JAVA MARKET IN UK ???

Hi All
I know this is a wrong question for this kind of forum, but thoughts about this issue will help people like me.
Shan

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ABAP JAVA market Comparison

Hi
I have a job opportunity for ABAP Developer for automotive industry.
my background is Software engineering (BSc Computer Engineering, Software). as I know during developing I will get familiar with more aspects of SAP.
the question is how is the market for ABAP Developer now and in future ? how much is the salary and comparison with other jobs (like java developer).
is it as high-tech as Java? my understanding is that ABAP is low level developing and it is not as technical as java.
I have to make a decision and change my filed to SAP. please help.
thanks

Hi,
You can use the program RHAUTUPD_NEW or goto the transaction PFCG->Utilities-> Mass Comparison.
Hope it helps.
Regards,
Gaurav

Java Market

Hi! All guys.
Currently i am a dotnet developer. I have also worked in java for some time. I like java architectures too much. I send a CV to a software house. They conducted my interview and at the same time they offered me job. But i dicussed it with some people: is it good to switch to java? Some of them replied me that java use is going to be obsoleted and in future i will not see more jobs of java. Because dotnet is capturing the market to rapidly and it has done of most of it. It got me confused. Is that true? Please guide me?
Thanks!

My current job is as a .NET developer. (There's not much in the way of Java development in the small city where I live, but that's another story.) Guess what sort of tools and technologies we use?
For builds: nant
Logging: log4Net
Unit testing: NUnit
Persistence: NHibernate
And on another project (not one I'm working on) I know they are using NSpring
One day I'll come to work and they'll have switched to Java and I won't even notice ;-)

How Java Sould be Marketed(interesting)

I thought this may be relevent here, it gets into some interesting ideas about distribution. enjoy.
Sun needs a new JAVA marketing strategy.
Opinions expressed here are of my own, Matt Prokes, remember these are only opinions about what should or could be.
If you have ?'s contact me at [email protected]
What Java's Problem Is:
As far as I can see the only problem that java has these days is the client inconsistency s, this is due to Microsoft and there attempted destruction of the HUGE java language, and Microsoft has succeeded wonderfully thus far, which is sad. I feel it is only due to the way Sun markets Java, not that they have not tried but they are going about it the wrong way.
Sun Feels They Are Being Oppressed:
It seems to me that Sun has a feeling of being oppressed by Microsoft, they see the company inflicting standards on the computing world that are self centered and platform specific, this is why java was created, to break that mold and it does it wonderfully but java has not gained popularity because of marketing technique, no, it has gained popularity because it REALLY is what it is cracked up to be....A better way of doing things....
That is why sun landed the title of being one the the most innovative company s today by the magazine �PC World� ranking 13th place while Microsoft landed 137th (i think).
Yet with all this technology sun does not try to inflict it's standards on the PC world, well you might think what about all those court cases, for instance the most recent that suggests that Sun wants to FORCE Microsoft to install their JVM. I think stuff like this just slows Sun down, as we learned with previous cases Microsoft is just to big to fight and if you do manage to win it will be 3-4 years later. If you think about it time is money, why waste time? Trying to leach off of Microsoft is NOT the way to inflict standards, in fact it is one of the worst ways because by the time you would have won Microsoft would have bullied the java environment to it's grave (umm .net). So you may ask how do we enforce standards without the help of Microsoft, the answer is more simple than you may think yet for some reason it has not been thought of by Sun. So far this is what has brought Microsoft to the top.
1.Great Software
2.Enforced Standards, and Implementation
3.Excellent Marketing
4.Protected Software (Ideas)
5.Industry Wide Support
Innovation is not on this list, Microsoft does not have a innovative bone in it's body at the moment, it just buys technology that it needs, and has flashy GUI's, and a huge amount of support in the software industry. This is why according to the magazine �PC World� Microsoft ranks #137 in innovation while Sun sits at a satisfying ranking of #13.
What this means is that Sun just is more innovative, it has technology out there that could be used but it can't because we have clients with Version 1.3 Java software on their PC's, Either that or Proprietary and NOT PLATFORM INDEPENDENT Microsoft JVM's which Microsoft will again start to distribute in 2004 on XP, this brings me to my first point, if we are going to have a platform independent language it needs to come from ONE POINT that will be implemented by all Manufactures (the W3C for instance). You may be thinking well how do you enforce the SUN JVM if Microsoft does not pack it with windows? The answer is you do what most new company s do and that is goto the PC Vendors. I would like to point out that Microsoft is for the most part ONLY a software company (aside from some of there PC products), but they do not build and distribute PC systems, thus Microsoft does not control what can go on a PC, I would like to point out the growing Linux threat to windows, more particularly the Linux based operating system (Lindows) recently lindows has acquired a deal with walmart to sell there operating system as a substitute to windows, this worked out phenominaly and right now walmart cannot seem to keep enough of the pc's on the shelves (since they cost only about 199$). Case point Linux has also grown enormously due to �Home Editions� of Linux (Red Hat). The first point I would like to make is that Sun should be PAYING vendors to install the SUN JVM over the Microsoft one, this takes care of a few of Sun's problems (Not as much industry support as Microsoft, and upgrading the JVM) all this can be done for a measly 5-6 million a year and will reach about 70% of the PC sector, in fact I am almost certain this is how Microsoft started out.
One Of Java's Big Problems JVM Inconsistency s
Now if Sun locks 70% of the PC market that will already be a large boost for java, but the question is how to make the percentage grow to 100%... I would now like to point out the company Macromedia, macromedia products are phenominal, and have changed the way media is seen on the web, particularly the Flash product that macromedia sells, now at this moment macromedia has stated that >90% flash support exists on the web today and >70% is with the most current version of flash, as I see it in fact flash is one of the most universally supported pieces of software even more so than Microsoft, this is why you see flash movies on yahoo, cnet, amazon, and even MSN! So you may ask what made flash what it is today? Well as described before flash is supported and installed by PC vendors, and even if it is not you can barely go any place on the web with out getting a message stating that you should upgrade to the most current version of flash, this is due to the wide support on the web..... Now on the other hand if I run a java applet and the applet was compiled with some new features that were not supported in version 1.3 (Swing for example) we will get an error message stating that the package cannot be found and the applet will not run...You do not get any messages to upgrade, no window prompts, nothing..which brings me to my next point the java compiler should include the code (a pre JVM 1.3 version & Microsoft JVM compatible) that will prompt you to install the most current version of Java you already see default loaders for swing, a plug in check should also be included in all programs to ensure that you have to most recent version, and if you do not then it will send you to the Sun Website, or display a update manager or something. Getting an error saying that the applet packages are not found does not help the user any it only frustrates them, you have to physically provide a remedy to the problem at hand. This should also check to see if the Microsoft JVM is installed and if it is prompt to upgrade to the Sun JVM, this will pretty much destroy the use of the Microsoft JVM.
This takes care of the enforcing standards part, braudens the Industry Wide Support, and protects the java environment, last but not least you need to promote the software, Java already does this excellently with web services, and other things but there are more consumers than businesses and Java should also be concentrating more on the excellent 3d support that they have, the networking features of java, ect. Take OpenOffice.org for instance the product has grown emmensly since it has started and much uses Java API's, you would see much growth in Java if you provided other products like Open Office for free, for instance a Quake Like Multi player game in Java 3D distributed on an open source environment, in applet form (since applets are exclusively a invention of Java), and then have a couple of servers set up that people can play for free on Sun's site, more networking app's for free, ect. You have to promote some of the more flashy features of Sun this way in order to see more growth and support and for free (learn from Linux which is quickly becoming a HUGE threat for Microsoft) if sun is making 13 billion a year I see no problem to them sporting a couple of servers with some USEFUL online apps/games/ect that sport how innovative java really is, and if they really need to they can have all the banners on stuff like the online games, take Http://www.runescape.com that sports an average of 10,000 users at any moment using the cross platform Java 3d API and they do it for free! All open source free products should be on Suns website, it shows how strong of a community Sun really is, instead of having it on some other website like www.openoffice.org that only sports Sun's name maybe a few times you might occasionally see a logo.. it would be better to maybe get open office from an address like www.openoffice.sun.com, maybe try a www.games.sun.com address or a www.apps.sun.com and then advertise the stuff that can be found at the Sun website. You see Microsoft doing it with the .net platform and other utility s all the time on places like MSN I don't see why Sun does not make the same initcative and better yet have it open source. Open source software simply �matures� quicker than regular software, Sun should be proud to be part of open source, it is the only thing Microsoft can't buy....
Opinions Of Matt Prokes..
[email protected]

And now your question is "How should my ideas be marketed?" Well unfortunately ideas, even if they are unique and original, are a dime a dozen. And they are mostly drowned out by propaganda, sometimes in the guise of ideas itself.
If you really want to propagate your ideas, then you need to follow ashkelon's advice. My eyes glazed over almost instantly when I ran into 40-line paragraphs. Find somebody who writes well and ask them for their help. (Those people are often called "editors" when they are at work.)
Next, where should you try to send your ideas? I can tell you that vice presidents of marketing respond negatively when people come out of nowhere and tell them "You are doing your job wrong, here's what you should be doing." No matter whether what you say is true or not, that's just human nature to get all defensive when that happens. You could try to get an article like what you posted there published in one of the industry magazines that covers topics like that; but to do that you would definitely need an editor. (You might even get paid for the article, too.)

Your first Java job?

Anyone care to describe their first job where the were able to use and apply Java technology? Did you come from a prior programming background? How did you like it?
I'm trying to gather some info so I have some idea what the Java market is like out there.

Well, back in 95/96 I was working (as a C++ guy) on the third generation of an Object Oriented 4GL for a well known database company...
Neat product. Crappy widget set and released the same days as Borland Delphi - but apart from that it had everything going for it ;)
Then, some jokers from just around the corner (we were based in Palo Alto in those days) came up with this new-fangled Java nonsense and we said sh***************t! The game was, most definitely, up.
Unphased, we bungled on and got hold of the JDK. Played around a bit and decided that we could modify our product to generate Java instead of C with SQL embedded in it. So we did. I think we sold it to oh, must be at least two companies, but I heard one of them paid for it by mistake ;)
As luck would have it, the internet was about to boom so I got a contract with Cisco and spent three years designing and developing a network provisioning system - in Java, of course.
Been at it ever since. Mostly for Investment banks, though I still do some networking stuff.
However, to answer your question about the Java market; from a contractors perspective, it's hosed. But then the whole IT market is.
I'm currently doing two contracts at the same time and still (just) manage to earn less than I did 18 months ago working on one. Go figure.

Java 1.8.0_25 not detecting the MS TMG proxy

Hi ,
We are using Java Eclipse version Luna for our java development purpose. we are running the java behind the MS fore front TMG client is installed on our users device. we were able to connect the Java market Place with JRE ver 1.6.
Once we upgrade the JRE version to 1.8 then we are not able to connect the Java Eclipse Market Place in version Luna.
Please find the Error while connecting market Place
But our internet connection is good. I can able browse with in Eclipse browser.
Please help me to resolve the issue..
Thanks
Subbiah.V

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How the JVM SHOULD be distributed (interesting)

Well I sent this document to the JCP maybe it will be better off there....
Sun needs a new JAVA marketing strategy.
Opinions expressed here are of my own, Matt Prokes, remember these are only opinions about what should or could be.
If you have ?'s contact me at [email protected]
What Java's Problem Is:
As far as I can see the only problem that java has these days is the client inconsistencys, this is due to Microsoft and there attempted dustruction of the HUGE java language, and Microsoft has succeeded wonderfully thus far, which is sad. I feel it is only due to the way Sun markets Java, not that they have not tried but they are going about it the wrong way.
Sun Feels They Are Being Oppressed:
It seems to me that Sun has a feeling of being oppressed by Microsoft, they see the company inflicting standards on the computing world that are self centered and platform specific, this is why java was created, to break that mold and it does it wonderfully but java has not gained populatiry because of marketing technique, no, it has gained popularity because it REALLY is what it is cracked up to be....A better way of doing things....
That is why sun landed the title of being one the the most innovative companys today by the magazine �PC World� ranking 13th place while Microsoft landed 137th (i think).
Yet with all this technology sun does not try to inflict it's standards on the PC world, well you might think what about all those court cases, for instance the most recent that suggests that Sun wants to FORCE Microsoft to install their JVM. I think stuff like this just slows Sun down, as we learned with previous cases Microsoft is just to big to fight and if you do manage to win it will be 3-4 years later. If you think about it time is money, why waste time? Trying to leach off of Microsoft is NOT the way to inflict standards, infact it is one of the worst ways because by the time you would have won microsoft would have bullied the java enviroment to it's grave (umm .net). So you may ask how do we enforce standards without the help of microsoft, the answer is more simple than you may think yet for some reason it has not been thought of by Sun. So far this is what has brought microsoft to the top.
1.Great Software
2.Enforced Standards, and Implementation
3.Excellent Marketing
4.Protected Software (Ideas)
5.Industry Wide Support
Innovation is not on this list, Microsoft does not have a innovative bone in it's body at the moment, it just buys technology that it needs, and has flashy GUI's, and a huge amount of support in the software industry. This is why according to the magazine �PC World� microsoft ranks #137 in innovation while Sun sits at a satisfying ranking of #13.
What this means is that Sun just is more innovative, it has technology out there that could be used but it can't because we have clients with Version 1.3 Java software on their PC's, Either that or Propietary and NOT PLATFORM INDEPENDENT Microsoft JVM's which Microsoft will again start to distribute in 2004 on XP, this brings me to my first point, if we are going to have a platform independent language it needs to come from ONE POINT that will be implemented by all Manufactures (the W3C for instance). You may be thinking well how do you enforce the SUN JVM if microsoft does not pack it with windows? The answer is you do what most new companys do and that is goto the PC Vendors. I would like to point out that microsoft is for the most part ONLY a software company (aside from some of there PC products), but they do not build and distribute PC systems, thus microsoft does not control what can go on a PC, I would like to point out the growing Linux threat to windows, more particulary the linux based operating system (Lindows) recently lindows has aquired a deal with walmart to sell there operating system as a subsitute to windows, this worked out phenominaly and right now walmart cannot seem to keep enough of the pc's on the shelves (since they cost only about 199$). Case point linux has also grown enormously due to �Home Editions� of linux (Red Hat). The first point I would like to make is that Sun should be PAYING vendors to install the SUN JVM over the microsoft one, this takes care of a few of Sun's problems (Not as much industry support as microsoft, and upgrading the JVM) all this can be done for a measily 5-6 million a year and will reach about 70% of the PC sector, infact I am almost certain this is how microsoft started out.
One Of Java's Big Problems JVM Inconsistencys
Now if Sun locks 70% of the PC market that will already be a large boost for java, but the question is how to make the percentage grow to 100%... I would now like to point out the company Macromedia, macromedia products are phenominal, and have changed the way media is seen on the web, particularly the Flash product that macromedia sells, now at this moment macromedia has stated that >90% flash support exists on the web today and >70% is with the most current version of flash, as I see it infact flash is one of the most universally supported pieces of software even more so than microsoft, this is why you see flash movies on yahoo, cnet, amazon, and even MSN! So you may ask what made flash what it is today? Well as described before flash is supported and installed by PC vendors, and even if it is not you can bearly go any place on the web with out getting a message stating that you should upgrade to the most current version of flash, this is due to the wide support on the web..... Now on the other hand if I run a java applet and the applet was compiled with some new features that were not supported in version 1.3 (Swing for example) we will get an error message stating that the package cannot be found and the applet will not run...You do not get any messages to upgrade, no window prompts, nothing..which brings me to my next point the java compiler should include the code (a pre JVM 1.3 version & microsoft JVM compatiable) that will prompt you to install the most current version of Java you already see default loaders for swing, a plugin check should also be included in all programs to ensure that you have to most recent version, and if you do not then it will send you to the Sun Website, or display a update manager or something. Getting an error saying that the applet packages are not found does not help the user any it only frusterates them, you have to physically provide a remedy to the problem at hand. This should also check to see if the microsoft JVM is installed and if it is prompt to upgrade to the Sun JVM, this will pretty much distroy the use of the microsoft JVM.
This takes care of the enforcing standards part, braudens the Industry Wide Support, and protects the java enviroment, last but not least you need to promote the software, Java already does this excellently with webservices, and other things but there are more consumers than businesses and Java should also be concentrating more on the excellent 3d support that they have, the networking features of java, ect. Take OpenOffice.org for instance the product has grown emmensly since it has started and much uses Java API's, you would see much growth in Java if you provided other products like Open Office for free, for instance a Quake Like Multiplayer game in Java 3D distributed on an open source enviroment, in applet form (since applets are exclusivly a invention of Java), and then have a couple of servers set up that people can play for free on Sun's site, more networking app's for free, ect. You have to promote some of the more flashy features of Sun this way in order to see more growth and support and for free (learn from linux which is quickly becoming a HUGE threat for microsoft) if sun is making 13 billion a year I see no problem to them sporting a couple of servers with some USEFUL online apps/games/ect that sport how innovative java really is, and if they really need to they can have all the banners on stuff like the online games, take Http://www.runescape.com that sports an average of 10,000 users at any moment using the cross platform Java 3d API and they do it for free! All open source free products should be on Suns website, it shows how strong of a community Sun really is, instead of having it on some other website like www.openoffice.org that only sports Sun's name maybe a few times you might occasionally see a logo.. it would be better to maybe get open office from an address like www.openoffice.sun.com, maybe try a www.games.sun.com address or a www.apps.sun.com and then advertise the stuff that can be found at the Sun website. Sun should be proud to be open source, it is the only thing microsoft can't buy....
Opinions Of Matt Prokes..
[email protected]

Sun should be proud to be open source, it is the only thing microsoft
can't buy....Thats the only line of your whole pointless post that I read.
Since when is "sun" open source. I imagine you mean java. Java isn't open source, what makes you think it is? You can get the source for it and modify it to suit ur needs as per the license but this isn't really open source.. is it?
Anyway, don't waste space with your crap here, send an e-mail to somebody at sun instead, its just a waste posting this here.

Are there any other languages based on the JVM?

are there any other languages based on the java virtual machine? woud sun allow/support that? are there any projects on this from sun or other enterprises? or some openssource projects from some enthusiastic people?

the list counts 160 languages!Ah well... looks like I was rather wrong then :-(I'm not so sure you were. When I first started with Java I expected a number of other languages to appear that would compile to Java byte code. To me it seemed an obvious way for toolmakers such as Powersoft (PowerBuilder) to get into the Java market yet still keep customers tied to their toolset but this hasn't seemed to happen.
There may be 160 languages/tools on that page but how many are in widespread use?
Col

Can someone pls help me with java on my macbook pro because after i download the mountain lion java has died and i need java to see streaming quotes from stock market

can someone pls help me with java on my macbook pro because after i download the mountain lion java has died and i need java to see streaming quotes from stock market

Java is no longer included in Mac OS X by default. If you want Java, you will have to install it.
However, note that you should think twice before installing Java for such a trivial need as looking at stock market quotes. There are other ways to get that information that don't involve Java, and using Java in your web browser is a HUGE security risk right now. Java has been vulnerable to attack almost constantly for the last year, and has become a very popular, frequently used method for getting malware installed via "drive-by downloads." You really, truly don't want to be using it. See:
Java is vulnerable… Again?!
http://java-0day.com

Loading Java Applet Failed in CRM 2007 Web Client Marketing

We have recently upgraded our CRM 4.0 sp6 system to CRM 2007. As part of this upgrade we configured the SAP Best Practice Building Blocks. Logging on to the webclient using the user MKT_MAN (assigned business role BP_MKT_MAN) we get an error when trying to run the Marketing Calendar. the error we get is that "Loading Java Applet Failed" the specific applet in question is: Applet com.sap.crm.mkt.calendar.applet.MktCalendar notinited
We have implemented the following SAP notes to try and rectify the issue but with no success:
Note 1177590 - Version 2.0 of Marketing Calendar java applet
Note 1237477 - Marketing Calendar is not displayed, Tensegrity Library
Any ideas as to what can resolve this issue
Thanks in advance
Eddie

Hi Eddie
I have exactly the same problem, using IE 6.0 & JRE 1.4.2_07.
What I have found is that users in my company with the same configuration on their machines, same settings as above can load the Marketing Calendar without issue.
Have loaded the same notes as yourself already.
I have managed to get it to working by switching off my proxy settings entirely. This is fine for testing but of no use for go live.
I have also found that when it does finally load successfully it is incredibly slow in comparison to other functionality within the WEB UI.
Thus far I have logged an OSS Message regarding this matter, could I recommend you do the same, this should encourage SAP that the issue is not isolated.
Good Luck
Arden

Is there a market for Java 3d?

Hi, i'm just about to finish college this year and have worked with lots of programming languages during my time in college but found java to be the most interesting... After a while i got into making games in java with the help of the java 3d api. I'm interested in going into this market when i finished colelge but i was just wondering...
Is there a future for java 3d in the games development market?

Iron Monkey wrote:
Apple tried this before, it was called the G4 Cube and it didn't sell so well at the time, although, I think the outrageous sticker price had something to do with poor sales...
Yuh think ! ? !
That was 75% of the reason. It was waaaaay overpriced.
The ports being on the bottom, where no one could get at them, was another big reason it was not accepted by the public.
I am among those who have been pushing for a desktop system with a mini-like footprint, but imac-like performance -- but I've been advocating this since before the Mini existed.
One idea I put forward in my Mac User Group's newsletter was for a machine just slightly taller than a mini that docks into a cinema display-type monitor. This would allow apple to sell them together for an imac experience, or separately.
Regardless of whether or not they did the docking thing, this is the computer system that could really bring about great Mac acceptance in the corporate world. But of course Apple ignores that space and seem deaf to the needs of industry.

Market penetration of Java as of now?

Hi,
For a study I am investigating the market penetration of the JRE for browsers. I've searched the web and could only find a report from Macromedia, stating that Java has a 85,6% market penetration. However this report is from 2006 and might not be that accurate. I was hoping someone could point me to an unbiased official (and hopefully objective) source which I can add in my report!
Thank you in advance!

Yes I am interested only in the browser market. Say I would launch an applet based on Java 6, how large would my user base be?
Also you make the statement that there almost always is a better web technology than using an applet. Could you please elaborate on that?
As far as I know Java's only way of serving a webbased rich internet application is via the use of an applet.
Ofcourse there is also Webstart but that's a framework which works outside the browser.
Also, on business computers that are shut tight on the priviledges department, installing a webstart app can be difficult.
An applet doesn't require installation, which is one of the major points my RIA-app must comply to.
Finally you could say Applets have a browser memory restriction and therefor aren't suitable but using jnlp you can assign memory usage as far as i know. Next to that update 10 allows you to set the memory heap from the applet-tag in your HTML, though its a stopgap measure.
If i sound offensive, that was not my intention. :)
Edited by: killingdjef on Oct 31, 2008 8:55 PM
Edited by: killingdjef on Oct 31, 2008 8:56 PM

Market Research for JAVA - UK based question

Hi, apologies if this is out of place, but my current employer is looking to switch from a Microsoft platform to Java platform, and I have been tasked with finding out some info and was hoping I might get some rapid assistance on here.
Can anyone therefore give me an idea of the approx cost of acheiving Sun certification in Java?
Does anybody know, roughly, the size of the JAVA community in the UK (and therefore how many candidates might be available to my employer). My feeling is that there are more C# programmers in the UK currently?
Can anyone give me an idea why this disparity exists, if indeed it does?
Any pointers to other useful websites gratefully received,
thanks

Hi, apologies if this is out of place, but my current
employer is looking to switch from a Microsoft
platform to Java platform, and I have been tasked
with finding out some info and was hoping I might get
some rapid assistance on here.Ah yes, we're all in a hurry, I'll try to type as quickly as possible.
Can anyone therefore give me an idea of the approx
cost of acheiving Sun certification in Java?$200,-
http://www.sun.com/training/catalog/courses/CX-310-055.xml
Does anybody know, roughly, the size of the JAVA
community in the UK (and therefore how many
candidates might be available to my employer). My
feeling is that there are more C# programmers in the
UK currently?In the UK, there are roughly 3.1415 times as many C# developers as there are Java developers.
http://www.onjava.com/pub/a/onjava/2005/10/04/number_of_csharp_java_developers.html
Can anyone give me an idea why this disparity exists,
if indeed it does?People sometimes associate Java developers with a large male community generally active in San Fransisco and/or Amsterdam. This may have something to do with it.
Any pointers to other useful websites gratefully
received,
thanksNo problem.

Java for Mac OSX 10.4 Release7 will not work with eTrade Market Trader

After the latest update to 10.4.11 wich was the latest version of Java the java applet will not start. Talked to eTrade tech support and found out that their site only supports up Java1.6. Now I am trying to update my Mac Pro to 10.4.10 but can not find the update anywhere that is not bundled with the latest version of Java. Called Apple support, they did not have a solution, so to all you experts how can this problem be resolved ?

Thank you for your response. I spent 2 hours on the phone with an Apple Tech, he was really good and we went through all the possibilities (thank god for Apple Care Plan). He even got others involved but we all could not come up with anything else than to do an 'Archive-Install'. I did repair permissions several times. My Mac was running great prior to the update, I actually own 7 Mac's and I am very meticulous with maintenance and backing up everything. By the way I love these things. But when the new update came out, I told everybody to backup and then update the Mac's. Now I have 1 Mac that runs 10.4.8 and 6 that run 10.4.11. They all work great and are in great condition, but the only one that can run the online trading platform is the one running 10.4.8 and all the others have the software to access my .Mac account. Since I have these Mac's indifferent locations (so I can travel without lugging one along) I enjoy using all the .Mac features. Everything was so easy before "Java for Mac OSX 10.4 Release 7" came out. I am just really frustrated. I just wish I could go back to 10.4.10. But all the updates are bundled with the Java release 7. Is there any place where I can find 10.4.10 ?

I use Ameritrade website for the stock market. When accessing Command Center it asks for an old version of Java. I have no problems with Chrome.

Mac OSX 10.6 Intel. I can use an older version of Firefox, 3.67 without problems, but any of the new versions wont load the Command Center that allows me to keep track of stock sales and etc. The program asks me to install Java. It seems to want an older version of Java.
I have no problem using Command Center with Google Chrome.

There's nothing Firefox can do about that. You need to contact Command Center.
Using old, possibly insecure, programs is never a good idea.

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