I want to use Boot Camp to play PC games on my PowerMac G5. Any Advice?
I'm about to install Leopard & use Boot Camp for the first time to make a PC partition which will be used almost exclusively for PC gaming (mostly WWII shooters). I need some advice about how to go about maximizing my gaming experience. First, how big should the partition be? 25GB? 50GB? My home drive has a capacity of about 230 GB. What PC OS should I use? Vista or XP? What kind of video card should I have?
I've got a Power Mac G5 with 2 x 3 Ghz quad core Intel Xeon, 4GB 667 Mhz DDR2 F8-DIMM and a ATY Radeon X1900 XT 512MB video card.
Thanks
First, how big should the partition be? 25GB? 50GB? My home drive has a capacity of about 230 GB.
You mentioned that you will use your computer exclusively for Windows gaming and therefor I would recommend a partition at least to be at 70GB and 100GB if you can afford the space. Depending on the amount of games and disk space they use, you will need make your call.
What PC OS should I use? Vista or XP?
I am assuming that you would to use ALL of your 4GB Ram. If you use XP then you will only be able to use 2GB - 3GB RAM. You will need Windows Vista 64BIT Home Premium installed on your Mac Pro to take advantage of all 4GB.
What kind of video card should I have?
You already have the ATI Radeon X1900 XT 512MB Video Card installed and that should work well.
I've got a Power Mac G5 with 2 x 3 Ghz quad core Intel Xeon
Are you sure you have a Power Mac G5 as you wrote in your post? I think you meant *Mac Pro*. At least I hope that is what you meant since if you meant the former then Windows will not run on your G5.
Axel F.
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HT1461 Can one use boot camp to play computer games normally only found for PCs?
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Yes. There are several ways to run Windows on the Mac:
Windows on Intel Macs
There are presently several alternatives for running Windows on Intel Macs.
1. Install the Apple Boot Camp software. Purchase Windows
XP w/Service Pak2, Vista, or Windows 7. For Boot Camp
4.0 and above you can only use Windows 7 or later. Follow
instructions in the Boot Camp documentation on
installation of Boot Camp, creating Driver CD, and
installing Windows. Boot Camp enables you to boot the
computer into OS X or Windows.
2. Parallels Desktop for Mac and Windows XP, Vista Business,
Vista Ultimate, or Windows 7. Parallels is software
virtualization that enables running Windows concurrently
with OS X.
3. VM Fusion and Windows XP, Vista Business, Vista Ultimate,
or Windows 7. VM Fusion is software virtualization that
enables running Windows concurrently with OS X.
4. CrossOver which enables running many Windows
applications without having to install Windows. The
Windows applications can run concurrently with OS X.
5. VirtualBox is an Open Source freeware virtual machine such
as VM Fusion and Parallels that was developed by Solaris.
It is not as fully developed for the Mac as Parallels and VM
Fusion.
Note that VirtualBox, Parallels, and VM Fusion can also run other operating systems such as Linux, Unix, OS/2, Solaris, etc. There are performance differences between dual-boot systems and virtualization. The latter tend to be a little slower (not much) and do not provide the video performance of the dual-boot system. See MacTech Labs- Virtualization Benchmarks, January 2013 | MacTech for comparisons of Boot Camp, Parallels, and VM Fusion. Benchmarks of all of the above except Crossover can be found in Benchmarking Parallels, Fusion, and VirtualBox Against Boot Camp - The Mac Observer. Boot Camp is only available with Leopard or later. Except for Crossover and a couple of similar alternatives like DarWine you must have a valid installer disc for Windows.
You must also have an internal optical drive for installing Windows. Windows cannot be installed from an external optical drive. -
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angelicagalera wrote:
hi i want to use boot camp for the first time but i was wondering if when you install windows in your mac there is any risk of virus?
Of course there is. There is with any computer system that you connect to the internet or transfers files to and from. When you run Windows on your Mac you increase the chance from zero that you will get a Windows based virus to virtualy the same risk as any other Windows user.
The weaknesses in Windows OS and applications are well trodden by virus and worm malcontents the world over. That doesn't mean that OSX is exempt though. All it will take is once and the entire Mac world will sit up and take notice......
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Just wanted to be sure before i bought leopard just so i can run boot camp. I have had my mac a year and actually found a need to run windows, and nothing else will work as well.
thanksWindows on Intel Macs
There are presently several alternatives for running Windows on Intel Macs.
1. Install the Apple Boot Camp software. Purchase Windows XP w/Service Pak 2 or Vista. Follow instructions in the Boot Camp documentation on installation of Boot Camp, creating Driver CD, and installing Windows. Boot Camp enables you to boot the computer into OS X or Windows.
2. Parallels Desktop for Mac and Windows XP, Vista Business, or Vista Ultimate. Parallels is software virtualization that enables running Windows concurrently with OS X.
3. VM Fusionand Windows XP, Vista Business, or Vista Ultimate. VM Fusion is software virtualization that enables running Windows concurrently with OS X.
4. CrossOver which enables running many Windows applications without having to install Windows. The Windows applications can run concurrently with OS X.
Note that Parallels and VM Fusion can also run other operating systems such as Linux, Unix, OS/2, Solaris, etc. There are performance differences between dual-boot systems and virtualization. The latter tend to be a little slower (not much) and do not provide the video performance of the dual-boot system.
See MacTech.com's Virtualization Benchmarking for comparisons of Boot Camp, Parallels, and VM Fusion. -
hi guys i used boot camp and turned my mac into windows and i wanted to play a pc game called guild wars 2 and i cant find a proper program to actually setup the game
Only if you decide to share with us your particular situation. Guild Wars should install and run like any other Game. Other than the Game Installer, Games don't need some other installer to make them work. Only someone who reads the instructions for the proper installation.
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Sebastianhey, I want to install windows on my mac, I have mac osx lion and I'm soon going to get mountain lion. If I use Boot camp to install windows do I need a windows disc, will i lose all my data, etc. If so how to I save them. Can I switch back to osx after I install windows. ( can I switch between Windows and OS X as many times as I want.) thanks for answering.
Sebastian -
I have partitioned the internal hard drive and am running Lion and Win7 Pro on my iMac i5 2.7GHz with 16GB RAM. Can I use Boot Camp to create a Windows partition on an OSX external hard drive to use for backing up both systems to the same HDD? I do NOT want to install OSX Lion or Windows 7 Professional on the external drive. I do NOT want to boot either system from the external drive. The 3TB external drive is for backup only.
Use NTFS for Windows and buy Paragon NTFS for OS X
You can also try Paragon HFS for Windows
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I would recommend strongly to always have a 2nd bootable Mac OS drive, only need 30GB partition. System maintenance. Though LIon Recovery Mode finally makes it less but not totally unneeded.
And yes you can use Windows to create a partition.
Boot Camp is too broad. Do you want or mean BC Assistant? not needed but probably possible.
MBR has trouble with 3TB drives. -
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Kernel panic when using boot camp assistant
OS X 10.5.2 all updates. 65GB of free space.
Installed Boot Camp Assistant from the OSX DVD that came with my MacBook(10.5)
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Then kernel panic (dimmed screen with text on grey stating must restart computer)
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The problem is that the partition literally involves chopping off a contiguous block of free space at the END of your existing partition. I was clued onto this by trying to resize the partition with Disk Utility (which also failed with a kernel panic). The problem I was having was simply that, since I had all but filled my hard drive before this, I had data for files spread all over my hard drive.
So what was I to do? There's no way to view where a file is physically on the disk. The iDefrag utility would do what I need, but cost $34. Then it hit me: what if I could defragment my hard drive manually? All I would need is an interface that shows me the physical layout of the data on the hard disk so I'd know which files I would need to either delete (or duplicate and delete). I correctly hypothesized that the DEMO of iDefrag would do this for me.
So I began, identifying the last file before contiguous white space began. The goal being to carve out a good chunk of "white" empty blocks on the right-hand side. For those wondering about the Header file at the very end of the disk, don't worry. It doesn't seem to matter. For example, I see a huge file. The blocks take up half the screen. I select it and open the Info window and see that it's a digital video file from iMovie. The info window has a selectable file path. I copy it, switch to the finder and hit "Apple-Shift-G", paste the file path and hit enter and I am taken there. I find the file and do one of three things:
1. If it's a file I want or need to keep, but it's a file I created, then I just duplicate it with Ctrl-D. Delete the original, rename the copy to the original name and empty the trash.
2. If it's a file I want or need to keep, but the SYSTEM generated it, I'll need to enter my password as I duplicate it. Enter the password again as you delete the original. You will need to use terminal and the "sudo mv" command to rename the file to the original name (Sorry). Empty the trash.
3. If it's a file I don't need, either created by me or the system, delete it and empty the trash.
"But wait", you might ask. "Steps 1 and 2 appear to do nothing! If you copy the file and rename it to be the same name as the original, nothing is being accomplished!" It might seem like nothing at first, but the FILE SYSTEM created the new file at the EARLIEST possible contiguous free disk space. If you're like me, you freed up a bunch of disk space to make this Boot Camp thing possible. This is evidenced by the white "holes" earlier in the disk (earlier as in "more to the left"). The copy of your file used the earlier white space. Deleting the original turns the blocks white!
Often your processes will create a lot of little files around the same place. For example, a World of Warcraft update might create a lot of little files at the same time. If you get to a point on the disk where it seems like a lot of files in the /Library/Application Support/ folder were created, just copy and paste the least common denominator. If you buy music once in a while, it might be your entire Music Folder that could be worth duplicating! No need to do it file-by-file. The important thing is that files to the right of the bar get moved more to the left of the bar, leaving with you CONTIGUOUS FREE SPACE at the END of your disk.
Finally, after doing this for about an hour, I wanted to see how big a partition I could create. Originally I'd been trying to create a 20 GB partition. From my estimates, if I had tried to create a 9 GB partition, I'd have been just fine the whole time. But that's not enough to play Bioshock! When I finished I took out the ruler and measured the bar on my screen.
The whole bar was 289 milimeters. The contiguous white space ended at 239 milimeters. That's 50 milimeters of continuous space. That's 20.9% of my disk capacity of 93.4 gigs. That, my friends, is 19.54 gigs. I created an 18 GB parition and voila, it worked fine!
I hope this helps some people. It's definitely a wallet-saving venture at the expense of sanity, but there is a way to do this without spending money. Also, while I call this a sort of "manual defragmentation process", it's a bit of a misnomer. While it is freeing up the blocks at the end of the drive, it is possible (or likely) that this process will seriously fragment your drive. After doing this, it may be worth the investment to buy iDefrag so they can really get your file system in order. But at least this'll get Boot Camp running.
Regards,
Tristan
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Can my MacBook Pro use boot camp with Windows 7 with BitLocker encryption?
I'm at wit's end with this, and I'm hoping I can get some advice here. I've read so many forum, posts and reviews that I'm not entirely sure what I can trust.
I have an early 2011 MacBook Pro (MacBookPro8,3). I need to run Windows encrypted for work purposes. It needs to be real windows with full-disk encryption (FDE). The business tools run in boot camp, but not in Parallels, because Parallels doesn't support DirectX 11. I would also benefit greatly from an SSD.
I do not want to do anything hacky like removing the Mac reocovery partition, because I've read that just loading Disk Utility in OS X might mess up your patrition boot tables as it tries to "fix" things. I don't want to have to manually reocover to fix stuff or chance losing data.
I have read (and tried) installing BitLocker on Windows 7 Ultimate under boot camp, but ran into the partition limit on my internal HDD. A maximum of 4 partitions are allowed, and between OS X, its recovery, boot camp, and the Windows partition, all 4 are used.
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I've read that BitLocker can be configured to use a flash drive as a decryption key, but I haven't been able to test that yet. I'm tried creating bootable flash drives under Windows and OS X, and none of them seem to appear when I access the boot menu (hold option during boot chime). I don't even know if this system supports bootable USB flash drives, or whether they can be used as a BitLocker key under boot camp.
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So ... does anyone have any suggestions preferably based on personal experience as to whether options #1 or #2 should work for my needs?
At this point, I'm really thinking I should just bite the bullet and purchase a PC that I will forever look down upon.Are you using a MacBook Pro? Is everything installed on the same drive?
I would love to know how that install was performed. When I install Windows under boot camp, my MacBook Pro drive ends up with 4 partitions: Mac, Mac Recovery, Windows, and a small partition that I believe is used by boot camp.
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