given that the TC is a 1st Gen? In other words, is the performance of the Extreme dependent in any way on the TC?
2. Would it make any sense to use the Airport Extreme as the main wireless router and use the TC to extend the network. Would this cause any issues with the backups?
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cannonfish9212 wrote:
I have a 1st generation Time Capsule
That is very old and well worth considering replacement.
1. Is the Extreme overkill for what I am trying to do? Will I even realize very much of the potential of the Extreme, given that the TC is a 1st Gen? In other words, is the performance of the Extreme dependent in any way on the TC?
When you say extend do you mean by wireless or ethernet? Extending by wireless will certainly drag the speed down to the speed of the TC.. so that is highly undesirable. If you do the connection by ethernet then it is fine.
You get the full potential of the wireless on the AE assuming you have modern products to use it. Mostly of course it will be no faster as 2.4ghz is still just as limited as ever.
2. Would it make any sense to use the Airport Extreme as the main wireless router and use the TC to extend the network. Would this cause any issues with the backups?
Same thing applies.. backups over a wireless bridge will be very poor. That would be a setup to be avoided.
As long as you run ethernet then it doesn't matter which goes where.
You might consider buying a Gen4 TC second hand or from the refurbished shop if you do want to use wireless extend.. then you will still have a TC as the main wireless router.. with far superior wireless to the Gen1.. but not AC .. for which you probably have no use yet anyway. And can use the old Gen1 as a wireless extender to that.

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A Gen1 TC will be using marvel wireless chip and your 2008 and 2010 Macbook will use atheros and/or broadcom cards.. Just open your system profiler and look for info on the airport. We find the mixture of wireless chipsets especially older draft N and later N products can give very varied results.
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Do a test uploading and downloading a file to the TC to see if the LAN speed is better than internet speed.
In reality I think you are doing especially well.. we see loads of people complaining about slow internet here who are getting less than 10% of the speed they get direct when routed through the TC. And on most occasions the limit in speed is not really going to affect what you do, as the real links to the internet are not that fast.

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mickair wrote:
I have been experiencing some networking problems
Welcome to Apple's discussion groups.
I have the latest Time Capsule ("TC"), an old Airport Extreme Base Station ("AEBS") bought in 2007 and 2 Airport Expresses, one bought in 3 months ago ("AE-Alpha") and the other bought back in 2007 ("AE-Beta"). All of them have been updated with the latest firmware.
Based on those dates, the AirPort Extreme is probably flat (as opposed to dome-shaped), making it 802.11n-capable. The Newer AirPort Express is probably an 802.11n-capable model A1264, while the older one is probably a model A1084 or A1088.
I use {the TC's} DHCP function ... to avoid unauthorized use.
This a discussion for another thread, but that's not what DHCP is for.
The wireless setting for it is to participate as WDS Main, but after reading various posts, it seems WDS is a bad idea
With that older AirPort Express you're stuck with WDS unless you decide to replace it with a newer model.
The AEBS is currently setup as being a WDS Relay at the moment
Why a relay? That's only needed if there's another base station "beyond" it that is configured to depend on it.
Since the AEBS is connected to the TC via Ethernet, you should probably configure it as a "roaming network":
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2273124
{The AE-Alpha} connects fine as WDS remote at the moment
I don't have any experience with mixed WDS and non-WDS networks, but since it's 802.11n-capable, you may be able to configure it to "extend" the network of the TC rather than as WDS. Look for a setting on the TC to "Allow this network to be extended".
Physical location:
AEBS in one end, TC and AE-Alpha in the middle while AE-Beta on the other end.
A device such as "AE-Beta" that's supposed to extend a network shouldn't be "at the end" but should be half way between the central base station and the clients that need an extended network.

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The info that I have on file indicates that only the WRT-54G versions 4 and under were compatible, so that would be one bridge to cross.
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The first Express drops the bandwidth (and speed) on the entire network in half and the second halves everything again. So, the result, in effect would be a "g" wireless network running at 25% speed. Few users would consider installing this type of network.
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I'm currently using a fairly old Belkin wireless router and a LaCie NAS. I think both of them are heading towards end-of-life, as I now have to reboot the router daily and recently had to poke the NAS in the eye as well.
I've decided I may as well stop messing about and shell out a little extra to buy a decent Apple product as a replacement, but I'm trying to decide between an Airport Extreme, whilst trying to get a little longer out of my LaCie drive, or going one step further and buying a Time Capsule. Obviously with the latter I can use the LaCie via USB to extend the capacity until such time as it finally keels over.
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To further complicate the picture, I'm thinking of changing ISP which will entail moving my network hub out of the study, as the broadband will be coming into a different part of the building. Can I use an Airport Express (2005 model, I think) to extend the network and hook up the printers in the study with either the Extreme or TC? yes

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The existing wireless router is my connection to the Internet and I would like to keep it that way. I really want the TC to fuction as an external Hard Drive/Server, Backup Disc! The TC is where all my Music and Photos are located together with my Backups!
I have tried different configurations and I get it to work for a wile, but after a few minutes it will disappear from my Air Port Utility, a rescan will not bring it back, but if I unplug and then plug it back in it will reappear. However if the TC shows in Air Port Utility or not the TC still shows up on my Desktop.
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Ethernet Cable: Connected to the ETHERNET PORT
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Wireless Mode: OFF
Connect Using: ETHERNET
Internet Tab: Internet Connection
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Connection Sharing: OFF (BRIDGE MODE)
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I am Running OS 10.5.8 on a PowerBook G4.
Below you will see the Log (IP Address, AirPort ID, Eternet ID, Subnet Mask, Router Address, DNS Server Info has been removed).
I had the TC was originally set-up connected to a DLS Modem, all worked fine Backups over TM all was ok, but then the Modem died. (I upgraded to a Wireless Router). I did have it set up, but I nolonger know the settings, I wanted to do a backup with TM, which had not been done for a long time (6 months)
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Log:
Nov 21 08:23:26
Severity:5
Initialized (firmware 7.6.1).
Nov 21 08:23:31
Severity:3
No Address for NTP server time.apple.com.
Nov 21 08:23:31
Severity:5
Internet configuration leased [IPv4] -- host <0> gateway <> dns <> wins <> lease <1814400> domain <Speedport_W723_V_Typ
Nov 21 08:23:33
Severity:5
Internet configuration leased [IPv4] -- host <> gateway <> dns <> wins <> lease <1814400> domain <Speedport_W723_V_Typ
Nov 21 08:23:46
Severity:3
No Address for NTP server time.apple.com.
Nov 21 08:24:01
Severity:5
Clock synchronized to network time server time.apple.com (adjusted +7 seconds).
Nov 21 08:28:05
Severity:5
Connection accepted from [%bridge0]:49362.
Nov 21 08:28:06
Severity:5
Connection accepted from [%bridge0]:49363.
Nov 21 08:28:06
Severity:5
Connection accepted from [%bridge0]:49364.
Nov 21 09:24:53
Severity:5
Initialized (firmware 7.6.1).
Nov 21 09:24:57
Severity:3
No Address for NTP server time.apple.com.
Nov 21 09:24:59
Severity:5
Internet configuration leased [IPv4] -- host <> gateway <> dns <> wins <> lease <1814400> domain <Speedport_W723_V_Typ
Nov 21 09:25:00
Severity:5
Internet configuration leased [IPv4] -- host <> gateway <> dns <> wins <> lease <1814400> domain <Speedport_W723_V_Typ
Nov 21 09:25:02
Severity:5
Connection accepted from [%bridge0]:49884.
Nov 21 09:25:03
Severity:5
Connection accepted from [%bridge0]:49885.
Nov 21 09:25:03
Severity:5
Connection accepted from [%bridge0]:49886.
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Severity:3
No Address for NTP server time.apple.com.
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Severity:5
Clock synchronized to network time server time.apple.com (adjusted +7 seconds).

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How do I connect to Time Capsule from a Windows 8.1 machine which is on a Windows domain. I have been able to connect from a Windows 7 machine on a Windows domain to a Time Capsule. Airport utility is not displaying the Time Capsule Win8.1 machine.
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Firstly how are you connecting to the TC.. wireless or ethernet?
Please open a command window and ping it.. ping by name and by IP address.
If ping succeeds at least by IP it should work.
In windows explorer type
\\10.0.1.1 (or whatever the TC ip is.. that is the default).
Having the airport utility for windows loaded can help the process. As it loads bonjour for windows.
7.6.4 firmware on the TC is useless. It works better on 7.6.1
If the ping does not succeed by either name or IP address yet you have internet through the TC, then your network is setup wrongly. You are have firewalls blocking local IP. Take down all the firewalls.

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i did follow "From the Apple menu, choose System Preferences. Choose View > Time Machine. Set Time Machine to On if it is off "
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