IMovie '08 & Multiple Camera editing

OK, I know I saw/read/heard a blurb SOMEWHERE that mentioned that iMovie 08 was able to perform multiple camera editing now. In other words, I interpret that to mean 2, 3, or more video track lines in the timeline for performing match editing.
So where is the information that confirms this? Was Jobs the one who mentioned it? That's about the only reason I'd upgrade to 08. Otherwise I'll stick with FCStudio. But I like iMovie for the quick and dirty videos I do of the family life.

OK, I know I saw/read/heard a blurb SOMEWHERE that mentioned that iMovie 08 was able to perform multiple camera editing now.
Perhaps what you heard was the fact that imovie can import from a wide range of digital video devices and formats, including tape-based and the latest tapeless camcorders-not multiple cameras at once?
iMovie ’08 Camcorder Support
http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=306171
Sue

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Multiple camera editing

we shoot videos with 3 cameras. i was wondering if it is possible to edit the footage with movie 8

Yes, you can. Just import from each camera. You probably end up with 3 events, one per camera. Then drag the clips from all the events into a single project as needed to compose your movie.
Now, if you want to do things like nice smooth cuts from one camera to another, you might want to invest into a more advanced application like Final Cut Express. With iMovie '08, you can only view one clip at a time, so it's difficult to find the right in and out points of two clips to line up perfectly. With FCE, you can have two clips up on the screen, side by side, so that you can nicely select frame accurate in and out points. FCE is US $300.

Multiple cameras in FCP

I've read some of the other posts on this and I want to make sure I understand the issue of multiple camera edits in FCP. In order to synch up the cameras on prosumer models (Sony PD170) I would need to manually find a place where the cameras both have the same noise spike or easily identified visual cue and then I can set that as the starting synch point? When I import my video into the computer it comes in as one long stream and then I make subclips using the start/stop markers in the timecode (forgive my laymans explanation). Does that mean I have to manually synch each subclip, or only the start of each large import DV file import?
I'm getting a second camera and I need to know what I'm dealing with before I get off the ground on this. I heard you could do something like bringing all the cameras together, turn them on, and then clap so they all have the same spike to synch on? Does that mean I just have to synch it once to cover all the clips from each dv tape?
Thanks for putting up with a newbie

Brian,
You've asked several questions - some regarding editing, some regarding shooting. I'll tackle the editing part first:
Does that mean I have to manually synch each subclip, or only the start of each large import DV file import?<<</div>
It really depends on what it is you're editing. For example, if its something that was shot all in one take, such as a wedding ceremony, then each of the cameras should have been recording non-stop throughout the duration of the ceremony. When you're ready to edit, in FCP's Log & Capture window, you'd set an IN and OUT point at the point you want to start and end the capture for each tape.
Once the tapes from all cameras have been captured, if you have FCP 5, you can use the multi-clip feature to sync all clips to a common IN point you've set on the clips. Then follow the manual's instructions for multi-clip editing.
If you have an older version of FCP, you'll have to do it manually but it isn't really hard at all. Just takes a bit more time.
Now if you were shooting something with multiple cameras and the cameras were started and stopped/paused at different times, then you'll need to sync up each take from each camera. Kind of the same as above, but with shorter clips.
I heard you could do something like bringing all the cameras together, turn them on, and then clap so they all have the same spike to synch on?<<</div>
It does make it much easier to sync up clips in post if the camera tapes have an easily identifiable sync point. A loud hand clap, a photographer's flash or anything else can work. If the cameras are not close together it is usually better to rely on a visual cue since sound travels so slow ... which is why I often use a battery operated pro flash unit (an old Vivitar 285 left over form my photography days).
-DH

How do I convert a VLC file to imovie. I have managed to download the mini dvd disc from the video camera onto a USB and have saved the file on my desktop but have no clue how to get it into iMovie so I can edit and send via email. Any ideas!!!

How do I convert a VLC file to iMovie.
I've managed to download the mini dvd from the video camera onto a USB and have save onto my Desktop.
But have no idea how to convert to iMovie so I can edit and attach video to an email and Facebook.

Edit WMV
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and http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/forpros/encoder/default.mspx
Also... I have NOT used those products, I only forward due to other mentions
Convert http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_convert_my_files%3F
Edit Vob http://premierepro.wikia.com/wiki/FAQ:How_do_I_import_VOB_files_/_edit_a_DVD%3F
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$80 http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html
$75 http://www.videoredo.com/en/index.htm
$75 http://www.magix.com/us/movie-edit-pro/
$70 http://www.nchsoftware.com/prism/index.html Converter
$40 http://www.daniusoft.com/dvd-ripper.html#135
$40 http://www.deskshare.com/dmc.aspx Digital Media Converter
$00 http://www.squared5.com/ MPEG Streamclip Converter
$00 http://www.erightsoft.com/SUPER.html Multi-Converter
$00 http://www.virtualdub.org/ Mpeg to AVI Converter

Hello, wonder if I can edit movies in iMovie with other cameras. For example: A camera of another brand, passing it to my PC and I could play in iPadm doing editing videos? thank you

Hello, wonder if I can edit movies in iMovie with other cameras. For example: A camera of another brand, passing it to my PC and I could play in iPadm doing editing videos? thank you

Not sure what you mean. You can import video into I Movie either via your USB slot if it is already in digital format or via your fire wire slot (you may need an adapter as the MAC slot is a mini slot, the adapters are available on line) if you are coming from tape based media.

How to use FCPX to edit from multiple cameras and keep audio in sync?

I apologize if this is obvious. I thought I saw a discussion about it in this list already but I cannot find it for the life of me. And I am a relative newbie to video editing. Here's my question/problem.
I film live musical performances using a three-camera setup. Using Final Cut Express, I typically bring the clips into a multi-track timeline and sync the clips to the master audio. Then to create the edit of the performance, I go through the performance and essentially select a camera angle by cutting it out of it's track and dragging it up to a fourth video track. Utlimately, this fourth track (with suitable transitions) becomes the final product.
The point being that it's critical that all three cameras be kept in sync so I can choose whatever angle works best without having to do additional audio sync of any kind.
The question is, is this approach to a synchronized multi-camera edit possible/practical in FCPX? Or is there a different approach/workflow that FCPX encourages that will get the same effect? Otherwise, I cannot see how FCPX will work for any kind of multi-camera project where there is a fixed timeline imposed by the audio track...
-Tom

FCP X has its own forum located here: https://discussions.apple.com/community/professional_applications/final_cut_pro_ x
-DH

Multi-cam edit issues with multiple DSLR clips

Hello,
Working in CC. I have 2 camera angles that were filmed with 2 DSLRs, and mic'd audio that was recorded into a Zoom H4N. Audio recording never stopped, but due to the nature of DSLRs, the 2 cameras would stop recording every 12 +/- minutes. In this end, I have:
Camera 1 - 16 clips
Camera 2 - 17 clips
Zoom H4N - 1 track
When using the multi-cam source sequence option, it understandably thinks each clip is a new camera/angle. However, that's not very helpful for me when I have 17 angles (15 of which are blank) showing up in the program monitor. Any suggestions on how to better tackle this dilemma?
Thank You.

Thanks, Mark. Appreciate the quick response. After messing around, I combined your method with PluralEyes (seemed less tedious that syncing 17 clips manually). There might be a faster/easier way, but this is what I did, in case any one is curious (sounds more tedious than it actual is):
1. Select cam 1 clip 1, cam 2 clip 1 and external audio in the Browser.
2. Left-click, "create Multi-Camera Source Sequence." Two angles and audio are now in a multi-cam sequence. Rename as Multicam_Source_Sequence
3. Create new sequence, called Sequence_01 and open in timeline.
3. Excluding cam 1 clip 1 and cam 2 clip 1, drag all remaining clips of cam 1 to V1, all remaining cam 2 clips to V2, and single external audio to A3 into Sequence_01 timeline.
4. Launch Sequence_01 into PluralEyes 3. Sync and Export.
5. Open PluralEyes' "Sequence_01_synced" (not "Sequence_01_synced Replaced") in timeline.
6. Find a good marker point toward the beginning of the audio where it has synced cam 1 clip 2 and cam 2 clip 2. Cut at that point.
7. Copy all video tracks (exclude audio tracks).
8. Find Multicam_Source_Sequence and open in timeline (un-nested, so that all tracks are revealed).
9. Manually find the same audio marker point where you cut in Sequence_01_synced. Place playhead directly at cut point.
10. Paste video clips. All tracks are now synced in a multi-cam sequence.
From here, it's the usual steps for preparing multi-cam editing, like you mentioned.
11. Create new sequence, called Multicam_Working_Sequence. Open in timeline.
12. Make sure nesting button is turned on in timeline.
13. Drag Multicam_Source_Sequence into Multicam_Working_Sequence.
14. Right-click the nested sequence>Multi-Camera>Enable.
15. Enable Multi-camera view in Program Monitor's panel menu.
Voila! Took me awhile, but this works.And no 17 angles popping up in the program monitor. Let me know if you'd add (or remove) anything. Thanks, again!

Do I need multicam in order to create a movie from multiple cameras?

Do I need multicam in order to create a movie from multiple cameras? The old fashioned way is just to simply put multiple video clips into multiple video tracks in Final Cut, right? Then I can transition the tracks as I see fit.
Multicam in Final Cut Pro simply improves upon this by hard synching timecodes right?
As an amateur, do I really need multicam features in Final Cut Pro in order to make a movie from multiple camera angles?

Will it make your editing tasks more efficient? Not
likely. Multicam is an advanced feature of FCP. It
requires knowing how most of the application's basic
operations are performed.
I have to disagree with bog in that multicam is all about efficiency and being able to quickly set-up and edit what could normally take a lot longer. But he is totally correct in that it is a strange set-up with some strange behaviors so if you don't know what you're doing and plan accordingly it could take a lot longer and be a lot more frustrating than the 'old fashioned' way.
I think it's also important to note that multi-cam is way more than just the "real time" switching of the multiclip in the viewer as it plays back. If you can take time to learn the ins and outs of multi-cam then you can use some features on some jobs and other features at other times. An amateur can do anything that the FCP software because it's there in front of you so play play play!

Insert source clip after multi-cam editing, how?

hello
I created a sequence using multiple clips and did all my colour corrections. Then I created a new sequence by dragging on new items, sequence is now green. Enabled Mulit-cam editing and started the process.
After i finished, I noticed two clips have blown highlights. Looking at original source I accidentally add two levels. I tried deleting the blown highlight clips and replace them with the original, this did not work too well.
Is there a method I can insert clips after multi-cam editing?
I hope all this makes senses.

Here's how I did it a few times:
1. Add video tracks (and audio tracks if needed) to your timeline to equal the number of cameras you have. Of course if you have more than 4 this will start to get impractical.
2. Edit in your clips from your different camera angles, one to each video track.
3. Double click each clip in turn to get it into the viewer and click the Motion tab. Change its scale to 50%.
4. Select each clip in turn in the timeline and move it to one corner of the canvas. You need to have "image + wireframe" selected in the Canvas popup menu in order to move it with the mouse.
You should now have up to 4 different camera angles shown at the same time in the Canvas, each in its own quadrant.
5. Now the hard part is to align each clip according to time. Hopefully you have some sort of visual cue you can use to align the clips.
6. Then play through the timeline and use the razor tool to cut the clips where you want a camera angle change.
7. Select each camera angle piece you want from each cut you made and change its scale back to 100% and center it at 0,0. Delete the unused clips.
8. If you want, you can move all the clips that remain back to v1 so that you can use transitions between them.
What to do with all the various audio is another question. I usually use the audio from the best source all the way through, only changing to the other camera angle's audio when necessary.

Multi cam editing, first time. Filters.

Hello
Finally getting into multi cam editing. A simple question.
I'm syncing my clips using audio, multiple clips on my time line. Should I do colour correction, transition and effects before enabling Multi-cam?
Or does enabling multi -cam remove everything?
I ask because, i did a small test with a transition, enabled Multi -cam, removed transition.

I would personally only do Colour Correction and other effects first and always do transitional effects after you've done the cut in multi-cam.

IMovie and MPEG-4 editing - like molasses?

I have a home movie DVD from my uncle which was converted from an old VHS video.
I ripped it to MPEG-4 format using Handbrake (it's about 12 minutes long and the MPEG-4 file is about 150MB. I used the XviD codec to do this because it was quicker than the H.264 encoding) and was going to edit it in iMovie to see what could be done. (I had downloaded the XviD codec for playback, but don't know if this is what is being used by Handbrake.) For example, the colours are faded and have a decidedly green tinge to them. However, doing anything with the file is as slow as molasses. It has taken a long time to apply some colour correction to a 20 second clip (enough time for me to browse these forums and compose this post and then some). Even scrubbing through the movie barely worked. Is this normal? Is the fact that I used the XviD codec coming back to haunt me?
Alternatively, would it be better if I just converted it to DV somehow and then worked on it like that? Should I just import my MPEG-4 rip into a DV iMovie project to do the conversion?
(NB I haven't got Quicktime Pro or the MPEG-2 component so haven't been up to whatever multi-step procedures are necessary to extract DVD content yet - is it easier than I imagine? Using freely available software?)

the mp2 compressor inside a DVD is a delivery format, not meant for further processing as editing...
a conversion from VHS directly to iM's native, internal format "dv" would be much better...
a conversion from one lossy format as mp2 to another (as Handbrake's mp4 or Divx or whatever) makes another conversion neccessairy => loss of pic quality...
to import/convert DVDs, you have the following options:
* DVDxDV (free trial, 25$)
* Apple mpeg2 plugin (20$) + Streamclip (free)
* Cinematize >60$
* Mpeg2Works >25$ + Apple plug-in
* Toast6/7 allows converting to dv/import dvd, hit apple-k
* connect your Camera to a DVD-player and copy to tape/use as converter
http://danslagle.com/mac/iMovie/tips_tricks/6010.shtml
http://danslagle.com/mac/iMovie/tips_tricks/6018.shtml
just to mention that:
iMovie is a video edit app meant to work with firewire connected miniDV camcorders

Audio targeting in Multi Camera edits Premiere 5.5

I am editing 6 days worth of a 3 camera multi camera set up from a seminar I shot last month. I am using Premiere Pro 5.5.
I shot the class with the speaker mic'ed with 2 wireless lapel mics: one mic going into Cam 3 left channel, and one going into Cam 2 right channel; the open channel on both catching ambient audio via camera mics. The thought here was I would have some redundancy in the event one mic popped out due to battery issues, or interference, and still have an audio channel to sync to with PluralEyes.
Camera 1 was a wide shot of the front of room, and had 4 choir mics directed at the audience (to pick up questions and such) and one shotgun focusing on the front where the speaker stood (again, for redundancy) running into a mixer, and then into Cam 1 right and left channels.
In Premiere, I line up all the video shots with PluralEyes (or manually) and then nest that sequence into a new multi cam sequence and begin editing.
When nesting the video and audio into a new sequence and turning multicamera editing on, I get the one track of nested video, and the one track of audio.
My issue is how to get the cleaner audio of the instructor, which is on either CAM 2 or 3 (with the lapel mics), onto the track of CAM 1, which is the only track I am able to hear when doing multi cam edits. If I simply copy the instructor audio onto track 1 in the 'source' sequence, I lose the audience replies and sound. But I don't know how to mix other channels onto the main track of the parent sequence (source).
I have worked around this by copying the audio from track 2 or 3 onto track 1 in the original (not nested) sequence and that has worked and I could keep on editing. But now, I need to do a group discussion portion, and need the audio from track 1 as well as the others and I am not sure how to mix them into the main audio track that the multicam process requires.
I hope I am clear in my explanation. In essence, how do you get a mix of tracks to show up onto track 1, the only audio track that seems to be able to be read by the multicam feature in Premiere 5.5?
Many thanks!!
Mark

Since I didn't want to ask a stupid question, I have been trying to do what
you suggested below, but I am not meeting with success (which means I am
doing it wrong :o)
I have made my edits in the multi Camera sequence I created and used the
Multi Cam "enabled" setting (labeled this sequence "Multi"), and then
placed the original multiple camera and tracks sequence (labeled
'source' which was first lined up and synced) into the video 2 track in the
multi cam sequence.
So now I have 2 tracks of the original "Source" sequence in the "multi"
sequence: one cut into shots and one uncut from the original sequence.
But, only the audio is coming in from the first track, even though the
tracks are all activated in the original sequence (nothing muted).
I know I am close, but not sure what I am doing wrong, and the audio from
the tracks is important for the final product.
Thanks again!

Using Audio Sync for Multi-Cam Edits Premiere Pro CC

Hello everyone - I wanted to share some issues I've come across while using Audio to sync multiple camera angles....
For my music video shoot I have two cameras and an external recorder where I capture the audio and then edit in GarageBand or Adobe Audition. The problem I've discovered is that when I sync the clips using audio it will degrade the quality of my finalized audio clip.
Basically, something is happening to the audio clip quality once Premiere completed the synchronization process. I've rendered the video, exported the video etc... But there is still audio quality degradation.
I've compared this with Final Cut Pro X and the Audio in FCP X remains unchanged and is not altered in any way.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?

Update: I just happened happened to have a pair of ath m50s lying around.... put them on and I can see that in the multi cam sequence, I can hear only out of the left ear... once I drag and drop something to my timeline the audio's good again...
Sorry for this question... operator???
I shoot tech videos on YouTube and I edit my own videos, so I guess I am the operator & observer here...
Am shooting a tutorial...
Cam 1 - My Camcorder that shoots the phone
Cam 2 - Actually a screen recorder that records the steps on screen & audio from webcam
Audio - Blue Spark Digital recording to audacity
Now if I merge Cam 1 & Audio or Cam 2 & Audio alls fine... I can check the audio meters and everythings the same as before
But if I create a multicamera sequence then the audio output is about 20% lower (and no Premiere's not using the audio source from Cam1 or 2 here since they are too low and am 100% sure its not either of those)
I guess am messing up something but am unable to identify what..
Syncronize Point - Audio
Track Channel - 1
Sequence Preset - Automatic
Audio Sequence Settings - Camera 1
Audio Channels Preset - Automatic (or Mono since my Blue Spark records in mono)
Camera Names - Enumerate Cameras
Any Idea where am messing up?
Ash
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IMovie Freezing Up When editing Project

I am currently having trouble with iMovie freezing up when editing a movie project. My iMovie HD project is on an external firewire hard-drive (fantom drives 120 GB). Files (.dv) were able to be imported from camera fine, using the external hard-drive, but when working on the project it tends to lock up (spinning beach ball) very often. The only way I can stop iMovie is by holding down the power button and shut the entire machine down. Force quit will not work?
Any help is much appreciated!

A similar problem occured to me, after iMovie 08 initially worked like a charm. When I finally ran out of patience with the endless "force quit - restart" procedure, I called Applecare who suggested the following:
1. Move all com.apple.iMovie.plist files which are located in home/library/preferences to the trash. (You may have several files stemming from previous versions of iMovie)
2. Restart your Mac
3. Open iMovie08. You should now get the same welcome screen as when opening iMovie for the first time and all preferences are set back to factory settings, but all your projects, events etc are still there.
I was told that the preferences I set in previous versions of iMovie were still in the Library/Preferences folder and interfered with the settings for iMovie08, which caused the crashes
I hope this works for you

Imovie cant read camera??

So ive been having problems with my macbook's imovie, lately
it stopped reading my JVC Everio camera, ???? and i jsut reinstalled imovie, and it doesnt quit on me anymore, but it hasnt been able to read my camera, its like it doesnt even know my camera is plugged in, while iphoto opens?? It was working fine , but lately it pooped out on me?
So yah make a better app thats not a bubble gum app, thats why i use final cut express 3.5 to edit...psshhhh..

Hi Tapio
Please try Your Camera on another Mac - to see that the A/D chip is OK
in the Camera. If defect then it behaves just as You describe:
- camera connected
- camera windig forward and backward
- no picture
See if my list can help:
Capture/Import problems:
a) File-Vault is on - turn it off
b) don’t Daisy chain camcorder - external hard disk - Mac
c) Slow hard disk (fragmented: repair permissions, repair hard disk, use a faster hard disk)
d) Something is occupying the CPU/System, like other programs, Internet etc.
e) Bad RAM-chips
f) drop outs on the miniDV-tape - make a camera to camera copy on a tape which You have previous recorded with a time code (dummy recording).
g) FW-wire cable OK?
h) Break in the time-code on the miniDV tape (make a camera to camera copy on a tape which is prerecorded with nothing/anything so that the tape has a time-code from beginning to the end)
i) defective camera TRY IT ON ANOTHER MAC !
j) remove bookmarks in iMovie project
k) Do You have desktop pictures or screen-savers active? Try turning them off.
l) Updating - OS has to be a clean install - not an update eg from X.3.x to X.4.x (no good)
OS X.4.0-2 needs a clean install to work (I use X.3.9)
m) Updating QT and/or other updates (to 7 needs v6 to be cleaned out first)
QT v.7 needs a clean install to work (I use 6.5.2)
n)
Have you tried the crazy fix:
Open GarageBand, play a few notes, close it and reopen iMovie. The camera should import fine now.
Sue/SDillini
o) Trash: com.apple.iMovie.plist and com.apple.iMovie3.plist : files (Xinram)
Yours Bengt W

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