JSP , PHP, ASP???

i read somewhere that php is far more powerful than JSP and PHP? is that rue??
also for which is finding hosting, cheaper and easier???
Ali

PHP more powerful? Depends on what you mean by power.
In terms of features, no. JSP and ASP have many more features. They have full fledged OO programming languages and API libraries backing them up.
In terms of speed, it can be faster, just BECAUSE it doesn't have to bother with all the features that JSP/ASP provide.
In terms of memory requirements, PHP wins hands down. Java/ASP can be quite memory hungry.
They all do basically the same stuff at the end of the day - generate dynamic web pages.
For a lot of simple small-medium size websites PHP is perfectly fine.
ASP and .NET can provide many more features, but you are tied to MIcrosoft platforms.
Java/JSP is the best (of course - how can I say other on a java forum) - provides a good balance of speed/power without tying you down to a specific platform
You will probably find hosting easier for PHP/MySQL than you will for the other technologies, though I can't say with any certainty. I haven't really looked myself :-)
Cheers.
evnafets
(let the flames begin)

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          "David Cook" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
          >
          > "One thing I've found lately is that server-side Java (JSP) is,
          > surprisingly, often omitted by web hosting providers. I thought that,
          > Java being the ultimate web language, just about everyone would offer
          > it, but it is fairly difficult to find at reasonable prices. Apparently,
          > it is a relative resource hog. One guy I talked to said that they
          > wouldn't be able to put more than three JSP sites on a server, whereas
          > using PHP or ASP, etc, they could do an order of magnitude better."
          >
          > A friend of mine sent me that statement above. Is this roughly a true
          > statement? (I'm posting this here just as a starter. It is not aimed at
          > Weblogic at all...note that Weblogic is NOT even mentioned in the quote
          > above.)
          >
          > The phrase "...everyone would offer it" pertains to the fact that my friend
          > has been conversing with various 'web hosting providers', and he came to
          > this
          > 'conclusion' after talking with a bunch of them in search of a company to
          > host some of his client-companies web pages.
          >
          > Thanks in advance for your experiences.
          >
          > Cheers...
          > Dave
          >
          >

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>
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Now the guy writes me back and sates that the script is
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on his server! (I know that IIS servers can run php) He
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> HOWEVER: During one test last night, instead of using
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>
> <form id="form" method="post" action="form.php">
>
> I substituted this:
>
> <form id="form" method="post" action="gdform.asp">
Is that possible at all or is someone trying to waste my
time? I'm no
expert in php and I know zero asp so maybe I'm just missing
something
really important here... or what?
Kim
http://www.geekministry.com

I think you're right. Thanks
Lionstone skrev:
> "Kim" <[email protected]> wrote in
message
> news:fa51v3$m7m$[email protected]..
>> Is that possible at all or is someone trying to
waste my time? I'm no
>> expert in php and I know zero asp so maybe I'm just
missing something
>> really important here... or what?
>> --
>> Kim
>
> Changing the extension on a PHP script to .asp will not
accomplish anything.
> If anything, it should cause the script to break since
IIS will try to use
> the asp.dll to process the page (unless the server is
configured not to, but
> that's just odd).
> I don't think the guy knows what he's talking about.
>
>
Kim
http://www.geekministry.com

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>
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bussa

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Many thanks
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