Is Arch's 2.6.29.2 really 2.6.29.2?

Hi.
I have a question - is kernel26-2.6.29.2 package really a 2.6.29.2 kernel?
uname says it is 2.6.29, also PKGBUILD uses 2.6.29 sources.
I have compared 2.6.29.2 vanilla with 2.6.29 + Arch patches, and they seem different (not only in parts that are Arch specific).
So how does the kernel26 versioning work like?

Allan wrote:
http://projects.archlinux.org/?p=linux- … ;a=summary
Look at the files PATCHCFG and gen_kernel_patch. It clearly downloads the kernel 2.6.29.x patch and applies the Arch patches to it.
This is clever since you if you want to compile Kernel .29.2 and then new kernel .29.3 you don't have to download whole kernel again. The base kernel .29 is enough and result after patching is the same.
Edit: Typo
Last edited by EVRAMP (2009-05-09 14:42:45)

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You fool!
Let me address some of your so called issues!
By some, I mean all..
By issues, I mean..issues.
neotuli wrote:- People stop posting "i'm leaving" threads. They make excellent bathroom reading, and I'm afraid I just can't continue to use Arch if I run out of things to read on the crapper. I really like Arch, but Ubuntu has a plethora of whiny "i'm leaving threads" that could easily satisfy my bathroom needs, but I really like Arch so I'd rather not resort to that.
This will never happen. People will always provide good bathroom reading material, If not, I was told by someone at work the other day that, "the internet has books." This was quite the revelation, but it has proven to be true so far.
- People find the forum search button. If people found that, there wouldn't be nearly as much mindless repetative content to read around here, and that'd just make things boring as heck. I'm afraid if I was bored by original content instead of the repetative kind, I just couldn't stand to stick around. I really hope people never find that button, I really like Arch, I'd hate to leave.
This will never happen. The search button has been strategically hidden for a while now. Every day we make the font just a little bit smaller, in the hopes that nobody notices, and we can just make the search link disappear altogether.
- I ever contribute anything useful. I'm afraid I just wouldn't fit in with this community anymore if I started trying to solve problems for myself and contributing useful ideas and code or documentation. If that ever happened, I think I'd have to go elsewhere.
This will never happen. Wait..it might.. but... no.
It cannot be allowed. Who would be stupid enough to do work for free?!
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Somehow this ties into the previous bullet point. Somehow.
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I certainly did. In fact, now I question everything!
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- pants. The internet doesn't require them.. why do stores?
Summary: You daft sack of hammers. If you don't not not dislike arch, then you shouldn't don't not go use a different distro!

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snd_seq 49968 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 8332 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_hwdep 8964 1 snd_hda_intel
snd_pcm_oss 40192 0
snd_pcm 69636 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm_oss
snd_timer 21384 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd_page_alloc 9224 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
snd_mixer_oss 16512 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd 50724 9 snd_hda_intel,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_pcm,snd_timer,snd_mixer_oss
soundcore 8160 1 snd
The *weirdest* part about this is on my first boot, it didn't work at all and I didn't even try to get it to work yet. I installed X it worked, I rebooted for something completely unrelated. I booted and sound magically worked! Not complaining, I was listening to music but then I rebooted for another non-sound-related issue, and now the sound is broken again. I can't figure this out at all! Anyone have any ideas?

Well, I found out that snd-ac97-codec snd-au8820 snd-ad1816a snd-au8830 snd-ad1848 snd-aw2 snd-ad1848-lib snd-azt2320 snd-ad1889 snd-azt3328 snd-adlib snd-bt87x snd-ak4114 snd-ca0106 snd-ak4117 snd-cmi8330 snd-ak4xxx-adda snd-cmipci snd-ali5451 snd-cs4231 snd-als100 snd-cs4231-lib snd-als300 snd-cs4232 snd-als4000 snd-cs4236 snd-atiixp snd-cs4236-lib snd-atiixp-modem snd-cs4281 snd-au8810 snd-cs46xx Nothing "hda" related.
UPDATE: According to UPDATE: Turns out I do hda-intel: no codecs initialized
So, it seems like I need Last edited by I need the module "snd-hda-intel" -- I think. But it doesn't seem to be on my system despite documentation saying it's still available in 2.6.27. Do I really need to recompile my kernel just for this one module? I'd really prefer not to have to deal with that. If I do "modprobe snd-" and press tab twice, it shows me this list of modules:
snd-cs5530 snd-es1688-lib snd-ice1712 snd-mixart snd-oxygen-lib snd-sb8-dsp snd-usb-caiaq
snd-cs5535audio snd-es18xx snd-ice1724 snd-mona snd-pcsp snd-sbawe snd-usb-lib
snd-cs8427 snd-es1938 snd-ice17xx-ak4xxx snd-mpu401 snd-pcxhr snd-sc6000 snd-usb-usx2y
snd-darla20 snd-es1968 snd-indigo snd-mpu401-uart snd-pdaudiocf snd-seq-midi snd-util-mem
snd-darla24 snd-es968 snd-indigodj snd-mtpav snd-portman2x4 snd-seq-midi-emul snd-via82xx
snd-dt019x snd-fm801 snd-indigoio snd-mts64 snd-pt2258 snd-seq-virmidi snd-via82xx-modem
snd-dummy snd-gina20 snd-intel8x0 snd-nm256 snd-rawmidi snd-serial-u16550 snd-virmidi
snd-echo3g snd-gina24 snd-intel8x0m snd-opl3-lib snd-riptide snd-sgalaxy snd-virtuoso
snd-emu10k1 snd-gus-lib snd-interwave snd-opl3-synth snd-rme32 snd-sis7019 snd-vx-lib
snd-emu10k1-synth snd-gusclassic snd-interwave-stb snd-opl3sa2 snd-rme96 snd-soc-core snd-vx222
snd-emu10k1x snd-gusextreme snd-korg1212 snd-opl4-lib snd-rme9652 snd-sonicvibes snd-vxpocket
snd-emu8000-synth snd-gusmax snd-layla20 snd-opl4-synth snd-sb-common snd-sscape snd-wavefront
snd-emux-synth snd-hdsp snd-layla24 snd-opti92x-ad1848 snd-sb16 snd-tea575x-tuner snd-ymfpci
snd-ens1370 snd-hdspm snd-maestro3 snd-opti92x-cs4231 snd-sb16-csp snd-tea6330t
snd-ens1371 snd-hifier snd-mia snd-opti93x snd-sb16-dsp snd-trident
snd-es1688 snd-i2c snd-miro snd-oxygen snd-sb8 snd-usb-audio
this and alsaconf (I checked /etc/modprobe.d/sound) I *do* need the "snd-hda-intel" module. I'm running the standard arch kernel from pacman, do I really have to recompile my kernel...?
have the module I need. I don't know why it didn't show up. In other news, I get a new dmesg error!
to load snd_hda_codec... but that was "merged" with snd_hda_intel back around 2.6.23. Any ideas?
Nathan (2008-12-27 22:02:48)

Can't get any video driver working (X-Server)

Hi everybody (and thx for reading this),
I'm about to install Arch Linux 64 Bit on a new machine, an Acer Aspire 8935G. I installed Arch Linux on several plattforms over the last months with help from the brilliant Wiki-Guide. Unfortunatley I can't figure out how to get the X-Server running this time, so I need a little (???) help here to point me in the right direction.
System is up and running. Graphic Card is a ATI Mobility Radeon HD 4670 (and an Mobile Intel GM45). What I did so far was installing the radeonhd driver first (and later others, because radeonhd wouldn't work) and configure X with:
# Xorg - configure
Which resulted in a message of the X Protocol:
List of video drivers:
radeonhd
intel
ati
radeon
fbdev
vesa
after that I installed and ran HAL, to avoid problems with input hotplugging.
Finally, to test the configuration:
# X -config /root/xorg.conf.new
(EE) RADEONHD(0): rhdAtomGetDDCIndex: GPIO_DDC Index 5 exceeds maximum 5
(EE) RADEONHD(0): AtomBIOS returned 3 Grey Levels
(EE) RADEONHD(0): AtomBIOS returned 3 Grey Levels
(EE) RADEONHD(0): rhdAtomLvdsDDC: unknown record type: c
(EE) RADEONHD(0): ParseTable said: CD_INVALID_OPCODE
(EE) RADEONHD(0): atomSetBacklightFromBIOSScratch: rhtAtomDigTransmitterControl(atomTransEnable) failed.
^C
Playing around with vesa, intel and fbdev didn't bring me any further. Vesa and Intel led to a black screen without responding keys (hard reset is necessary every time) and FBDEV led to a error message:
Primary device is not PCI
(EE) FBDEV(0): FBIOBLANK: Invalid argument
Maybe it's an issue with the integrated full hd monitor, because of the DDC-Message, but googling around didn't help for the moment. The hardware works with Linux, Mandriva 32-bit-Image ran out of the box with X-Server and KDE 4.2. But I would prefer an Installation of Arch Linux with the software, I really need and want.
I will try to add the xorg.conf later on as I'm writing this on an other machine.
Thx in advance for the help!
EDIT (xorg.conf):
Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "X.org Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
# Screen 1 "Screen1" RightOf "Screen0"
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection
Section "Files"
ModulePath "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/misc"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/TTF"
FontPath "/usr/share/fonts/Type1"
EndSection
Section "Module"
Load "dri2"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "dbe"
Load "record"
Load "extmod"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "kbd"
EndSection
Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "auto"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5 6 7"
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
EndSection
#Section "Monitor"
# Identifier "Monitor1"
# VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
# ModelName "Monitor Model"
#EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "AccelMethod" # [<str>]
#Option "offscreensize" # [<str>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "ignoreconnector" # [<str>]
#Option "forcereduced" # [<bool>]
#Option "forcedpi" # 
#Option "useconfiguredmonitor" # [<bool>]
#Option "HPD" # <str>
#Option "NoRandr" # [<bool>]
#Option "RROutputOrder" # [<str>]
#Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
#Option "TVMode" # [<str>]
#Option "ScaleType" # [<str>]
#Option "UseAtomBIOS" # [<bool>]
#Option "AtomBIOS" # [<str>]
#Option "UnverifiedFeatures" # [<bool>]
#Option "Audio" # [<bool>]
#Option "HDMI" # [<str>]
#Option "COHERENT" # [<str>]
Identifier "Card0"
Driver "radeonhd"
VendorName "ATI Technologies Inc"
BoardName "Unknown Board"
BusID "PCI:1:0:0"
EndSection
Section "Device"
### Available Driver options are:-
### Values: : integer, <f>: float, <bool>: "True"/"False",
### <string>: "String", <freq>: "<f> Hz/kHz/MHz"
### [arg]: arg optional
#Option "NoAccel" # [<bool>]
#Option "SWcursor" # [<bool>]
#Option "ColorKey" # 
#Option "CacheLines" # 
#Option "Dac6Bit" # [<bool>]
#Option "DRI" # [<bool>]
#Option "NoDDC" # [<bool>]
#Option "ShowCache" # [<bool>]
#Option "XvMCSurfaces" # 
#Option "PageFlip" # [<bool>]
Identifier "Card1"
Driver "intel"
VendorName "Intel Corporation"
BoardName "Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller"
BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "Card0"
Monitor "Monitor0"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
Modes "1024x768" "1280x1024"
EndSubSection
EndSection
Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen1"
Device "Card1"
Monitor "Monitor1"
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 1
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 4
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 8
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 15
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 16
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Viewport 0 0
Depth 24
EndSubSection
EndSection
Last edited by ewigkeit (2009-08-12 12:36:46)

zenlord wrote:You do know that with the latest xserver-xorg your xorg.conf is of less relevance?
Yes, I know. I also tried to get it working without an preconfigured xorg.conf. You know it... yeah... results in a black screen ;-).
zenlord wrote:And are you using the latest software? I installed Debian stable on a G45-chipset with intel graphics last week and I had to use at least the 2.6.2-driver IIRC, or upon loading the (old) driver, the DVI-port was disconnected and I was left with a black screen, but otherwise working install
Yesterday, I experimented with the Intel driver, because I found out that Mandriva also uses them, not fglrx like I thought. First I tried the xf86-video-intel. Have given me the typical X-Server feeling at start, probing the monitor I guess, than the backlight of the screen is on but the screen itself stays black. Fells like it's working, just the monitor is not respondig. Tried 1001 different screen settings, but the problem can't get solved. The same phenomenon can be experienced when usen the latest Intel-Git-Drivers from AUR. Last message of Xorg was: Setting up DRM Master or something like that. I will go and check it tonight again and report back.
zenlord wrote:The Ati-drivers are not supported anymore, are you sure your chips is not too new for the opensource drivers?
Like AdrenalineJunky stated radeonhd supports the card. I read about it yesterday.
zenlord wrote:And if even vesa is failing you, than there's more to it.
Where can I sign that? ;-)
zenlord wrote:Have you tried vga for a driver?
Not yet, will be done.
zenlord wrote:What is the output of
# cat /var/log/X.0.log | grep EE
Vesa-Setup
X.Org X Server 1.6.3
Release Date: 2009-7-31
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux 2.6.30-ARCH i686
Current Operating System: Linux acer8935 2.6.30-ARCH #1 SMP PREEMPT Fri Jul 31 18:10:38 UTC 2009 i686
Build Date: 14 August 2009 11:31:10AM
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Aug 17 18:43:33 2009
(++) Using config file: "/root/xorg.conf.new"
(==) ServerLayout "X.org Configured"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen0" (0)
(**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor0"
(**) | |-->Device "Card0"
(**) |-->Screen "Screen1" (1)
(**) | |-->Monitor "Monitor1"
(**) | |-->Device "Card1"
(**) |-->Input Device "Mouse0"
(**) |-->Input Device "Keyboard0"
(==) Automatically adding devices
(==) Automatically enabling devices
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/TTF" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/Type1" does not exist.
Entry deleted from font path.
(**) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/100dpi:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/75dpi:unscaled,
built-ins
(**) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
(WW) AllowEmptyInput is on, devices using drivers 'kbd', 'mouse' or 'vmmouse' will be disabled.
(WW) Disabling Mouse0
(WW) Disabling Keyboard0
(II) Loader magic: 0xe40
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 5.0
X.Org XInput driver : 4.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(II) Loader running on linux
(--) using VT number 7
(!!) More than one possible primary device found
(--) PCI: (0:0:2:0) 8086:2a42:1025:019f Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller rev 7, Mem @ 0xf0000000/4194304, 0xd0000000/268435456, I/O @ 0x00001800/8
(--) PCI: (0:1:0:0) 1002:9488:1025:019f ATI Technologies Inc rev 0, Mem @ 0xc0000000/268435456, 0xf0400000/65536, I/O @ 0x00002000/256, BIOS @ 0x????????/131072
(WW) Open ACPI failed (/var/run/acpid.socket) (No such file or directory)
(II) No APM support in BIOS or kernel
(II) System resource ranges:
[0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
[4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
[5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(II) "extmod" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dbe" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "glx" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "record" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) "dri" will be loaded by default.
(II) "dri2" will be loaded. This was enabled by default and also specified in the config file.
(II) LoadModule: "dri2"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri2.so
(II) Module dri2: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DRI2
(II) LoadModule: "fgl.renamed.libglx"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module fgl.renamed.libglx
(II) UnloadModule: "fgl.renamed.libglx"
(EE) Failed to load module "fgl.renamed.libglx" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(==) AIGLX enabled
(II) Loading extension GLX
(II) LoadModule: "record"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//librecord.so
(II) Module record: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.13.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension RECORD
(II) LoadModule: "fgl.renamed.libdri"
(WW) Warning, couldn't open module fgl.renamed.libdri
(II) UnloadModule: "fgl.renamed.libdri"
(EE) Failed to load module "fgl.renamed.libdri" (module does not exist, 0)
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
(II) Loading extension X-Resource
(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdbe.so
(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "dri"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
(EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libdri.so
(II) UnloadModule: "dri"
(EE) Failed to load module "dri" (loader failed, 7)
(II) LoadModule: "vesa"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//vesa_drv.so
(II) Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.0, module version = 2.2.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) VESA: driver for VESA chipsets: vesa
(II) Primary Device is:
(II) resource ranges after probing:
[0] -1 0 0xffffffff - 0xffffffff (0x1) MX[b]
[1] -1 0 0x000f0000 - 0x000fffff (0x10000) MX[b]
[2] -1 0 0x000c0000 - 0x000effff (0x30000) MX[b]
[3] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x0009ffff (0xa0000) MX[b]
[4] -1 0 0x0000ffff - 0x0000ffff (0x1) IX[b]
[5] -1 0 0x00000000 - 0x00000000 (0x1) IX[b]
(II) Loading sub module "vbe"
(II) LoadModule: "vbe"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libvbe.so
(II) Module vbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.1.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) Loading sub module "int10"
(II) LoadModule: "int10"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules//libint10.so
(II) Module int10: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.6.3, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 5.0
(II) VESA(0): initializing int10

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