JPEG, TIFF or PSD?

When Preparing images in PS for use in a PrPro DVD, what file format is best to "save as" in PS?
Thank you
Michael

I almost always use PSD, and have had no issues. Some are Flattened (no individual Layers any more), but many are Layered, and often Imported as a Sequence, to animate the Layers individually. I also utilize the Transparency support in PSD's.
I also use PNG's, but not as often (supports Transparency, but I find PSD's do it more to my liking)
TIFF's also work well, but as I often need the Layer handling in the PSD (TIFF's can support Layers, but I find that support less than perfect for my Images)
JPEG's utilize compression, and as I will almost always Export w/ some form of compression, shun that format
Just my personal choices,
Hunt

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Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files ignored when unchecked

In the Catalog Settings under the Metadata tab, I have unchecked the option 'Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF and PSD files'.
I then selected a JPEG photograph in the Library module and chose Metadata/Save Metatdata to File. I wanted to save the metadata that I had added (keywords, IPTC, rating, etc), but not the develop settings.
I then imported the jpeg back into another catalog. The metadata I had added was there as expected, but so are the develop settings. This I did not expect or want.
Have I got something wrong here? My understanding is that turning off the 'Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF and PSD files' option means that develop settings are not written to the xmp area in non raw files such as jpegs.
Looks like a bug to me.
Tony

Hello all,
I have investigated this problem further and now have the answer. It is not that the option "Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files" is ignored, but it appears that the LR catalog is not properly updated when this option is turned off.
Here are steps to test and illustrate the problem:
1. Create a new folder and place a copy of an original jpeg image (original from camera) in the new folder. Make sure you keep the original safe and only work on copies.
2. Create a new catalog in Lightroom 2.3.
3. Import the jpeg image from the new folder.
4. Add some metadata (keywords, ratings, title, caption, IPTC data, etc).
5. Make some Develop adjustments to the image.
6. Open "Catalogue Settings" from the Edit menu and check (enable) the option "Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files". Uncheck (disable) the "Automatically write changes into XMP" option.
7. Select "Save Metadata to File".
8. Delete the jpeg image from the Library module, then re-import it.
9. Copy the original image back to the new folder, replacing the updated jpeg (once again, the jpeg image now contains no metadata from Lightroom). At this stage, Lightroom fails to recognize that the metadata in the LR catalog doesn’t match the metadata content in the jpeg file. I would have though that it should.
10. Open "Catalogue Settings" from the Edit menu and uncheck (turn off) the option "Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files".
11. Reset the Develop settings.
12. You now need to make a change to the metadata like increase or decrease the rating (otherwise LR won’t save any metadata to the jpeg file - LR is being too smart and thinks it’s already up to date, so does nothing when you do the next step).
12. Select "Save Metadata to File".
13. Delete the jpeg image from the Library module again, then re-import it again.
14. Look at the develop settings (that you specifically did not want saved within the jpeg file in step 10).
Although the Develop settings were Reset in step 11, you have ended up with the original Develop settings from step 5. It is true that LR has not saved the reset develop settings, but it also hasn’t removed the old develop settings that are still stored in the catalog. This must be considered a bug (oversight). Note that it has also saved an Import snapshot as well.
For the more technically minded (and the LR developers if you are listening), the field "xmp" in the table "Adobe_AdditionalMetadata" is not updated (old camera raw settings and snapshot settings are left behind) when the "Include Develop settings in metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files" option is unchecked (disabled) and it seems that this is the data that is written to the jpeg file when you select "Save Metadata to File". Note that the state of "Automatically write changes into XMP" has not effect on this process - I tried it on and off.
Hope that this might be of some help to others one day.
Tony

What does "Include develop settings metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files" do?

I am wondering what the option "Include develop settings metadata inside JPEG, TIFF, and PSD files" found in catalog settings/metadata does? what happens if you uncheck it?

Bob12312321 wrote:
also when this is unchecked will lightroom still save keyword changes to raw(nef) files? thank you!
Metadata ("real" metadata like keyowords nor develop adjustments) are never saved into non-DNG Raw files (like .nef, .cr2) directly. With these files, there is always a so called sidecar file (with the extension .xmp) created to hold the XMP information.
And yes, if the option is unchecked, LR will save the keywords to the XMP sidecars, when you perform "Write Metadata to File" or have the autowrite option active.
Beat

RAW vs JPEG Tiff vs PSD

Someone mentioned that with a RAW format file from my Nikon camera, I can manipulate the image more extensively than if I have the camera save the JPG file.
Eventually I save it as a TIFF or PSD.
2 questions...
a) Is Tiff vs PSD a better lossless format to save in?
b) Can someone give me an example of what I can do with an image saved in RAW format that I cannot do with JPEG? I am using Photoshop Elements 4.0.
Thanks much!

There are several pros and cons for JPEG and for RAW format. Here is list of some:
JPEG format
+ smaller file size
+ great portfolio of software to manage this format
-- just 8-bit (8 stops) dynamic range
-- lossy compression format
RAW format
-- larger file size
-- just a few programs to manage this format
+ usually 12-bit (12 stops) and larger dynamic range
+ lossless compression format
Generaly speaking if you don't care then JPEG format is enough for you. Just shoot and you have a photo. But having JPEG photography is almost like having the print of a photo, digitaly speaking You have lost the original so you are able to make just minimal adjustments, otherwise you will see what posterization and noise gain means and you will not like it
You are content with the JPEG photo unless you enter the RAW world Much larger dynamic range allow you to make photo-corrections like white balance, exposure, contrast adjustment, etc. in large scale. You are working with virginal data from the camera sensor not affected with lossy compression of the JPEG format. It is just aperture, lens, light and you. No digital filters usually used when camera is making JPEG from the same data.
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Im looking for a way to save or convert photoshop cs6 apple retina display formated files to be available to open on Windows PC's?

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CS6: cannot open any files JPEG, TIFF, PSD, PNG [was:Help!]

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Okay, I'm going to say this now. I'm a techinically chanellged artistic person. So, I haven't a clue what a OS is...
And no I haven't changed anything on my computer lately, except for the updates that the computer does while it's configuring, which is did earlier when I tried the ole restart and hope it works thing. Which sadly, did not do anything to help me.
Extra Info:
Computer: Dell Inspiron
System Operator: Winows 7 Ultimate
Yes, it's tyhe full version not the trial version.
It's Photoshop CS6 (64 bit).
Yes, I've used it before on this computer.
I've had it for almost 2 maybe 3 months now. I got it as a gift from my sister the 2nd and 3rd week of he beginning of my Fall semester. We're almost at the end of said semester since 2 to 3 weeks ago I have my midterms, which were all jammed into one week. Tests galore.

PSE-6.......assigning file types (jpeg, TIFF, psd)

I mistakenly contacted Canon regarding the following question, and they said it was a matter of my photo editing software.
I'm reading articles about editing photos for jewelry photography. The articles I'm reading say to start off as a TIFF or PSD file before doing any editing. From what I'm (hopefully) understanding form the articles, they say to not edit a jpeg file and not to "jpeg a jpeg file" because each time you edit (do I understand correctly?) a jpeg file image information is lost.
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Cannot import still image: jpeg/tiff/png/gif/ai/psd

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I'm running into a strange error. No matter what size image I try, I cannot seem to import a still image into Adoe Premiere Pro cs4 running on Mac OSX 10.6.2
The error I receive is a "File Import Error: File Video Dimensions width/height too large."
I've tried the following to isolate why Premiere is returning this error:
- importing images at different sizes: 100x200, 1000x2000 etc
- saving the image as different file formats: jpeg, tiff, gif, png etc
- importing it as an illustrator file
- importing it as a Photoshop file
None of that worked. I'm at my wit's end and I can't seem to find anybody that has experienced this error before.

Here are some threads to check:
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/387776
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/480381
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/387156
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/443138
IIRC, the third one is for the Mac, but might be useful info in all.
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Should I save as TIFF or PSD?

Hello, I have been going 'round in circles trying to decide whether to set my Lightroom external editing pref's for Photoshop as PSD or TIFF. I've very recently downloaded Photoshop - I'll be using it after I've done what I can in Lightroom, just for photo's - I've never used 'layers'
1) Can anyone advise which might be best - I read somewhere that PSD might be easier (or necessary) if I need to re-edit. I also read PSD could be a good idea as it would be easy to see which is the master edit, and which files have been saved as TIFF, for print say
2) I also read that you should never flatten a file, at least not until you need to (ie: save as TIFF for print) - any thoughts?
3) My thoughts (mixed up though they may be!) are to say edit layers etc in PS (either TIFF or PSD) then just press 'save', but not flatten layers (I understand the PSD or TIFF will then be alongside my original raw file back in Lightroom, as LR/PS automatically does this). Then say for print I would then 'save as' a TIFF (ie: for printing), or JPEG (ie: for web), and this would automatically flatten the file. If this is correct, say I started off with the un-flattened PSD for example, would I need to firstly make a copy of the PSD, or would just doing a 'save as' still keep the original PSD 'master file'? Also, after I say did a 'save as' for a TIFF, could I then just delete the TIFF and do another 'save as' if I wanted to do another print in the future, or better to just keep the TIFF in Lightroom alongside the raw, master PSD or TIFF / JPEG?
4) I won't be doing huge amounts in Photoshop, so would it be worth looking into using 'smart images / smart filters' - I'm just thinking that if document is not being flattened anyway would it be worthwhile?
Sorry about all the questions, but the more I read the more confused I become - I'm the sort of person who likes to know what they are doing before they do it if that makes sense (probably not!!)
Thanks, Roy
Message title was edited by: Brett N

Here's my thoughts...
1. You are a bit confused and I wonder how you can determine a file is a PSD or a TIF by looking at it? Not all print drivers can recognize PSD's, but can recognize TIF ( this means almost all output devices can interpret TIF's no problem ). That said, PSD's can manage layers better than TIF's which add to file size each layer you include in the TIF.
2. Never say never. This all depends on the file's use. Layered TIFs can add complexity in which a print driver can or cannot deal with. As you work on an image, you may want to merge layers for whatever reason(s) and you always have the option to flatten whenever you feel like it. However, It is also a good idea to dupe the file as you move along. That means you always have a layered version to fall back on should you need to edit later on. I also Place transparent PSDs in Illustrator files with no problems. But, I save as EPS in Illustrator and when I do that, then the file is automatically flattened. This is perhaps what the internet was talking about.
3. Yes, see number 2 above. There's no such thing as automatic flattening of TIFFs. Again, this all depends on the printer and whether or not it can print while retaining original layers. Some do, some don't. Most of the time, I edit in PSD with layers intact. Then, when I prep the file for printing, I will save a copy as a flattened TIFF so the file streamlines through the RIP and Print process.
4. Makes no difference. Use 'em if you've got 'em.
Try to get some good resource material at a library or college bookstore or barnes & noble. Also, get Adobe's Print Publishing Guide. This is a good reference guide.
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What is the best settings to use in the export manager when exporting from Aperture 3.5 to Photoshop cc. tiff? psd? 16bit? dpi?

What are the best settings to use in the export manager when exporting from Aperture 3.5 to Photoshop cc for editing?
Should I use tiff or psd?
8bit or 16bit?
How many dpi?

That will depend on the photometric resolution of your originals. For jpegs it would be a waste of space to convert them to a higher resolution than 8bit, but if your images actually have already more than 8bit, you will want to preserve this quality. Then he 16bit format will help to prevent color clipping.
Both tiff and psd will preserve the lossless workflow. With Photoshop as external editor I would use he psd format for better support of layers and transparency, e.g., when you want to create watermark files.
The dpi will only matter, when you export the file for printing.

Image file formats gif, png, jpeg, tiff

Hi guys,
I've read a little bit about this, so I know the some basics:
gifs: lossless, transparency/animation, 256 colors
jpeg: lossy, no transparency, 16 million colors, etc.
png: lossless, 16 million colors (?), newer/better compression and transparency than gif
But I want to hear it from the designers (web and/or print, cause I do both). What format do you guys use for editing/printing photos? I've always archived and printed my photos as TIFFs, they're huge, but this way I just avoid any hassle of quality loss.
I've been reading that I should keep my photos as PNGs and then print final versions as JPEGs...is that true? How do you guys utilize the various file types?
Thanks!!!

For print I use .tiff's ( just like you ). I limt .png files to the internet. I would not convert the .png to a .jpg for print. If anything, I'd copy the original .png and convert it to a CMYK .tiff or .psd file.

JPEG, TIFF(8bit), TIFF(16bit) - what's the best for a FCP timeline?

I use Aperture to organize all my photos. When I export to use in my FCP timeline what is the best settings to use for photos? JPEG, TIFF, PSD, 8bit, 16bit,etc?
Thanks,
Brian

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I edit my photos in Photoshop, save as jpeg then import back into iPhoto. But if I add text to an image in Photoshop can't save as jpeg but as psd. Is there any way I can change to jpeg in iPhoto?

I edit my RAW photos in Photoschop CS3, save as jpeg then import back into iPhoto 11. If I add text in Photoshop I can't save as jpeg but as psd. Is there any way I can change to jpeg in iPhoto?

Terence Devlin wrote:
Yes you can. But you need to flatten it as jpeg doesn't support layers.
While the final JPEG can't have layers, it is not necessary to flatten the original Photoshop file to create a JPEG. There are two ways to make a JPEG while not losing the flexibility of preserving layers, and they both flatten on the fly while saving.
I just tried this in Photoshop CS3 myself. When I add a text layer, and choose Save, the Save As dialog box comes up and defaults to PSD as was described. But... that is just the default! Go ahead and choose JPEG from the Format pop-up menu down below the file list. JPEG is in there. So what happens to the layers? Notice when you choose JPEG, the Layers box grays out and the "As A Copy" box grays out and is checked (i.e. you cannot uncheck it). What is going on here is Photoshop will gladly make a JPEG of your layered file, but it will force the JPEG to be a copy, so as to not overwrite the original layered file. This is good, because your Photoshop file with its editable text layer is preserved, and you get a JPEG copy to put in iPhoto.
The second way is, instead of doing Save or Save As, choose File/Save for Web and Devices. This will also give you a JPEG choice, and also create an exported copy. Because this way makes files for the Web, they will be smaller than JPEGs from Save As because they will lack built-in previews (which you don't really need these days) and other extra metadata that take up space.
Either way you get a JPEG you can toss back into iPhoto.
Terence Devlin wrote:
Only by exporting.
The Export menu in Photoshop CS3 does not have any direct choices for JPEG.

Writing XMP to multiple file formats (PDF, JPEG, TIFF, etc)

Hi,
I am developing a server-side component that embeds XMP data into a file (of various formats) and then provides these files for client download.
I have been using the XMP toolkit for generating the metadata, however i now have the problem of getting this metadata into the relevant file. I could always develop this myself but it seems like a huge amount of work. So to make my life easier, does anyone know of any toolkits (from adobe or otherwise) that support writing XMP data into different file formats (PDF, JPEG, TIFF, AIFF, MPEG etc) ??
I am developing in Java so I would prefer Java libraries, however I can always use JNI calls to C/C++ (as i have with the XMP toolkit).
Any help would be very appreciated.
Regards,
Jude

Greetings,
I think we should standardize some information, I know for a fack, that I will support adding XMP metadata in the HDF, RIFF, IFF and OLE file formats. If you have any specific suggestions on the chunk information or signature information that I should use, let me know?
For my part, I was thinking of adding RIFF,IFF chunks with the name \ xmp in those file formats. For OLE, maybe an added stream with the xmp name (in UTF-16).
Comments welcome everyone!

Tiff or psd trouble with fh11

please help me, i have trouble with tiff or psd image, no
problem when i imported that image, but when i add effect drop
shadow or glow and other effect that object going blur, i try to
clone that object before add shadhowing, i think it will be ok, but
when i print the file, that object appear not correctly, arounding
object appear blur look like mozaic, i really need advice from this
forum, thankyou.

> please help me, i have trouble with tiff or psd image,
no problem when i
> imported that image, but when i add effect drop shadow
or glow and other effect
> that object going blur, i try to clone that object
before add shadhowing, i
> think it will be ok, but when i print the file, that
object appear not
> correctly, arounding object appear blur look like
mozaic, i really need advice
> from this forum, thankyou.
Check File > Document Settings > Raster Effects
Settings.
The default is 72 dpi which is good enough for screen. 300
dpi is for print (press) but it may make screen redraw very slow.
Note that raster effects do not work well, or at all, in
FreeHand, especially with cmyk colors. And yes, most of the effects
will blur the object (!?!).
Probably the best way to create these effects is to use
Phothosop. Also in Illustrator the raster effects do work.
Jukka

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