IMac Power PC or intel? 20in Power PC at Costco for $1479 w/3 yrs Aplecare!

So, I was planning on getting an iMac in July, and was planning on getting a 17 inch intel iMac, when I noticed iMacs at my local Costco. $1479 for the 20 inch PowerPC version with 3 years of Applecare included! Wow! So, should I get the old one, or the new one? My uses are internet, a little iMovie for home movies, iTunes, and I will be using iWork, for a small business. No serious applications, and not alot at any one time. My Mac mini pushes my limits now, but is still fine for what I use it for mostly. Thanks! I will want to jump on this if the intel will not make that much difference for me.

Depends on how many years you plan on keeping your Mac.
Three years? Go with the G5.
ICD faster? With apps that are Universal, yes. In some cases.
Most software runs under Rosetta and is hit very hard in terms of speed.
I find graphic apps like Bryce run at about G3 speed. WAY slower than G4 and not even CLOSE to G5 speed.
But if your apps aren't heavy graphic-intensive, speed won't be an issue.
Now if you're planning on keeping this computer more than 3 years, go with the ICD. Apple's support will be much stronger in the years to come.
17" iBook Duo Core   Mac OS X (10.4.4)  

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    This post is the sequel to the discussion "iMac G3 computers still refusing to power up? Here is what I've found out!", accessible under this link http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2326420&tstart=0 .
    I made it! I have fixed the issue of the iMac DV refusing to power up.
    For this, I had to design and build a prototype of a cost-effective nonresident hardware patch, which I am about to describe in this article. I will also give the instructions of use. Subsequently, I will expose the rationale, which led to the background of the design. Finally, I will report the observations after the experiment with the patch and sketch the theory of its actual operation with the PMU firmware.
    *TABLE OF CONTENTS*
    1. Applicability condition and restriction
    2. Description of the PMU hardware patch
    3. Interconnections of the PMU microcontroller with the PMU Hardware Patch
    4. Instructions to read before mounting and unmounting the PMU Hardware Patch on the iMac
    5. Background to the design of the PMU Hardware Patch
    5.1. The genesis
    5.2. What the PMU Hardware Patch actually does
    6. Recommended updates before using the PMU Hardware Patch
    7. User's Manual of the PMU microcontroller
    8. Datasheets of the 74HC4049 Hex inverting high-to-low level shifter
    9. Datasheets of the 74HC193 Presettable synchronous 4-bit binary up/down counter
    10. Errata to the discussion start of February 6th, 2010
    h1. 1. Applicability condition and restriction
    The hardware patch addresses the issue of a slot-loading iMac, which can be powered up only within two seconds after resetting the PMU microcontroller. It is not required otherwise.
    Moreover, it does not need to reside in the iMac, but suffices once to permanently cure the power-management firmware.
    h1. 2. Description of the PMU hardware patch
    As seen on figures 1 and 2, the PMU hardware patch relies on a low part count: two logic ICs (74HC193 and 74HC4049), two 0805-packaged resistors and two 1206-packaged capacitors, which all fit on a 31mm x 45mm single-sided SMD prototyping board. The circuit consumes a current intensity of about 7.5 milliamps for a supply voltage of 3.3 volts.
    The PMU hardware patch functions as a frequency divider of the PMU sub-clock generator output, XCOUT. It applies an active low pulse to the PMU NMI_bar non-maskable input, once every sixteen XCOUT rising edge for half a period. It is disabled when the PMU main clock generator output, XOUT, returns to 0 by oscillations, or when the system is being reset with the PMU RESET_bar input asserted to 0. The peak-to-peak 1.5-Volt oscillations of XCOUT are fed through the 1-nanofarad DC-blocking capacitor to the inverter biased in the linear region by a feedback resistor of twice 270 kilo-ohms, for translation to 3.3V-compatible logic levels.
    The power-supply bypass capacitor amounts to 100 nanofarads.
    *Figure 1: Schematics of the PMU Hardware Patch*
    [Figure 1|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4923600713/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    Note the 0.5mm-diameter insulated copper wires in ochre color on the prototype board (figure 2).
    *Figure 2: Picture of the PMU Hardware Patch prototype - component side*
    [Figure 2|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4924196064/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    The 10cm-long interface wires can be clamped to the board with cylinder blocks made of epoxy glue (Araldite), as seen on figure 3.
    *Figure 3: Picture of the PMU Hardware Patch prototype - interface side*
    [Figure 3|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4924196296/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    h1. 3. Interconnections of the PMU microcontroller with the PMU Hardware Patch
    The PMU Hardware Patch uses the signals RESET_bar, NMI_bar and the clocks XOUT and XCOUT of the PMU microcontroller, U34 on the Logic Board underside. Both are supplied by the voltage available across the tantalum capacitor C131.
    Pin 73 of U34 performs the function INT3_bar because it turns out to be permanently configured as an edge-sensitive interrupt input, once the PMU Hardware Patch has been used. This will be justified in section 5.2. When the computer is plugged to the mains, a pressure on any power button can induce a falling edge on pin 73. U34 responds by asserting pin 75 to logic 0, as long as the computer has to remain powered on from the PAV board.
    Pin 10 of U34 is the active low reset input, RESET_bar. It toggles from logic 0 to 1, a few hundred milliseconds after U35 has detected the supply voltage across the capacitor C131 has settled above 2.2 volts, either because a good battery has been inserted in the holder, or else because the computer has been plugged to the mains and the trickle power from the PAV board, T5V, is available. It is also asserted to logic 0, as long as the PMU reset button is depressed.
    Pin 9 of U34 is the sub-clock output, XCOUT. The PMU microcontroller selects it for its operation in low-power dissipation mode to carry on the timekeeping, normally as soon as the computer is being shut down. The microcontroller shall then draw no more than 40 microamps typically from the battery.
    Pin 11 of U34 is the main clock output, XOUT. It is the default clock of the PMU microcontroller after the reset phase. The microcontroler selects it for its operation in high-speed mode, when the computer is powered on.
    Pin 15 of U34 is the active low edge-sensitive non-maskable interrupt, NMI_bar. It is normally unused and its voltage remains pulled up to the microcontroller supply through resistor R124. However, it happens to help resolve the power-up issue when it is controlled by the PMU Hardware Patch. The justifications are exposed in section 5.2.
    Figure 4 shows an easier access to the clock and control signal pins of U34, to be connected to the PMU Hardware Patch, from the top of the Logic Board. You will have to solder the PMU Hardware Patch interface wires at the locations pointed to.
    *Figure 4: View of the access to the PMU U34 chip signals for the PMU Hardware Patch*
    [Figure 4|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4929783304/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    h1. 4. Instructions to read before mounting and unmounting the PMU Hardware Patch on the iMac
    All possible updates accessible from the links in section 6 shall be installed. Then remove the battery. All this ensures your iMac will be prepared to interact with the PMU Hardware Patch under the same initial conditions as in the experiment I have carried out.
    Afterwards, remove the bottom housing, the metal shield, the SDRAM, the IDE cable and disconnect the hard-drive power cable. Take off the Logic Board together with the Down Converter board and the modem and place it on your workbench. Now carefully solder the PMU Hardware Patch interface wires at the locations pointed to in figure 4. Figure 5 illustrates the result.
    Install the boards back in the iMac, reconnect the hard-drive power cable and the IDE cable, and re-insert the SDRAM in its original slot. Put the computer on a large flat and safe area near a power socket. Stand up the PMU Hardware Patch on a plastic pouch, to insulate it for the parts of the Logic Board, as seen in figure 6. Connect the keyboard and the mouse.
    Once you have plugged the computer back to the mains, don't take the risk to touch the computer except the keyboard and the mouse, because quite a few visible metal parts are live and lethal by body contact!
    Wait for twenty seconds and then unplug the computer from the mains. Wait for a minute. Again, supply the mains to the computer and wait for twenty seconds, before you press the power button on the keyboard. Then let the operating system load until you can see the menu bar. Maybe a window will pop up to warn you that the system date is too ancient, but you can skip it. Now shut down the computer by selecting the command in the Special menu. I know it is awkward to move the mouse pointer when the picture is upside down. But take it easy!
    Unplug the computer from the mains and unmount the PMU Hardware Patch. Once you have re-assembled your iMac, you can power it up and use it without the constraint to reset the PMU each time before and then to press on a power button in a hurry within two seconds.
    A good tip: get all this task cleanly done by a professional, like a repairman or an electronics technician, if you feel you don't have enough skill in soldering!
    *Figure 5: View of the Patch-PMU interconnections*
    [Figure 5|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4929190683/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    *Figure 6: View of the mounted PMU Hardware Patch*
    [Figure 6|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4929190963/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    h1. 5. Background to the design of the PMU Hardware Patch
    h2. 5.1. The genesis
    My idea to the design of the PMU Hardware Patch started with the study of the user's manual of the PMU microcontroller and with my observations on the clocks XOUT and XCOUT.
    The symptom of the power-up default was accompanied by the disappearance of the clocks XOUT and XCOUT, if no power button was depressed within two seconds after pushing on the PMU reset button. I concluded, it was the reason why the PMU microcontroller could no longer react to a power button signal on pin 73 (P15/D13/INT3) and perform any timekeeping until the next PMU reset.
    By looking at the block diagram Figure 1.10.3 (Clock generating circuit) of the microcontroller user's manual, I noticed that any clock oscillator, XOUT and XOUT, can be re-enabled after the CM10 bit has pulsed to logic 1, provided that the SR latch is reset by the NMI_bar non-maskable interrupt line or by the RESET_bar input. If bit CM04 was set to logic 1, then XCOUT resumes the clock oscillations, and likewise for XOUT if bit CM05 was set to logic 1.
    I assumed the situation CM04 = 1 and CM05 = 0, as the PMU microcontroller enters the STOP mode. My idea was then to let it avoid the STOP mode and continue operating in the low-power dissipation mode, by periodically refreshing the SR latch reset through a low pulse on the NMI_bar input. Since the 32.768-kHz oscillations on XCOUT fade within a few hundred microseconds, repeating the pulse on NMI_bar at a quicker rate, once every 488 microseconds (i.e. once every sixteen XCOUT clock period) is acceptable.
    However, I could not foresee how the non-maskable interrupt routine would interfere with the PMU firmware, whenever the NMI_bar pulse would be acknowledged to let the microcontroller program counter branch to it. I know that events on edge-sensitive interrupt lines are normally latched, which allows the microcontroller state machine to detect them even if they are too short compared to the clock period. And yet, I assumed it differently, after reading this excerpt in the microcontroller user's manual in the section "Precautions for Interrupts": "Signals input to the NMI pin require an “L” level of 1 clock or more, from the operation clock of the CPU". I decided to design and build a PMU Hardware Patch, that would generate a pulse on NMI_bar for a duration of less one XCOUT clock period, actually for half of it. If it is synchronised with the appropriate edge of XCOUT, then maybe the pulse would not cause the branch to the NMI routine. Moreover, when both XOUT and XCOUT are running, the duration of the pulse from the PMU Hardware Patch would exceed the period of the XOUT clock. To avoid the risk that the pulse occurs for more than one period of XOUT, as the operation clock of the microcontroller, I designed the PMU Hardware Patch, so that it remains inactive as long as XOUT is not steadily asserted to logic 1. The PMU Hardware Patch will not either generate any low pulse during the reset phase, as long as RESET_bar is asserted to 0, and as required in the microcontroller user's manual.
    Once the PMU Hardware Patch assembled, I took the risk to use it in the iMac DV. What a relief it was, whenever I turned on the computer again, without the need to press the PMU reset button each time. The PMU Hardware Patch works!
    After a power cycling of one minute, without unplugging the iMac from the mains, I looked at the time and date I had initially set. The time had not advanced correctly, while the computer was turned off. Instead it was lagging: it recovered with the value I had initially entered, plus about one minute that the operating system takes to load. That means that no clock was running again, while the computer was turned off. Nonetheless I unmounted the PMU Hardware Patch and tried power cycling the computer at any time interval. Powering it on always succeeded without the need anymore to reset the PMU microcontroller before each attempt.
    h2. 5.2. What the PMU Hardware Patch actually does
    This means the PMU Hardware Patch had definitely interfered with the PMU firmware and cured it with respect to the power-up issue once and for all. I have figured out it interrupts the firmware through the NMI routine, which restores a few data in the non-volatile FLASH memory. These data are used to program the interrupt control register INT3IC, so that pin 73 behaves as the edge sensitive interrupt INT3_bar. This eliminates the need to have any clock running to register a request on pin 73 to power up the computer. Furthermore, when INT3_bar senses a low pulse because a power button is being pushed on, it urges the internal signal "Interrupt request level judgment" to reset the SR latch register, which re-enables any clock oscillator, as seen in figures 1.11.9 (Maskable interrupts priorities (peripheral I/O interrupts)) and 1.10.3 (Clock generating circuit). The PMU microcontroller can resume its operations and look for the source of the interruption. It finds out it has to power up the iMac, because INT3_bar had been latched in as active.
    h1. 6. Recommended updates before using the PMU Hardware Patch
    +Mac OS 9: Available Updates+
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1387
    +Power PC-based iMac: When to install available updates+
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2560?viewlocale=enUS&locale=enUS
    +iMac: How to Install an iMac Firmware Update+
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2561
    h1. 7. User's Manual of the PMU microcontroller
    http://documentation.renesas.com/eng/products/mpumcu/62aeum.pdf
    h1. 8. Datasheets of the 74HC4049 Hex inverting high-to-low level shifter
    http://www.nxp.com/documents/datasheet/74HC4049CNV.pdf
    http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/1965/m74hc4049.pdf
    http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/cd74hc4049
    http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/MM/MM74HC4049.pdf
    h1. 9. Datasheets of the 74HC193 Presettable synchronous 4-bit binary up/down counter
    http://www.nxp.com/documents/datasheet/74HCHCT193.pdf
    http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/cd74hc193
    h1. 10. Errata to the discussion start of February 6th, 2010
    1. "PRAM battery": Wrong naming! The Logic-Board battery only serves to support the timekeeping operation when the mains is removed from the computer, whereas the PRAM data are stored in the non-volatile FLASH memory of the PMU microcontroller (in slot-loading iMacs).
    2. "(...) sets bit 1 of the CM1 register (system clock control register 1) to 1 (...)". This fragment shall rather read: "(...) sets bit 0 of the CM1 register (system clock control register 1) to 1 (...)".
    Aegidius_2
    Keep perseverance and reach your goal!

    This post is the sequel to the discussion "iMac G3 computers still refusing to power up? Here is what I've found out!", accessible under this link http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=2326420&tstart=0 .
    I made it! I have fixed the issue of the iMac DV refusing to power up.
    For this, I had to design and build a prototype of a cost-effective nonresident hardware patch, which I am about to describe in this article. I will also give the instructions of use. Subsequently, I will expose the rationale, which led to the background of the design. Finally, I will report the observations after the experiment with the patch and sketch the theory of its actual operation with the PMU firmware.
    *TABLE OF CONTENTS*
    1. Applicability condition and restriction
    2. Description of the PMU hardware patch
    3. Interconnections of the PMU microcontroller with the PMU Hardware Patch
    4. Instructions to read before mounting and unmounting the PMU Hardware Patch on the iMac
    5. Background to the design of the PMU Hardware Patch
    5.1. The genesis
    5.2. What the PMU Hardware Patch actually does
    6. Recommended updates before using the PMU Hardware Patch
    7. User's Manual of the PMU microcontroller
    8. Datasheets of the 74HC4049 Hex inverting high-to-low level shifter
    9. Datasheets of the 74HC193 Presettable synchronous 4-bit binary up/down counter
    10. Errata to the discussion start of February 6th, 2010
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    The hardware patch addresses the issue of a slot-loading iMac, which can be powered up only within two seconds after resetting the PMU microcontroller. It is not required otherwise.
    Moreover, it does not need to reside in the iMac, but suffices once to permanently cure the power-management firmware.
    h1. 2. Description of the PMU hardware patch
    As seen on figures 1 and 2, the PMU hardware patch relies on a low part count: two logic ICs (74HC193 and 74HC4049), two 0805-packaged resistors and two 1206-packaged capacitors, which all fit on a 31mm x 45mm single-sided SMD prototyping board. The circuit consumes a current intensity of about 7.5 milliamps for a supply voltage of 3.3 volts.
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    The power-supply bypass capacitor amounts to 100 nanofarads.
    *Figure 1: Schematics of the PMU Hardware Patch*
    [Figure 1|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4923600713/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    Note the 0.5mm-diameter insulated copper wires in ochre color on the prototype board (figure 2).
    *Figure 2: Picture of the PMU Hardware Patch prototype - component side*
    [Figure 2|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4924196064/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    The 10cm-long interface wires can be clamped to the board with cylinder blocks made of epoxy glue (Araldite), as seen on figure 3.
    *Figure 3: Picture of the PMU Hardware Patch prototype - interface side*
    [Figure 3|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4924196296/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    h1. 3. Interconnections of the PMU microcontroller with the PMU Hardware Patch
    The PMU Hardware Patch uses the signals RESET_bar, NMI_bar and the clocks XOUT and XCOUT of the PMU microcontroller, U34 on the Logic Board underside. Both are supplied by the voltage available across the tantalum capacitor C131.
    Pin 73 of U34 performs the function INT3_bar because it turns out to be permanently configured as an edge-sensitive interrupt input, once the PMU Hardware Patch has been used. This will be justified in section 5.2. When the computer is plugged to the mains, a pressure on any power button can induce a falling edge on pin 73. U34 responds by asserting pin 75 to logic 0, as long as the computer has to remain powered on from the PAV board.
    Pin 10 of U34 is the active low reset input, RESET_bar. It toggles from logic 0 to 1, a few hundred milliseconds after U35 has detected the supply voltage across the capacitor C131 has settled above 2.2 volts, either because a good battery has been inserted in the holder, or else because the computer has been plugged to the mains and the trickle power from the PAV board, T5V, is available. It is also asserted to logic 0, as long as the PMU reset button is depressed.
    Pin 9 of U34 is the sub-clock output, XCOUT. The PMU microcontroller selects it for its operation in low-power dissipation mode to carry on the timekeeping, normally as soon as the computer is being shut down. The microcontroller shall then draw no more than 40 microamps typically from the battery.
    Pin 11 of U34 is the main clock output, XOUT. It is the default clock of the PMU microcontroller after the reset phase. The microcontroler selects it for its operation in high-speed mode, when the computer is powered on.
    Pin 15 of U34 is the active low edge-sensitive non-maskable interrupt, NMI_bar. It is normally unused and its voltage remains pulled up to the microcontroller supply through resistor R124. However, it happens to help resolve the power-up issue when it is controlled by the PMU Hardware Patch. The justifications are exposed in section 5.2.
    Figure 4 shows an easier access to the clock and control signal pins of U34, to be connected to the PMU Hardware Patch, from the top of the Logic Board. You will have to solder the PMU Hardware Patch interface wires at the locations pointed to.
    *Figure 4: View of the access to the PMU U34 chip signals for the PMU Hardware Patch*
    [Figure 4|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4929783304/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    h1. 4. Instructions to read before mounting and unmounting the PMU Hardware Patch on the iMac
    All possible updates accessible from the links in section 6 shall be installed. Then remove the battery. All this ensures your iMac will be prepared to interact with the PMU Hardware Patch under the same initial conditions as in the experiment I have carried out.
    Afterwards, remove the bottom housing, the metal shield, the SDRAM, the IDE cable and disconnect the hard-drive power cable. Take off the Logic Board together with the Down Converter board and the modem and place it on your workbench. Now carefully solder the PMU Hardware Patch interface wires at the locations pointed to in figure 4. Figure 5 illustrates the result.
    Install the boards back in the iMac, reconnect the hard-drive power cable and the IDE cable, and re-insert the SDRAM in its original slot. Put the computer on a large flat and safe area near a power socket. Stand up the PMU Hardware Patch on a plastic pouch, to insulate it for the parts of the Logic Board, as seen in figure 6. Connect the keyboard and the mouse.
    Once you have plugged the computer back to the mains, don't take the risk to touch the computer except the keyboard and the mouse, because quite a few visible metal parts are live and lethal by body contact!
    Wait for twenty seconds and then unplug the computer from the mains. Wait for a minute. Again, supply the mains to the computer and wait for twenty seconds, before you press the power button on the keyboard. Then let the operating system load until you can see the menu bar. Maybe a window will pop up to warn you that the system date is too ancient, but you can skip it. Now shut down the computer by selecting the command in the Special menu. I know it is awkward to move the mouse pointer when the picture is upside down. But take it easy!
    Unplug the computer from the mains and unmount the PMU Hardware Patch. Once you have re-assembled your iMac, you can power it up and use it without the constraint to reset the PMU each time before and then to press on a power button in a hurry within two seconds.
    A good tip: get all this task cleanly done by a professional, like a repairman or an electronics technician, if you feel you don't have enough skill in soldering!
    *Figure 5: View of the Patch-PMU interconnections*
    [Figure 5|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4929190683/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    *Figure 6: View of the mounted PMU Hardware Patch*
    [Figure 6|http://www.flickr.com/photos/aegidius_2/4929190963/in/photostream/|Click to view in a new tab.]
    h1. 5. Background to the design of the PMU Hardware Patch
    h2. 5.1. The genesis
    My idea to the design of the PMU Hardware Patch started with the study of the user's manual of the PMU microcontroller and with my observations on the clocks XOUT and XCOUT.
    The symptom of the power-up default was accompanied by the disappearance of the clocks XOUT and XCOUT, if no power button was depressed within two seconds after pushing on the PMU reset button. I concluded, it was the reason why the PMU microcontroller could no longer react to a power button signal on pin 73 (P15/D13/INT3) and perform any timekeeping until the next PMU reset.
    By looking at the block diagram Figure 1.10.3 (Clock generating circuit) of the microcontroller user's manual, I noticed that any clock oscillator, XOUT and XOUT, can be re-enabled after the CM10 bit has pulsed to logic 1, provided that the SR latch is reset by the NMI_bar non-maskable interrupt line or by the RESET_bar input. If bit CM04 was set to logic 1, then XCOUT resumes the clock oscillations, and likewise for XOUT if bit CM05 was set to logic 1.
    I assumed the situation CM04 = 1 and CM05 = 0, as the PMU microcontroller enters the STOP mode. My idea was then to let it avoid the STOP mode and continue operating in the low-power dissipation mode, by periodically refreshing the SR latch reset through a low pulse on the NMI_bar input. Since the 32.768-kHz oscillations on XCOUT fade within a few hundred microseconds, repeating the pulse on NMI_bar at a quicker rate, once every 488 microseconds (i.e. once every sixteen XCOUT clock period) is acceptable.
    However, I could not foresee how the non-maskable interrupt routine would interfere with the PMU firmware, whenever the NMI_bar pulse would be acknowledged to let the microcontroller program counter branch to it. I know that events on edge-sensitive interrupt lines are normally latched, which allows the microcontroller state machine to detect them even if they are too short compared to the clock period. And yet, I assumed it differently, after reading this excerpt in the microcontroller user's manual in the section "Precautions for Interrupts": "Signals input to the NMI pin require an “L” level of 1 clock or more, from the operation clock of the CPU". I decided to design and build a PMU Hardware Patch, that would generate a pulse on NMI_bar for a duration of less one XCOUT clock period, actually for half of it. If it is synchronised with the appropriate edge of XCOUT, then maybe the pulse would not cause the branch to the NMI routine. Moreover, when both XOUT and XCOUT are running, the duration of the pulse from the PMU Hardware Patch would exceed the period of the XOUT clock. To avoid the risk that the pulse occurs for more than one period of XOUT, as the operation clock of the microcontroller, I designed the PMU Hardware Patch, so that it remains inactive as long as XOUT is not steadily asserted to logic 1. The PMU Hardware Patch will not either generate any low pulse during the reset phase, as long as RESET_bar is asserted to 0, and as required in the microcontroller user's manual.
    Once the PMU Hardware Patch assembled, I took the risk to use it in the iMac DV. What a relief it was, whenever I turned on the computer again, without the need to press the PMU reset button each time. The PMU Hardware Patch works!
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    h1. 6. Recommended updates before using the PMU Hardware Patch
    +Mac OS 9: Available Updates+
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1387
    +Power PC-based iMac: When to install available updates+
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2560?viewlocale=enUS&locale=enUS
    +iMac: How to Install an iMac Firmware Update+
    http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2561
    h1. 7. User's Manual of the PMU microcontroller
    http://documentation.renesas.com/eng/products/mpumcu/62aeum.pdf
    h1. 8. Datasheets of the 74HC4049 Hex inverting high-to-low level shifter
    http://www.nxp.com/documents/datasheet/74HC4049CNV.pdf
    http://www.st.com/stonline/products/literature/ds/1965/m74hc4049.pdf
    http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/cd74hc4049
    http://www.fairchildsemi.com/ds/MM/MM74HC4049.pdf
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    http://www.nxp.com/documents/datasheet/74HCHCT193.pdf
    http://www.ti.com/lit/gpn/cd74hc193
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    Aegidius_2
    Keep perseverance and reach your goal!

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    First work thru the steps at > Mac OS X: Gray screen appears during startup
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    My 24" iMac just died and will not power-up.  What can I do?

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    Release the power button.
    Attach the computers power cable.
    Press the power button to turn on the computer.

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    and without a good battery, settings are lost or easily corrupted. And this
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    Here's an older site with a take-apart from some time ago.
    http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/systems/imac_g4/imacg4_takeapart.html
    This also would be a good time to consider, if battery is all that's failed, to
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    edited

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                                  [click on image to enlarge]
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    EtreCheck version: 1.9.15 (52)
    Report generated August 30, 2014 at 6:56:41 PM EDT
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        iMac (21.5-inch, Mid 2011) (Verified)
        iMac - model: iMac12,1
        1 2.5 GHz Intel Core i5 CPU: 4 cores
        4 GB RAM
    Video Information: ?
        AMD Radeon HD 6750M - VRAM: 512 MB
            iMac 1920 x 1080
    System Software: ?
        OS X 10.9.4 (13E28) - Uptime: 0 days 0:16:53
    Disk Information: ?
        ST3120026AS disk0 : (120.03 GB)
        S.M.A.R.T. Status: Verified
            EFI (disk0s1) <not mounted>: 209.7 MB
            Untitled (disk0s2) / [Startup]: 119.17 GB (87.12 GB free)
            Recovery HD (disk0s3) <not mounted>: 650 MB
        HL-DT-STDVDRW  GA32N 
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        Apple Inc. FaceTime HD Camera (Built-in)
        CHICONY USB NetVista Full Width Keyboard
        Apple Inc. BRCM2046 Hub
            Apple Inc. Bluetooth USB Host Controller
        Apple Computer, Inc. IR Receiver
        Apple Internal Memory Card Reader
    Thunderbolt Information: ?
        Apple Inc. thunderbolt_bus
    Gatekeeper: ?
        Anywhere
    Kernel Extensions: ?
        [loaded]    com.nvidia.CUDA (1.1.0) Support
        [loaded]    com.sophos.kext.sav (9.0.61 - SDK 10.7) Support
        [loaded]    com.sophos.nke.swi (9.0.53 - SDK 10.8) Support
    Startup Items: ?
        CUDA: Path: /System/Library/StartupItems/CUDA
        FanControlDaemon: Path: /Library/StartupItems/FanControlDaemon
    Launch Daemons: ?
        [loaded]    com.adobe.fpsaud.plist Support
        [running]    com.arcsoft.eservutil.plist Support
        [running]    com.bjango.istatmenusdaemon.plist Support
        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Helper-Tool.plist Support
        [running]    com.sophos.autoupdate.plist Support
        [running]    com.sophos.configuration.plist Support
        [running]    com.sophos.intercheck.plist Support
        [running]    com.sophos.notification.plist Support
        [running]    com.sophos.scan.plist Support
        [running]    com.sophos.sxld.plist Support
        [running]    com.sophos.webd.plist Support
    Launch Agents: ?
        [running]    com.arcsoft.esinter.plist Support
        [running]    com.bjango.istatmenusagent.plist Support
        [loaded]    com.nvidia.CUDASoftwareUpdate.plist Support
        [loaded]    com.oracle.java.Java-Updater.plist Support
        [running]    com.sophos.uiserver.plist Support
    User Login Items: ?
        Macs Fan Control
        Firefox
    Internet Plug-ins: ?
        FlashPlayer-10.6: Version: 14.0.0.176 - SDK 10.6 Support
        Flash Player: Version: 14.0.0.176 - SDK 10.6 Support
        QuickTime Plugin: Version: 7.7.3
        JavaAppletPlugin: Version: Java 7 Update 67 Check version
        Default Browser: Version: 537 - SDK 10.9
    Audio Plug-ins: ?
        BluetoothAudioPlugIn: Version: 1.0 - SDK 10.9
        AirPlay: Version: 2.0 - SDK 10.9
        AppleAVBAudio: Version: 203.2 - SDK 10.9
        iSightAudio: Version: 7.7.3 - SDK 10.9
    iTunes Plug-ins: ?
        Quartz Composer Visualizer: Version: 1.4 - SDK 10.9
    3rd Party Preference Panes: ?
        CUDA Preferences  Support
        Fan Control  Support
        Flash Player  Support
        Java  Support
    Time Machine: ?
        Time Machine not configured!
    Top Processes by CPU: ?
             1%    WindowServer
             1%    fontd
             0%    firefox
             0%    SystemUIServer
             0%    SophosWebIntelligence
    Top Processes by Memory: ?
        229 MB    firefox
        156 MB    SophosScanD
        152 MB    InterCheck
        131 MB    com.apple.IconServicesAgent
        115 MB    SophosAntiVirus
    Virtual Memory Information: ?
        424 MB    Free RAM
        1.53 GB    Active RAM
        1.37 GB    Inactive RAM
        699 MB    Wired RAM
        1.26 GB    Page-ins
        0 B    Page-outs

    I'd start by getting rid of the following software responsible for these extensions.
    Kernel Extensions: ?
        [loaded]    com.nvidia.CUDA (1.1.0) Support
        [loaded]    com.sophos.kext.sav (9.0.61 - SDK 10.7) Support
        [loaded]    com.sophos.nke.swi (9.0.53 - SDK 10.8) Support
    Startup Items: ?
        CUDA: Path: /System/Library/StartupItems/CUDA
        FanControlDaemon: Path: /Library/StartupItems/FanControlDaemon
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    Some software use startup daemons or agents that are a new feature of the OS.  Look for them in /Library/LaunchAgents/ and /Library/LaunchDaemons/ or in /Home/Library/LaunchAgents/.
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    Some applications install a receipt in the /Library/Receipts/ folder.  Usually with the same name as the program or the developer.  The item generally has a ".pkg" extension.  Be sure you also delete this item as some programs use it to determine if it's already installed.
    There are many utilities that can uninstall applications.  Here is a selection:
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        2. AppDelete
        3. Automaton
        4. Hazel
        5. AppCleaner
        6. CleanApp
        7. iTrash
        8. Amnesia
        9. Uninstaller
      10. Spring Cleaning
    For more information visit The XLab FAQs and read the FAQ on removing software.
    Be sure to remove your two Login Items. Finally do this:
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    Boot to the Recovery HD:
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    Repair
    When the recovery menu appears select Disk Utility. After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list.  In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive.  If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported then click on the Repair Permissions button. When the process is completed, then quit DU and return to the main menu.
    Reinstall Lion, Mountain Lion, or Mavericks
    OS X Mavericks- Reinstall OS X
    OS X Mountain Lion- Reinstall OS X
    OS X Lion- Reinstall Mac OS X
         Note: You will need an active Internet connection. I suggest using Ethernet
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  • Late 2006, 24" iMac, 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Screen Tearing, nVidia 7300

    Late 2006, 24" iMac, 2.16 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo, Screen Tearing, nVidia GeForce 7300 GT
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    Based on reading here and elsewhere, I decided to replace the graphics card. To give back to the community, I wanted to layout the procedure here.
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    I had a tough time finding the right card. I did exhaustive web searches using every combination of Nvidia 7300 GT, etc. You really need to search by the Apple part number. The Apple part number for the 7300 is 661-4179, for the 7600 is 661-4180. I found it at We Love Macs and at dv warehouse. I paid $248 for the 7600 card. BE CAREFUL buying a "refurbished" card. At We Love Macs, "refurbished" means "pulled from a working machine." Could be a machine with as much mileage as yours and prone to the same failures as yours.
    The card is an MXM style card (generally used in laptops), with a giant heat sink and heat pipe assembly. The card can be separated from the heat assembly. If I had time, I would have tried a generic, cheaper, MXM style card.
    Dispelling some myths.
    People here and elsewhere have said that no Intel iMac graphics card can be replaced, that they're wedded to the logic board. The one on this model can be replaced, I've done it. Also, some have said you can't put a 256MB, 7600 GT in a machine that originally had a 128MB, 7300 GT. Also, not true. That's what I did to my machine and it is working fine.
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    2) Make a complete backup of any internal drives and make sure the backup will be bootable (use Carbon Copy Cloner)
    3) Use static safeguards, like an anti-static wrist strap.
    4) Get a pen a stack of paper envelopes to separate and label the pieces you remove.
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    7) Remove RAM door, #2 Phillips x 2.
    8) Remove RAM.
    9) Remove 4 T-8s along bottom.
    10) Remove large rectangular plastic bezel surrounding the whole machine, tilt up being careful not to stress iSight cables. You'll need to stretch it around the RAM ejection tabs.
    11) Detach two iSight cables.
    12) Peel up black stickers at lower corners of speakers.
    13) Remove LCD screws, T-8 x 8. You'll probably drop a few, they're pretty easy to retrieve.
    14) Remove two retaining screws on right hand LCD cable. T-6 x2 Unplug cable.
    15) Remove LCD inverter cable, left.
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    17) Remove right speaker. T-10 Note: left and right speaker screws are different lengths.
    18) Unplug ODD blower cable.
    19) Unplug ODD temp cable and lift up tape.
    20) Unplug HDD blower cable.
    21) Unplug the HDD temp cable.
    22) Unplug the camera & mic cable.
    23) Unscrew the clamp securing the airport card (has two antenna cables going to it, labeled PCIE), T-6 x 2
    24) Unplug SATA cable.
    25) Unplug Power cable, thick black plastic harness, socket.
    26) Unplug ambient temp cable.
    27) Unscrew the bluetooth card, T-6 x2.
    28) Unplug CPU blower cable.
    29) Unplug power button cable, 2 conductor, tiny cable, bottom left.
    30) Unscrew left speaker, T-10, unplug from logic board, but just leave dangling, no need to remove cable completely.
    31) Remove logic board screws. Be careful to segregate them, they have different lengths and different thread pitches and thread types. Some are machine threads going into metal, some are coarse threads going into plastic.
    31a) Heat sink frame to case T-8 x 2
    31b) Logic board to case T-8 x 3
    31c) Screws at heat sink from arrows T-8 x 3
    31d) Logic board at bottom near RAM slot T-8 x 2
    32) Unplug ODD ribbon cable, be extremely careful. Release plastic tabs on each side to remove. Be sure it is fully and evenly seated when you put it back later.
    33) Remove logic board with attached graphics card.
    34) Unplug graphics card heat sink sensor cable at logic board end.
    35) Remove graphics card screws 2 x T-6
    36) Remove single screw from small L-bracket on heat sink 1 x T-6
    Replace graphics card.
    Reverse steps, put everything back together. Be careful not to pinch any cables when you put the logic board back in. When you put the LCD back in, if you can't get the screws to stick to the driver, use some glue stick from your kid's art supplies.
    Test everything. You've disconnected every cable in the system.
    I torture tested the machine with a space heater on it, 5 different videos of different formats playing at the same time. No problems.
    I took a lot of pictures inside the machine. As soon as I figure out a good place to post them, I'll try to add a link here.
    Good luck

    Greetings!
    I know this is in response to your post from over 2 years ago, but I was searching on Apple's site for the max RAM I can upgrade our refurbed iMac too and it brought up this post.
    Oddly enough, I've been experiencing the same screen issues and locking up on our iMac as well. I was concerned it was a bad memory module, but now I'm thinking it's the same issue you found.
    Because I bought this some 2+ years ago refurbed from Apple, I'm not surprised that could be the actual problem.
    I've pulled this thing apart once to replace the hard-drive which crashed about a year ago, so I'm not totally new at opening it up, but this process you mention sounds pretty intense...just wanted to get your second take on it based on what I've done thus far.
    Thanks again for posting this...it was an eye-opener as to what might actually be causing our issues with our trusted Mac!
    Joshua

  • 24" iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo OSX v10.5.5 shutdown anomaly

    24” iMac 2.8 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo OSX v10.5.5 shutdown anomaly.
    I have noticed that when my iMac shuts down, that initially the One Touch Maxtor 500G external drive attached to the Firewire 400 port also does a normal shut down and the light goes out. Within a few minutes I noticed that the light on the Maxtor is back on. This does not happen if I use the USB 2.0 port to attach the hard drive and iMac, the light remains off. It appears the FW400 port is active on the iMac even when in the shutdown mode. Is this normal for the iMac?
    I have a 13”MacBook 2.4Ghz that does not activate the same Maxtor when it is shut down. I attach it via the MacBook FW400 port.
    I hooked up an ammeter to the iMac power cord and observed the following readings:
    iMac Off: From 50ma to 180ma cycling at a rate of 23 cycles/minute. Using the Watt reading of the instrument, that amounted to cycling from 0 to 5 Watts every 4 seconds.
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