In bpm(abstract message used in container)

hi expects,
for what purpose we are using abstract message in container).

Hey Rohit,
To give an exact picture of the use of container variables you can refer them as direction less interfaces.
When we Create Message Interfaces We define Category (Inbound, Outbound, Abstract) , Mode (Synchronous , Assynchronous).
Inbound refers to Incoming message to the XI server.
Outbound refers to Outgoing Message from XI server
Abstract:
When the concept of integration process comes into picture it has to refer to interfaces defined in its own s/w component version. It can only refer to Abstract interfaces as they are direction less and when used in integration process they are assigned direction dynamically. EX: if you have a defined a container variable XYZ which refers to some abstract interface ABC and call this XYZ container variable in in receieve step of the int pro then it can as inbound.
For further clarification please refer <a href="http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw04/helpdata/en/78/62373f58502e48e10000000a114084/content.htm">Defining Data Process in Containers</a>
Hope itz clear.
Cheers,
*Raj*
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