Installing Pioneer DVR 111D?

Since Apple doesn't appear to be addressing the issue of the Sony drives that won't read old DVDs. I went to NewEgg and got a Pioneer 111D and I am going to install that in the lower bay. How should the jumpers be set on this? I have removed the faceplate, anything else I need to know?

Well after reading many discussion forum posts I bought and installed two of the Pioneer DVR 111Ds, since my Sony units just stopped recognizing blank CDs and DVDs for burning (just as with many others' machines). Well, the Pioneer units worked fine..........for about 15 minutes. I burned several CDs and DVDs, no problems, but then, as with the Sonys after a few months, the Pioneers just stopped recognizing blank, burnable discs.
Is there anything else to try??? Very frustrating.
John
Mac Pro, 16GB ram, dual 3Ghz dual core Intel Mac OS X (10.4.8)

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Installing a Pioneer DVR-111D...

Please bear with me as I have had no experience ever installing optical drives. But I am interested in upgrading my current stock combo drive to one of those spiffy new Pioneer DVR-111Ds that I keep hearing everyone talk about.
However my intial question is, what happens to the front slide door if I install a new drive in my G5? I don't exactly know the technical hardware term for it, but the one that's mac hardware specific and opens before the actual drive bay door slides out. Does that door still operate just as normal with a new drive or do I have to manually open it and disable it?
Lastly, whats up with all the flashing stuff I hear also? Flashing bios i presume? Which is another area in computers I have little experience in.
Any info would be great. Thanks!

Quite a bit about it here
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=1900760#1900760
and more if you enter "111D" in the search box at top right of the forum.
The main point with keeping the silver optical drive gate operating smoothly is to remove the plastic bezel with "DVD", "CD", etc. on it from the front of the tray.
Sometimes the 'stand-offs' can be tricky, but there is some help here
http://www.info.apple.com/usen/cip/pdf/g5/073-0807.pdf
Flashing is mentioned in the first link above, but shouldn't be necessary - esp. if you combo up to 10.4.7
http://www.apple.com/support/downloads/macosxupdate1047comboppc.html
Please post again if any of it isn't clear.

No disc burning with a Pioneer DVR 111D using I-Tunes

I recently installed the Pioneer DVR 111D (rev 1.23) in my G4 550 running under Panther 10.3.9. I had to install the Patchburn to make it work.
Now it burns discs (dvd's) using the Finder, but not using I-Tunes.
Is there a fix?

my DVR 104 died a couple of weeks ago. went to OWC for a 111. it did the same with my Sawtooth at first, then downloaded Patchburn 3. I did notice that when Patchburn was on my Desktop, it wouldn't burn in iTunes, so I dragged the icon to my hard drive. then I went into iTunes and was able to burn from there. that may have been my initial problem. hope this helps.
G4-450MHZ AGP Mac OS X (10.3.9) FCP4

Pointing iDVD to Pioneer DVR-111D?

I've installed a second newer Superdrive in my MDD G4. It is a Pioneer DVR-111D. How do I change the preference in iDVD to burn a file with my new drive? With iDVD open and a disc in the new drive, iDVD only accesses my older Pioneer 104 and asks me to insert a disc.

What version of iDVD are you using? Version 6 has support for non-Apple installed drives. Can the drive burn from iTunes (for example)? Select the new drive in iTunes' preferences and see if iDVD sees the drive. When I was on 10.3.9 this is what I did to get iDVD to see the new drive.
Regards,

Just got my Pioneer DVR-111D, it's flippin' sweet!

Compared to my previous drive (sony DRU-820A) which took 29 minutes (excluding verification) to burn a 4.32GB DVD-R from the Finder at 16x, my new Pioneer DVR-111D burns a 4.32 GB in about 8 1/2 minutes (excluding verification) from the Finder at 16x.
Based on the suggestions from WWJD and Hussein I got the Pioneer 111D from Newegg.com for under $40; it came with the latest firmware 1.06 also!

Good to hear that the drive's working well.
Regards,

Removing door on Pioneer DVR-111d

Just purchased a new DVR-111D drive for my Power Mac and have been trying to remove the tray door without breaking anything. I've read to just "slide it off". Which direction does it slide? Are there any clips holding it on that need to be released? Other suggestions?
Thanks for the help.
Terry
Power Mac G4 1 GHz Dual Mac OS X (10.4.7)

Never mind. I found you push out on the bottom slightly (about 1" in from each end) and then slide the door cover up. Just couldn't see the 2 little clips with it being all black. On to the next step in the morning. Terry

Just installed my new Pioneer DVR-111D, but one more question

The silver gate doesnt go down all the way when it opens...it stays open mid way only because of the open tray, so its bumping up against the bottom of the tray.
Is this normal????

ICarus,
yes, from what you say, this is normal.
The back of the door is a specially shaped "bump" to force the door down no near horizontal. As the tray opens it should push the door down, only making contact where the "bump" meets the bottom of the tray.
If you have other contact, or things jamming, it could be a sign that the DVR is situated just slightly too high or too low in the bay.
Can you confirm that you have removed the strip from the front of the tray ? This is the strip that makes up the "door" while the drive is in its "internal" format.

Pioneer DVR-111D Opinions?

My current Samsung SH-W08A burner (flashed to latest 1S31 firmware from Samsung site) will not recognize Sony +R media (hub says the disc is Ver 1.3 1x-16x) so looks like I need to buy a different drive to work with "modern" media
Last computer had an older (-R only) Pioneer (I think it was either an A5 or A5 model) and it worked well
Has anyone had experience with the Pioneer 111 and 16x media? I don't plan to actually burn at 16x but it would be really nice to have a drive that will even USE the current blank discs!

We have been using nothing but Pioneer since the A04 (DVR-104 is the OEM version of the same drive, as with all Pioneer drives)
We currently have the 107D, 109, 110, 111 and also still an older 105.
The drives that are High Speed capable we just don;t use at 16x, as we never burn faster than 4x for anything (What's the rush!)
Verbatim Data Life Plus, with Advanced Metal Azo dyes.

Disk Utility not recognising Pioneer DVR-111D

I retrofitted this drive into my G4. I'm new to iDVD but have problems.
iDVD does not recognise this drive and keeps opening the original (CD only burning) drive and I can see no way to get it to open the Pioneer drive
iMovie was quite happy to save my movie project to a DVD using this drive.
Disk Utility sees both drives but when I put in a new DVD disc (I've tried several) it doesn't even spin the drive up and so I can't burn a disk image saved by iDVD.
Any suggestions? Thanks
Message was edited by: Roger Sinden

Do you have the MDD?
Did you use Cable Select for both? I assume you have both optical drives on same IDE bus.
End position needs to be master jumper and the middle needs to use slave jumper setting. or both need to use CS,

Can you burn dl disc in iDVD 5 with a Pioneer DVR-111D?

Guess I must have not posted that right the first time.

Is it installed as an internal drive? or and external burner?
iDVD 5 doesn't support external burners (directly).
See also : iDVD: Burning Double-Layer DVDs at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301557 and New SuperDrives support Double-Layer DVD burning at http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=301556

Reasonably new PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D will NOT RECOGNIZE CD's

I bought a new PIONEER DVR-111D drive to replace my old superdrive about 5-6 months ago.
All was fine and good until about 2 weeks ago when it was suddenly unable to recognize CD's. Audio CD's, blank CD's, my highly valued "must insert to play" Halo CD, etc...
I noted this problem originally when trying to burn a playlist on a CD and Toast would pop out an error message about "Wrong Media Type". They worked fine before. This only happens on CD's (and yes, I tried a few different brands) - not DVD's.
DVD's (Dual Layer & -R & +R) read/write/burn fine.
But when I put a CD in the tray and close it, out spits out the disc (and I've tried several different types) about 20 seconds later.
I've tried every option I could find to fix this issue including...
http://www.macworld.com/forums/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=440595&Main= 439419
(trashing com.apple.kernelcaches, trashing Extensions.kextcache and when those suggestiosn didn't work, trashing ~Home/Library/Preferences/CD Info.cidb - all to no avail)
I've uninstalled and then reinstalled Patchburn. Didn't work.
I used Preferential Treatment to fix my User Prefs and System Prefs.
Doesn't help.
Now Toast hangs whenever I try and insert a CD while its running - but when I use Toast's "Recorder Settings" to identify the drive it says CD-RW Yes and CD-R Yes.
I really can't understand why this is happening. Isn't the laser that writes to DVD's the same as the one for CD's? If so, where is this "recognition" issue (can't recognize CD's but has no problem with DVD's) happening?
Here's the System Info for this drive:
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D:
Manufacturer: PIONEER
Model: PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D
Revision: 1.23
Drive Type: CD-RW/DVD-RW
Disc Burning: Vendor Supported
Removable Media: Yes
Detachable Drive: No
Protocol: ATAPI
Unit Number: 0
Socket Type: Internal
I'd be very grateful for any help on this issue.
G4 - Quicksilver Mac OS X (10.3.9)

Hi-
There are two separate laser/laser lens for each of CD and DVD media. You could have lost the CD side. Could also be a blob of dust in the way.
Could try cleaning, or, try and get warranty replacement.
G4AGP(450)Sawtooth, 2ghz PowerLogix, 2gbRAM, RaptorSATAATA, ATI Radeon 9800 Mac OS X (10.4.8) Pioneer DVR-109, 23" ACD, Ratoc USB 2.0, QCam Ultra, Nikon Coolscan

DVR-111D vs Apple Superdrive

I'm planning to ad an internal DVR to replace the CD drive. My current thought is to buy either a Pioneer DVR-111D or an Apple Superdrive, which is really a Pioneer DVR-109 with Apple's native burning capabilities pre-installed. I know that to burn dual layer DVDs I will need to use Patchburn on either of the drives, and that replaces the pre-installed Apple native burning capabilities on the DVR-109.
Does anyone have an opinion on the better choice of the two drives? I know the DVR-111D is a newer model, but will that really be any kind of advantage in my old B&W g3? I really don't know what the limitations of my G3 are in this regard.
Thanks.

I can't comment on the DVR-109 but I have a DVR-111D and couldn't be happier with it. I paid $38 Canadian for it at a PC store. I pluged it in and it just worked, very Apple. I did not install PatchBurn. It shows up in System Profiler/Hardware/Disk Burning as follows:
PIONEER DVD-RW DVR-111D
Firmware Revision: 1.19
Interconnect: ATAPI
Burn support: Yes (unsupported)
Profile Path: None
Cache: 2000 KB
Reads DVD: Yes
CD-Write -R, -RW
DVD-Write -R, -RW, +R, +RW, +R DL
Burn Underrun Protection CD: Yes
Burn Underrun Protection DVD: Yes
Write Stratagies: CD-TAO, CD-SAO, CD-Raw, DVD-DAO
I haven't yet burned a double-layer DVD yet but the format shows up under DVD-Write and the option shows up when choosing to burn in Toast. I have burned with both iTunes (music CDs) and Disk Utility (DVD images)--no PatchBurn required. It boots OS install disks, and is one of the few bits of hardware that you can get at an ElCheapo PC store that you can put into an Apple. I tried several Apple stores, none of them carried them. They had lots of $150 LaCie drives though (hmmmm). Don't tell anyone but there is no difference between the 111-D and the Superdrive, except for the price. Besides adding more memory to your G3 it's the most usefull/cost effective piece of hardware you can put into a G3.
Burn on....
P.S. It works in OS 9.2.2 and 8.6 too (no DVD read in 8.6 just CD)
G3 B&W/300mhz/1024M Mac OS X (10.4.7) Pioneer DVR-111D, PPL USB 2.0 + FireWire PCI card, Sonnet ATA-66 IDE, Maxtor DiMax-10 160 Gig HD
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New Pioneer DVR-110 installed, "patchburned", BUT drive won't stay closed.

Have had some good advice on how to intall a new DVD/CD drive, but after installing a New Pioneer DVR-110 (I thought succesfully) on my G4, and downloading Patchburn for Panther, the DVD drive now won't function as the computer keeps ejecting or opening the drive tray.
After installing the drive, I installed Patchburn, and Toast did recognize the drive. I then tried to verify disc permissions on the computer and it kept getting hung up during repair/verify saying it lost connection with the drive manager. Tried Onyx to repair/verify permissions and it too gets hung up. (Had to force quit)
Any advice on how to get the drawer of the DVD drive to stay closed and what else I need to do to get it working?... Alas I can not even reinstall my original OSX software now as I can't boot from the disc drive since it won't stay closed.
Thanks, Rob
G-4 Quicksilver Mac OS X (10.3.9)

You can verify the closeness by opening the empty drive door with the KB and then hold the door open and close drawer with the KB.

Beige G3 AIO with Pioneer DVR-110D not booting OS X 10.2 retail install CD

for some reason my Pioneer DVR-110D wont boot the 10.2 retail install cd's i have it will boot the OS 9.2.1 retail install cd's just fine. the only way i can boot the OS X install cd's is if i hold the command-control-power key's for 5 second's after the normal attempt to boot the cd normaly.
but during the file copying during the install it stall's out. the only way i can install OS X is if i put the orignal 24x cd-rom drive and then it will boot normaly and install normaly.
the same goes with trying to install tiger useing Xpostfacto4 but it will boot into the installer with no problem but durring the install the Pioneer will stall and will go no further during the copy prosses i can however install useing the orignal cd-rom drive
but after i get tiger installed i cant mount any disk's with either the normal cd-rom or the pioneer DVR-110D and the same goes with my other AIO i have. I dont have the disk mounting problem in OS X 10.2 or 10.2.8.
also i figured out why i was having a wake up freeze in OS 9.2.2 with the Pioneer DVR-110D there is a extention conflict happening some where with the apple cd/dvd driver extention. i disables the apple cd/dvd driver extention and rebooted amd put the system to sleep and it woke up fine but it wouldent mount any disk's cause of the extention being disabled so i rebooted and back to the wakeup freeze.
the only way to get around the wakup freeze i was having in OS 9.2.2 is to open the energy saver window and set the hdd to never fall asleep and have the monitor the only thing that sleep's and let the system idle to sleep.
sorry for the long post guy's/and gal's

From what I've read, many beiges had problems booting the 10.2 installer. I didn't have any problems booting 10.2 installer with this drive and it installed perfectly fine. However, after it installed, I couldn't actually boot into the OS, I got as far as the gray screen and it stopped and wouldn't go any further. I could boot the 10.4.3 disc as well, but as you said, the installation always stalled at "installing base system" and would go no further. I installed it by pulling my HD and hooking it up in my dad's G4, then brought it back to my computer. That worked great and 10.4.3 ran wonderfully. I just last night upgraded to 10.4.4 and it is snappy as well, however, I still have the problem with the DVR-110D. My drive will not copy large files (over 5MB) from a disc to the HD. I can mount discs and read them, but after a bit of time, it stops working entirely and won't mount discs at all. I have not tried the beta version of xpostfacto, I thought I had that version until I checked it just now. Perhaps a trip to the site to download the beta is in order. Also, the drive works great under 9.2.2, just as yours does, so I know it is not a drive error and has to be something with the Beige G3 architecture and Tiger, something is not communicating correctly. I've posed the question previously (which wasn't answered yet) about whether or not an 80 wire ATA cable would make a difference? Perhaps the 66mhz bus speed is not sufficient to have info flow from the drive to the HD? I don't know and I'm getting frustrated because I know this is a good drive! Hope we can figure it out!
Mark

Installing an Apple/Pioneer DVR-109AB 'SuperDrive'

Other World Computing has the Apple/Pioneer DVR-109AB 'SuperDrive' for $30 right now. Since my parents' iMac Flat Panel's drive is broken, this seems like a great way to replace it. One question, though - can I install this drive without messing up the pretty bezel/door on the front of the iMac?
If only this would work in my G5 I'd give them my 8x Superdrive...

That should be fine but you may have to remove the new black/beige bezel and use the smaller on on the current drive and a spot of glue.
It's pretty fiddly to work inside an iMac G4 so you must be cautious. Always take anti-static precautions. Here are three options for guiding you through the procedure:
MacWorld
xlr8yourmac
Service Manuals
I've also taken a fair few photos which you can find here.
I'd advise reading the reports on the xlr8yourmac's drive database so get other people's experiences first.
You must replace the Thermal Paste when you close the iMac up or it will overheat.
It's probably worth replacing the PRAM Battery whilst you're in there as these have a finite life (once they fail to re-charge you may start to run in to snags - it's only a $5 part). You might also give consideration to upgrading the 'factory' RAM slot.
regards
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