InDesign CS5 InCopy
bonjour,
je viens de découvrir InCopy dans un eséminaire InDesign
InCopy semble être adapté au travail collaboratif et ca peut m'intéresser
s'agit il d'un logiciel gratuit ou payant ?
ou quelle solution peut on adopter pour faire rédiger des textes par d'autres sans pour autant aller dans InDesign ?
InCopy : 357 €
C'est un investissement important, mais qui peut s'avérer très rentable dans des flux de travail exigent ou graphistes et éditeurs doivent travailler en même temps où le temps est une contrainte importante.
Vous pouvez aussi créer des liens avec les fichiers textes importés dans InDesign en activant cette fonction depuis le menu GESTION DES FICHIERS dans les préférences. Mais attention à la redistribution du texte et la modification de la mise en forme du texte à chaque mise à jour. Il est important d'utiliser les mêmes styles dans votre document texte et votre document InDesign et de bien formater le texte en amont pour ne pas avoir à retoucher la mise en forme dans InDesign.
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Here is the last crash report:
Process: Adobe InDesign CS5 [2686]
Path: /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
Identifier: com.adobe.InDesign
Version: 7.0.4.553 (7040)
Code Type: X86 (Native)
Parent Process: launchd [191]
Responsible: Adobe InDesign CS5 [2686]
User ID: 501
Date/Time: 2014-04-08 08:36:31.138 +0100
OS Version: Mac OS X 10.9.2 (13C64)
Report Version: 11
Anonymous UUID: BEA65817-1B32-83C0-5494-E72D47AA481E
Sleep/Wake UUID: 6C86D3E4-D918-4DD8-8A2D-39D2AE368ADF
Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGBUS)
Exception Codes: KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE at 0x000000000000002c
VM Regions Near 0x2c:
--> __PAGEZERO 0000000000000000-0000000000001000 [ 4K] ---/--- SM=NUL /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
__TEXT 0000000000001000-0000000000005000 [ 16K] r-x/rwx SM=COW /Applications/Adobe InDesign CS5/Adobe InDesign CS5.app/Contents/MacOS/Adobe InDesign CS5
Thread 0 Crashed:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread
0 dyld 0x8fe66105 ImageLoader::isLinked() const + 11
1 dyld 0x8fe63883 NSLinkModule + 103
2 libdyld.dylib 0x903ca146 NSLinkModule + 88
3 com.adobe.InDesign.Font Manager 0x1101fbc8 TINglue_version + 792
4 com.adobe.InDesign.Font Manager 0x110205cf TIN_Startup + 177
5 com.adobe.InDesign.Font Manager 0x10fa6109 GetPlugIn + 17705
6 ObjectModelLib.dylib 0x010511b1 0x1038000 + 102833
7 ObjectModelLib.dylib 0x01051acb 0x1038000 + 105163
8 ObjectModelLib.dylib 0x01060386 0x1038000 + 164742
9 ObjectModelLib.dylib 0x01070c0d ShuksanInit(IStartupScreen* (*)(), IPlugIn*) + 23101
10 ObjectModelLib.dylib 0x0106c234 ShuksanInit(IStartupScreen* (*)(), IPlugIn*) + 4196
11 com.adobe.InDesign 0x00002822 main + 82
12 com.adobe.InDesign 0x000027a6 start + 54
Thread 1:: Dispatch queue: com.apple.libdispatch-manager
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x91a53992 kevent64 + 10
1 libdispatch.dylib 0x900a98ad _dispatch_mgr_invoke + 238
2 libdispatch.dylib 0x900a9546 _dispatch_mgr_thread + 52
Thread 2:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x91a527ca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e44d8a _pthread_cond_wait + 837
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e45042 pthread_cond_timedwait_relative_np + 47
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9904788d TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 161
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x99013cf2 MPWaitOnQueue + 199
5 PMRuntime.dylib 0x00014130 MemUtils::GetAvailMem() + 288
6 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x990142ce PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e425fb _pthread_body + 144
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e42485 _pthread_start + 130
9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e47cf2 thread_start + 34
Thread 3:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x91a4df7a mach_msg_trap + 10
1 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x91a4d16c mach_msg + 68
2 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x9904452d TS_exception_listener_thread + 138
3 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e425fb _pthread_body + 144
4 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e42485 _pthread_start + 130
5 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e47cf2 thread_start + 34
Thread 4:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x91a527ca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e44d1d _pthread_cond_wait + 728
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e46bd9 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x99047682 TSWaitOnCondition + 128
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x990478a6 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 186
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x99013cf2 MPWaitOnQueue + 199
6 AdobeACE 0x0005a6f1 0x20000 + 239345
7 AdobeACE 0x0005a0ed 0x20000 + 237805
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x990142ce PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e425fb _pthread_body + 144
10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e42485 _pthread_start + 130
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e47cf2 thread_start + 34
Thread 5:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x91a527ca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e44d1d _pthread_cond_wait + 728
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e46bd9 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x99047682 TSWaitOnCondition + 128
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x990478a6 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 186
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x99013cf2 MPWaitOnQueue + 199
6 AdobeACE 0x0005a6f1 0x20000 + 239345
7 AdobeACE 0x0005a0ed 0x20000 + 237805
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x990142ce PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e425fb _pthread_body + 144
10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e42485 _pthread_start + 130
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e47cf2 thread_start + 34
Thread 6:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x91a527ca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e44d1d _pthread_cond_wait + 728
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e46bd9 pthread_cond_wait$UNIX2003 + 71
3 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x99047682 TSWaitOnCondition + 128
4 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x990478a6 TSWaitOnConditionTimedRelative + 186
5 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x99013cf2 MPWaitOnQueue + 199
6 AdobeACE 0x0005a6f1 0x20000 + 239345
7 AdobeACE 0x0005a0ed 0x20000 + 237805
8 com.apple.CoreServices.CarbonCore 0x990142ce PrivateMPEntryPoint + 68
9 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e425fb _pthread_body + 144
10 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e42485 _pthread_start + 130
11 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e47cf2 thread_start + 34
Thread 7:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x91a527ca __psynch_cvwait + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e44d8a _pthread_cond_wait + 837
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e46fa3 pthread_cond_wait + 48
3 com.adobe.amt.services 0x0b866126 C_AMTUISwitchSuppressUpdates + 16768
4 com.adobe.amt.services 0x0b85edb0 C_EULA_SetState + 2164
5 com.adobe.amt.services 0x0b86618c C_AMTUISwitchSuppressUpdates + 16870
6 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e425fb _pthread_body + 144
7 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e42485 _pthread_start + 130
8 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e47cf2 thread_start + 34
Thread 8:
0 libsystem_kernel.dylib 0x91a53046 __workq_kernreturn + 10
1 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e43dcf _pthread_wqthread + 372
2 libsystem_pthread.dylib 0x94e47cce start_wqthread + 30
Thread 0 crashed with X86 Thread State (32-bit):
eax: 0x00000000 ebx: 0x00000006 ecx: 0x000000f8 edx: 0x00038d00
edi: 0x15a82010 esi: 0x8fe6382a ebp: 0xbfffe3d8 esp: 0xbfffe3d8
ss: 0x00000023 efl: 0x00210246 eip: 0x8fe66105 cs: 0x0000001b
ds: 0x00000023 es: 0x00000023 fs: 0x00000000 gs: 0x0000000f
cr2: 0x0000002c
Logical CPU: 1
Error Code: 0x00000004
Trap Number: 14
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0xe002000 - 0xe019ff3 +com.adobe.InDesign.Image Import UI (7.0.0.355 - 0) <EC696635-FAC6-CA59-AA74-388639C0BC6A> /Applications/AdobeThanks for the swift reply Peter.
I was just about to start uninstalling InDesign when your reply came.
Solution 1: Clear the SING Datastore folder - didn't work
Solution 2: Remove the SING component - this worked!
I'll spend the afternoon doublechecking everything works.
Thanks Andrew -
Use InCopy CS4 with InDesign CS5? Or Upgrade to CS 5.0?
Client has InCopy CS4; project is in InDesign CS5.
Can they upgrade to InCopy CS5 (not 5.5)?
I don't imagine they can open an InDesign CS5 file with InCopy CS4, can they?
We're both on Macs
Thanks for your help!Hello Srivatsan,
The differences between downtime minimized and the resource minimized is the first shutdown of the production system. For downtime minimized strategy it's the phase MODPROF_TRANS. And for resource minimized, it's either EU_import, or the START_SHDI_FIRST. But you can restart the soruce system(but not in production mode) after that until MODPROF_TRANS.
The downtime actually is depend on the hardware and the size of the database. It has nothign to do with the application. It's doing the table conversion and changing and keep them consistent.
To be safe, I would recommend you to plan at least a weekend for the downtime (after MODPROF_TRANS) if the database is not too big.
Regards,
Joe -
Indesign CS5 Crashes with Incopy Workflow
I work for a large publishing company that publishes thousands of titles per year. Several divisions use Indesign, but only our Publishing Division uses the Indesign/Incopy workflow, and they are the only division experiencing widespread crashing in CS5. The divisions who do not use Incopy are not crashing. Here's what we know causes the crashing in Indesign CS5:
1. Exporting stories to Incopy. This is a widespread, yet inconsistent problem. One time you crash, the next time you don't. We've done the IDML export to CS4, reopened the files and saved as CS5. This helped with some files, but not others. I talking about hundreds of different publications and files. All people are patched to the newest version. Some are on Snow Leopard and some are not. However, I'm on Snow Leopard and the crashing does happen on my computer too (sometimes). The problem continues. I've found workaround for some problems, but there's no workaround for exporting to Incopy. It's something you have to do in this workflow.
2. Saving an Indesign files with an Incopy story checked out. This will cause a crash almost every time. We've been in the Indesign/Incopy workflow since CS2 and never had this problem in the past. This is an easy fix; just make sure you check in stories before saving, but it's a hard habit for some to break.
These issues have been reported to Adobe, with absolutely NO explanation or resolution. After six years in this workflow, I'm at the point of having to consider abandoning Incopy -- not an easy thing to do in such a large organization.After 2 days straight, I FIGURED IT OUT!!!! I was trying everything, especially related to font book and fonts and resetting prefs, etc...
I narrowed it down to 1 constant variable: it's happening on the 2012 macbook's, so I reset my mac and held command + R and re-installed Lion, then I DID NOT INSTALL THE UPDATE FOR THE MACBOOK 2012. Then I tried exporting a smallest file size pdf with overset text and also tried deleting a page with an object on it and BAM! No blank warning dialog and even more importantly: NO MORE CRASHES!!! Hey, I might not lose all my clients afterall!
got the good ol' warning box we all love and missed:
Again:
- power off mac and turn back on while holding down Command + R (dont do it on an external keyboard just to be safe)
- choose the re-install Lion option (I'm sure there is another way to re-install Lion, this is just the way I did it, not saying its the best or only method)
- DO NOT INSTALL MACBOOK (Mid 2012) Software Update 1.0 - THIS SCREWS ADOBE UP!
After you guys try this please let us know how your system is operating, I am noticing my macbook pro is so slow and when trying to send an email and choosing an email to reply to and attach something,etc.. each click triggers the beachball and I gotta wait a few moments..?? I'm sure we might be missing out on some good updates from not updating to the 1.0 software update....but....
So my final question is:
is this Apple's problem or Adobe's and who needs to do what here??? Why can't we all get along... -
InDesign CS5 and inCopy CS6 workflow problem
I've looked at other discussions and haven't found any to answer the question to our problem.
We are a small publishing company and we have license for roughly 7 inDesign CS5 copies that we purchased a year ago. We contract with outside editors to edit content for us using inCopy. For a year there hasn't been any problems. But any new contracted editor we now sign, which in turn purchases inCopy, we are having trouble with our files talking to one another. Any new contracted editors are only able to purchase CS6 inCopy. This leaves us with the problem of having inDesign CS5 on about 7 or so of our employees machines and 6-8 CS 5.5 InCopy on outside contracted editors and an additional 3-4 contracted editors with CS6 inCopy. When the editors with CS6 inCopy try to open files from our InDesign CS5, either they won’t open at all, or they will open, the editor works on the project for awhile, their program crashes and they are not able to recover (re-open) the files again. Which results in hours of lost work.
Has anyone else come across this problem? Is there a work around or a quick fix. We would hate to have to upgrade to CS6 for all of our in house copies of InDesign and then ask our outside editors what do have inCopy cs5.5 to upgrade to CS6.
If this is the case, when CS7 comes out, and we hire additional outside editors, will we continuously have to go through the process of upgrades again? This is too costly for use and our existing contracted editors.
Any thoughts are assistance would be appreciated.
This is one of the error messages received from an outside contracted editor using inCopy CS6. The file crashed after several hours of work, when the editor went to reopen the file, they received this error. Which looks to be a generic error code that doesn't tell us anything.Hi Ruffus,
Unfortunately different versions of InDesign and InCopy do not work well with each other. Newer versions of the program should be able to open older files, but they cannot save backwards. I am not sure what is causing the errors with the newer versions of InCopy however.
Are you able to open the CS6 InCopy files on your computers? -
I work at a weekly newspaper, and we have been using and InDesign/InCopy workflow for several years. The Reporters use InDesign CS2 (never did get around to installing the CS3 upgrades we bought because at first the computers they use wouldn't handle it, and after the computer upgrades got done all around, no one ever bothered). After the stories are written, the editor reviews them in InCopy, then releases them to the page designers who are now working in InDesign CS3 as part of Standard and Premium Suites.
We are considering upgrading to InDesign CS5, but absolutely NONE of the reporters or the editor needs (or will ever use) the listed improvements included in InCopy CS5. Since there are nine InCopy products in the office, and as everyone knows the economy sucks - especially for PRINTED NEWSPAPERS these days, we really hate to have to upgrade just for upgrades sake.
I have downloaded InDesign CS5 trial to check if our CS3 files will open and work in it, after reading an article published in the Washington Newspaper, a publication put out by the Washington Newspaper Publishers Association, reported that one of the state's newspapers happily upgraded to CS5 and had a nightmare of problems just opening their CS4 files. This has my editor very nervious about us upgrading. So... I'm testing it out, and I can't place, then open and edit our CS3 Incopy Files. I get a message that says "this story needs toa be converted to "InCopy Document" format to edit it. I've saved it in InCopy CS3 to both incx and incd formats, and both receive the error. Has Adobe made simple InCopy files incompatible with InDesign? I can import files from just about everywhere BUT InCopy??? The Sister Program?
Please advise a simple work around, or I'll bet our upgrade is totally put off.
Daria Lacy
The ReflectorBob,
I have to feel that you aren't really reading my posts. While I did mention that our reporters and editor lessentially use InCopy for a word processing program, I did specifically mention in my last post that we use the program for exactly what it was originally intended, for reporters to write and edit, for designers to layout the text, and for writers/and or correction people to get into the files and fix problems - up until the last minute, so yes, we do need to use InCopy, in the manner we were told it was developed for. We don't use it for viewing layouts - that's what InDesign is for.
PLUS, none of our reporters have time, inclination or need to view the layout as it appears in InDesign. If they did, we'd get InDesign for them. They are busy investigating and writing stories, they don't have time to learn even the basics of layout, and frankly, they don't even want to. The one single reporter that is interested has learned some of the basics of InDesign, but she doesn't use it on a regular basis, and dosn't need or want to view the pages. She does need and want to edit a story occasionally even after it's been placed into the layout, but she want's to view it as the same copy she wrote, so she can do it quickly, not as a page layout she has to hunt thru it and every other story on the page to find the problem.
I don't mind Adobe stopping selling older versions - don't blame them at all on that one - if you're buying a new product - go buy the latest and greatest. If the version didn't matter, you wouldn't have to worry if about matching your other versions and you wouldn't need to find an old version. But why BUILD IN obselecense in a PART of a system within just a couple of years. We're using CS3 InDesign, yes, but we bought it just shortly before they came out with CS4. If we'd known when the release would be (we don't track the industry close enough to be checking on when release dates are "expected" to be) we'd have probably waited the 4 months and upgraded to that. But time wise, we haven't had the CS3 THAT long, so I don't go along with the "two versions back is too old" theory.
I'm afraid I don't quite see why the text fit would change from one version to another when the fit is based on font, text size, etc. And that doesn't change, Times Roman, 10.5 point on 10.7 leading... And as far as split/span/balanced column features and mutiple page sizes - those aren't going to affect our work flow at all. All we need is the ability to write text, and edit that text from other desks besides the designers, as well as the designers being able to open the file to fix headline size in InDesign.
As for the reporters getting the trial version and trying it out - did you miss where I mentioned that we provided CS3 to all of them, and pretty much none of them bothered to load it onto their computers??? They don't want any bells and whistles. They want to keep going as they are going.
If they wanted to go to the latest and greatest - it'd wouldnt' be an issue - but they don't need or want it, why should they be forced to upgrade just for the sake of upgrading?
And that also brings up the issue, when we buy those 7 versions that aren't going on computers with InDesign (and the whole rest of the Standard and Design Suites) who wants to bet me that it's gonna take more hard drive space, more ram, and there's a huge potential that it ain't even going to fit on their computers and still leave room for it to think?
And just one other though - just because backwards incompatibility is a fact of life in today's programs - does that make it good or right?
What this basically means, with no specific NEED for the designers to upgrade to InDesign CS5, and the requirement that if they do we'll have to upgrade not only the reporter's versions of InCopy AND most probably, their computers, we will probably put off upgrading and wait another year and a half for CS6.
Daria -
Problem with CS3 InCopy text files and InDesign CS5
I have a large annual magazine that I am developing. There is one section that doesn't change much from year to year and I was hoping to grandfather in the InCopy text files from last year's edition. I've successfully used this strategy the past few years without issue. However, now when I try to check out those text files from last year, I receive the following message "This story needs to be coverted to "InCopy Document" format in order to edit it."
I am running both InDesign CS5 and InCopy CS5 in SL 10.6.4. The previous year's magazine document was in CS3 InDesign format and the text files were in InCopy CS3. Is there some sort of compatibility issue? Is there a specific method for converting them so I can check them out in InDesign? I haven't attempted to check them out in InCopy CS5 yet but I will try that next. But I really need the ability to check out the content via InDesign too.
Thanks in advance.
RobertAFAIK, you're going to actually need to open the INCX files in InCopy and then resave them as ICML file. You can then relink them all in InDesign.
Other choice is killing the InCopy links and then relinking everything.
Best practice would be to finish any job started in CS3 with CS3 and then move to CS5 with new projects.
Bob -
Is InCopy CS6 compatible with InDesign CS5.5?
Hello,
We recently upgraded our production team to CS Design Standard 5.5, however, we now need a handful of copies of InCopy for our editors...
Just wanted to make sure that InCopy CS6 and InDesign CS5.5 were playing nice with each other before making the purchase.
Thanks in advance.I would test it very thoroughly by downloading the trial versions. I would imagine text flow will be a bit different and packaging certainly won’t work.
BTW, what does recently mean? Any purchase of 5.5 after March 26 would entitle you to a free upgrade to CS6.
Bob -
Indesign CS5 Crashes When Exporting Layer to Incopy
I had a designer who emailed me last week stating she was having problems with Indesign CS5 crashing when she exported her text layer to Incopy. I thought it might just be her machine; however, I've experienced the same problem today five times. Is this a known issue? Has anyone else experienced this? I'm in Indesign CS5 (7.0.3).
Corrupt font perhaps?
Bob -
Are InDesign CS5 and InCopy CC compatible?
Does a workflow between InDesign CS5 and InCopy CC work?Or does InCopy CC only work with InDesign CS6 or CC?
I’d be really grateful for your advice - thanks!
KathrinI was looking for answers to a problem and I found this post. Question. Can InCopy CS5 and CC live togheter on the same computer? I'm creating inDesign files using CS5 that I want to use with inCopy.
I cannot open any thing using InCopy CS5 but it all open in CC, Can save and re-open in InDesign CS5...
But I'm the only one in my team using CC. Anyway, any tips would be gratefully appreciated. -
Will InCopy CS6 work with InDesign CS5.5?
Hi folks - I need to use InDesign CS5.5 due to a customer's requirement. I need to use InCopy to delegate copy editing. Looks like the lowest version of InCopy I can get is InCopy CS6. Will InCopy CS6 play nice with InDesign CS5.5?
Thanks in advance.bahhh
Cheers for your reply though. Is there any way of getting InCopy CS5.5 these days? -
InCopy CS4 ok with InDesign CS5.5?
I work at a small newspaper using all Macs and CS4. The writers use InCopy as their word processor, and the designer links their IC files in her ID document. Sometimes an IC linked file will require further editing in IC, but they never use IC to open an ID document.
We want to upgrade the designer and copy editors (who all use InDesign) to CS5.5. I'm wondering if we can squeeze another year out of the writers' PPC Macs, which will not run IC CS5.5, by having them stay on IC CS4. Having to upgrade 15 Macs will be pricy.
I've seen several questions here about using InCopy CS5.5 with older versions of InDesign, but not the other way around. Can InCopy CS4 be used with InDesign CS5.5 in the workflow I have described?
Related question: if InCopy CS5.5 opens an InCopy CS4 doocument, does that change the document so that it can't be opened in InCopy CS4 again? (in case we upgrade the writers incrementally).Just bite the bullet and upgrade everyone. Sometimes the cost for doing something is way less than it is for not doing something.
Bob -
InDesign CS5 and InCopy CS5 on 2 Windows machines, not networked
Background: We’re writing and editing a manuscript that will ultimately go to the designer at our publisher.
I moved the Word file (stinky) into InDesign on my own laptop, where I use InDesign (on this project) as a word processor and type styler.
We just got InCopy for someone else so that he can also edit the file, on his work machine.
We are not networked and will not be networked. So I will export from InDesign to InCopy and give him a copy of the InCopy file on a thumb drive.
Questions:
1. When he has finished his edit, I assume I overwrite my original (unedited) InCopy file with his (edited) one. How do I best get this back into InDesign?
2. After I do that, I would like to sever ties with InCopy for this file. Is this necessary? If not, that’s great. But if so, how do I do so? (I ask because in a test file I did, InDesign displays small mouse-over notes that make me think that InCopy is still somehow in play.)
Thank you.Not advisable. If you need to work remotely create an assignment, package it and either email it or put it on an FTP server for download.
You could also use dropbox for this.
Now, I'll step up on my soapbox for a bit. InCopy workflows are fabulous but I don't advise jumping in without having some training on how to properly handle this workflow.
Bob
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