Import of ERwinR8 data models into Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler

Hi! My site want to move off ERwin R8 and use Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler. When will Oracle SQL Developer Data Modeler support the import of ERwin R8data model xml?
Thanks very much, Patty

Hi,
You can add the classic SCOTT schema with EMP/DEPT tables to a 10g Express Edition DB by running this script as SYSTEM:
C:\oraclexe\app\oracle\product\10.2.0\server\RDBMS\ADMIN\scott.sql
Also, you may wish to upgrade to the current version of SQL Developer:
http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/developer-tools/sql-developer/downloads/index.html
As for importing a .dmp file, you import it to the database, not SQL Developer. Please post that question to the appropriate forum.
Regards,
Gary Graham
SQL Developer Team

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(FYI - I no longer work at that company so the contact information not correct anymore).
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no,
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