Is The New Forum Design In Transition?

I've got to say, the forum just feels broken as it is.
And I'm not just talking about little formatting glitches needing cleaning up.  I'm talking about the fairly significant number of features that have gone missing, such as listing who a reply is to, listing the post and points counts, etc.
More broken than it did.
My question is this: 
Is what we see what we're going to get, or are we in transition to something better?
-Noel

Dave Merchant wrote:
Yes, and yes!
Thanks, Dave - I guess.  It's the terminology that bothers me I think...  This is not just a "re-skin".
"Skin" implies colors, shapes, sizes - but not functionality.
This recent change is therefore more than a "re-skin" of the old forum.  I have to say, I don't mind the colors and layout - it's usable.  And I understand the need for modernization, though I didn't see a real need to change the look before getting the functionality working better.
We seem to have entered the era of UI simplification.  Not long ago someone somewhere came up with the term "cognitive overload", which always seemed like a backhanded way of saying "most folks are too stupid to deal with a lot of stuff on the screen at once", and so everyone began simplifying their user interfaces.  Hell, Microsoft even stopped making their Windows OS actually do windows.  Kind of a slap in the face to people who yearn for more and bigger monitors just so they can get more stuff up there for use "at a glance".
I urge everyone to think of the derivation of Albert Einstein's immortal comment:
"Make everything as simple as possible, but no simpler."
-Noel

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