ITunes 7, "determining song colume" and iVolume

I'm interested in installing iTunes 7 so I can finally have gap free playback where appropriate. I've been waiting for this for a long time, so will probably wait a little longer till 7.0.2 or .3 are released (and a few more bugs are squashed).
But I have a question.
From reading here it appears that iTunes 7 will automatically re-determin the volume of all songs. I guess this is good since some previous versions of iTunes did mess these up sometimes. But, I've already "fixed" the problem by using iVolume. I also think iVolume does a slightly better job at making volume of all songs sound about the same.
Can somebody confirm that iTunes 7 always redetermins the volume of all songs in the library?
Running iVolume took about 10 days to crank through my 70k+ song library. I imagine iTunes 7 will also take some time to determin volume, and if an album should be gapless, and I want to leave time for this after I finally get up enough nerve to jump to the latest iTunes.
OK, I have two questions. How is iTunes 7 on a large library?

just cleaning up old posts. it did not recalculate the volumes

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