IPhoto '09 Places

Hi,
I've a number of places set in my iPhoto '09 library, some manually and some though the iPhone location tracking on photos. I've noticed that a lot of my photos are being placed into the wrong place, or being very generic about their location. For example, on of the images I took on my iPhone shows as 'England' that's quite a large area! Fair enough this was out in the country side, so there may not be much information about the location, but it's still a poor description of the location.
The ability to see where my photos have been taken on a map is brilliant, however it just doesn't work how it should. I've taken numerous photos around my old home town of Sheffield and tagged some manually and others through the iPhone, the manual ones show the true location of where I took them, a certain street for example, however the iPhone and some I've tried with a geo-tagger just show as Sheffield, I was under the impression that Places was to allow you to pinpoint where photos were taken, but just saying its from a certain city really doesn't help.
Is there a way to refine the iPhoto places, like iMovies 'world locations' file, or is this just down to the google maps service iPhoto '09 is tied to. Does iPhoto '11 improve this situation at all?
Thanks

Jerry
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select a group of photos and right click (control click) on one and select the get info command - enter the "place" information and it will apply to all selected photos
Or
in event view click on the "i" in the lower right hand corner of an event - enter the "place" information and it will apply to all photos in the event
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