Java 1.5.0_06 and Switching Portals

I just installed JRE 1.5.0_06 and noticed a problem with my portal application. We run software called NRX which frontends our SAP Plant Maintenance system. We have 4 portals, 3 test and 1 production. When I had a prior version of Java, I was able to open IE and switch between portals with no problem. Now with this new version, when I open IE and go to the first portal url, I work fine. If I log out and switch my url to point to a different portal, I get a Java error:
Exception in thread "AWT-EventQueue-8" java.lang.UnsatisfiedLinkError: Can't load library: c:\program files\infozoom\izmjnicom.dll
This only happens if I leave IE open and switch portals. If I close IE and reopen I can go to the second portal and work fine.
The path specified above mentions Infozoom. I don't know what infozoom is but I researched it and found its a Java developer tool. I do have this library on my PC but under a different path. I have no idea why its looking for this infozoom software.
Has anyone seen this before?
Thanks for all your help
Michelle Lemay

I was doing more research on this yesterday and ran across something but I can't find the article again.
I saw somebody report a bug saying they couldn't run two applets that used the same library. I don't remember what jre version the bug was for. Java had replied this is intentional but you'd think the whole concept of shared libraries would be to allow this.
I wonder if this could be my problem because I'm going to one portal, executing the applet that loads the library the first time and it works fine. I then log off, switch portals, execute the applet again in the new portal (same applet) and this time it can't load the library it needs. If I close IE and reopen to the new portal it works fine, probably because cache is cleared (??)
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Please cut it down to having a pinning feature working variably in context (the task bar) with virtual desktops.
2) Finally the All Apps list pressing the start menu button: using navigation (categories, tags or filters!!!!!) to look up and finding programs not in use on a daily or weekly basis - now in context with the virtual desktop
The All Apps list that needs a nice feature to support categorization, really better provisioning in the UI of user or standard concepts (now come on, man - fix the mess. Just take a look at the complexity in that list ...). You could add a feature
to filter the All Apps list in context with the concepts for the virtual desktop.
At least provide the application infrastructure for categorization in the Start Menu. So you could process it as a third party. See what happens. Add app store later then. Whatever. Make categorization happen. No more bloat navigating for programs.
Add a template feature to the categorization. Provide 2-3 templates with Windows and let people tag there programs. Let them extend the templates ... the concepts when doing their own user concepts.
With a template feature a user just have to fill in the blanks i.e. tag his/her programs - and the menus will parse equally. Hey, the template feature could even parse into virtual desktops. I.e. using a dev variant of a template.
It's going to be 2015. And compositional software design have been around for some time. Including factories for configuring software variability. Some come on now. Let's work.
4) Conclusion
360 degrees now on virtual desktops, task bar, all apps and workflow please! Make it happen.
The problem with Windows 8 was not bad features - but bad provisioning including empty programs like the new wau media players ... underdeveloped features (no really good quantity of content demonstrating value = bad provisioning) ... completely lack of
demonstrating the value of the new UI. Like if Sharepoint or any other CMS was demonstrated completely blank with no sites and empty features, no templates. Just nothing.
Please do not miss the oppertunity to demonstrate the value of an evolved UI this time.
Please complete the provisioning. Your greatest problem is releasing undone things - may be the intension is there (recall DB schemas). However the "DB extension" is empty on release? Which consumers just buy the DB schema :o). Add some "movies"
(content) please ... add frameworks for content and provisioning ... use templates. If you do not understand this ... go away program manager ;o) Let a good software engineering read it.
Now let's fully develop the virtual features in the desktop in Windows 10. And have them provisioned - so people can see how to use them. That unfortunately never happened during engineering in Windows 8.

3 different ways and displays for pinning a program for Start!
Please consider merging Start (on the Start), Start Screen and the task bar - with pins extending the Task Bar and using the Metro UI icons overall including on the desktop. It would be a nice move on the look and feel - while the task bar would be
the same. Add virtualization for pins as well on the task bar. Make shortscuts and docs on the virtual desktop actual as well - binding dynamically to a virtual desktop - instead of formal and static.
Just observed the Start Screen can be turned back on using properties on the Task Bar.
Many ambigious concepts now for Starting programs instead of just using a Consolidated Start concept for Start Screen, Start on the Start Menu and Task bar.

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