Internal & external Domain the same Cannot resolve Website
Since moving my website from internal to a external hosting provider, I cannot browse the website from inside my LAN
I have created the necessary A record with www and added the Public IP for the my website.
I have created a Delegation for the Zone in DNS and set it to my SOA dns server reported to me because the above would work.
I have seen this setup many times in other networks but i canot figure this one out.
I verified there was no RDNS record anymore from the ISP as that was causing a issue before
From PC outside the LAN
C:\>dig -x 64.129.116.22
; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> -x 64.129.116.22
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 138
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;22.116.129.64.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
22.116.129.64.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN PTR mail.evolutionimpressions.com.
22.116.129.64.in-addr.arpa. 86400 IN PTR ftp.evolutionimpressions.com.
;; Query time: 93 msec
;; SERVER: 24.92.226.40#53(24.92.226.40)
;; WHEN: Tue May 08 07:11:29 2012
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 105
C:\>dig evolutionimpressions.com a
; <<>> DiG 9.3.2 <<>> evolutionimpressions.com a
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 1120
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;evolutionimpressions.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
evolutionimpressions.com. 36945 IN A 184.168.26.1
;; Query time: 21 msec
;; SERVER: 24.92.226.40#53(24.92.226.40)
;; WHEN: Tue May 08 07:13:18 2012
;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 58
From the DNS Server
C:\>ipconfig /all
Windows IP Configuration
Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : EIS03
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . : evolutionimpressions.com
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : evolutionimpressions.com
Ethernet adapter Local Area Connection:
Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Broadcom BCM5708C NetXtreme II GigE (NDIS
VBD Client)
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-B9-BC-3D-1E
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
IP Address. . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.5
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.177
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 172.16.1.5
C:\>ping www.evolutionimpressions.com
Pinging www.evolutionimpressions.com [184.168.26.1]
with 32 bytes of data:
Reply from 184.168.26.1: bytes=32 time=67ms TTL=59
Reply from 184.168.26.1: bytes=32 time=66ms TTL=59
Reply from 184.168.26.1: bytes=32 time=61ms TTL=59
Reply from 184.168.26.1: bytes=32 time=89ms TTL=59
Ping statistics for 184.168.26.1:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 61ms, Maximum = 89ms, Average = 70ms
C:\>nslookup
Default Server: eis03.evolutionimpressions.com
Address: 172.16.1.5
> www.evolutionimpressions.com
Server: eis03.evolutionimpressions.com
Address: 172.16.1.5
Name: www.evolutionimpressions.com
Address: 184.168.26.1
>
I can make the users put the www in front of the domain name but i cannot for the life of me figure out why this isnt working...
Running either an nslookup or a DIG on my part shows the following:
==========================================
c:\DIG>dig evolutionimpressions.com
; <<>> DiG 9.8.0 <<>> evolutionimpressions.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 37852
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;evolutionimpressions.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
evolutionimpressions.com. 86400 IN A 184.168.26.1
==========================================
c:\DIG>dig www.evolutionimpressions.com
; <<>> DiG 9.8.0 <<>>
www.evolutionimpressions.com
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 55452
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.evolutionimpressions.com. IN A
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.evolutionimpressions.com. 86400 IN
CNAME evolutionimpressions.com.
evolutionimpressions.com. 86400 IN A 184.168.26.1
==========================================
A reverse on 64.129.116.22:
c:\DIG>dig -x 64.129.116.22
; <<>> DiG 9.8.0 <<>> -x 64.129.116.22
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 34360
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;22.116.129.64.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
22.116.129.64.in-addr.arpa. 86305 IN PTR
ftp.evolutionimpressions.com.
22.116.129.64.in-addr.arpa. 86305 IN PTR mail.evolutionimpressions.com.
==========================================
A reverse on 184.168.26.1
c:\DIG>dig -x 184.168.26.1
; <<>> DiG 9.8.0 <<>> -x 184.168.26.1
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 52143
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;1.26.168.184.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR
;; ANSWER SECTION:
1.26.168.184.in-addr.arpa. 3600 IN PTR p3nlhg290c1290.shr.prod.phx3.secureserver.net.
==========================================
In summary, it appears 184.168.26.1 is the record for both
http://evolutionimpressions.com/ and
www.evolutionimpressions.com.
But I noticed, is that when I typed in
www.eveolutionimpressions.com, it redirects it to
http://evolutionimpressions.com/ .
This is because www.evolutionimpressions.com is a
CNAME for http://evolutionimpressions.com/ (without the www).
Therefore that concludes me to believe that's why internally you can't access the site. This is because no matter what you do, since evolutionimpressions.com, and the CNAME is always reverting it
http://evolutionimpressions.com, and your AD name is
evolutionimpressions.com, you are always accessing one of the internal DCs' LdapIpAddress. Note: each DC creates this record. You can't alter it!
How do you get around that? Not so simple. What I would normally suggest (disregarding the security implications), is to install IIS on each DC, then in the default website properties, create a redirect to
www.evolutionimpressions.com. HOWEVER, because the website is always redirecting to
http://evolutionimpressions.com due to the CNAME, it won't work, and will create a redirect loop.
I haven't seen this scenario before.
The simple fix I would believe and suggest to ask whomever created the public records for the site to
eliminate the CNAME and simply create two A records:
evolutionimpressions.com A 184.168.26.1
www.evolutionimpressions.com A 184.168.26.1
Then either always only use www in front of it, or do the IIS trick/workaround above. Here'a little tidbit - in the browser, simply type in
evolutionimpressions (without www or com), and then hit CTRL & <enter>, and the browser will add the WWW and COM to it.
Here's more on that DC IIS trick/workaround:
Can't Access Website with Same Name (Split Zone or no Split Brain)
Published by Ace Fekay, MCT, MVP DS on Sep 4, 2009 at 12:11 AM 1278 0
For no WWW in front of URL, scroll down to "So you don't want to use WWW in front of the domain name"
http://msmvps.com/blogs/acefekay/archive/2009/09/04/split-zone-or-no-split-zone-can-t-access-internal-website-with-external-name.aspx
Ace Fekay
MVP, MCT, MCITP EA, MCTS Windows 2008/R2, Exchange 2007 & Exchange 2010, Exchange 2010 EA, MCSE & MCSA 2003/2000, MCSA Messaging 2003
Microsoft Certified Trainer
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
Complete List of Technical Blogs: http://www.delawarecountycomputerconsulting.com/technicalblogs.php
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