IDOC to File without XI or Middleware

Hi
I have a req to create idoc from external system without XI or any other middleware.
So i need to access the files from application server and create inbound idocs.
for this i need to access the files from application server(AL11) ...I did this part.
Example:
Create the order idoc from file and process the idoc : Sales order created
But when i deliver this sales order do i need to create an idoc again and convert it to file and place it on application server? or is there anyway to create a file whenever outbound transaction is processed like Delivery , invoice etc?
I need to communicate with legacy system only with the files..so inbound is fine coz iam creating idocs but do i need to create outbound idocs to create the files to place it on application server wrt preceeding documents i.e sales order etc..?
Please let me know coz we dont have middleware like XI etc...
Thanks
MadhuSudhan

Thanks for ur reply
I got your point..
Lets take a scenario
Lets say i created an inbound IDOC and created a Sales order thru the File data.
You are saying is right..when we create delivery for the sales order thru the transaction it will create the delivery number.. but i want to make it automation process ...I want to capture that Delivery number along with some delivery related data to capture in the file and put in the file on application server (Outbound)
Since i have the requirement to create Sales order at the very beginning i have the control coz i will process the idocs.but when i send the outbound information thru the file do i need to create the idoc and capture the data into the file
OR
is there any way to capture the data into file whenever we create the delivery for a sales order in SAP.
Please let me know and ask me if u r not clear on this...
Just be sure that there is no Middleware like Xi,Gentron....
Madhusudhan

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