Library sorting question

I hate that all of my albums are split up when sorted by genre . I have tried 'Album artist' and 'Part of a compilation.'
All I ask for is how can I sort by Genre, Album, then Track and not Genre, artist, then album?
-Thanks, Nick
home built AMD 4200+ Windows XP Pro Nvidia 6800, 37Gb Raptor, 21" Samsung 204B

Hi, Nick.
Have you activated the iTunes Browser display panel?
If not go to the iTunes View menu > Show Browser option.
Then go to the iTunes Edit menu > Preferences > Advanced tab > General sub-tab and select Show genre when browsing.
Now you can select a genre in the Browser and sort the contents of your iTunes Library for that genre by clicking on the Album column heading.
Is that what you're looking for?

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I have 12 songs with the same album title, same genre, same album artist but with different song names and artist.
But regardless of how I try to tell iTunes that it has to sort this one by album artist and not the artist, it never does.
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Which in my opinion is the wrong and oldschool approach.

Yes, I have just checked and rechecked it again. I have set an Album Artist value for each songs and the album in general. And even if i add the Album by Artist to my list view and sort after that. It still acts up. It can't for some reason keep the correct collections together, eventhough they are set as a collection in options.
But i don't really, keeping collections together didn't used to be a problem before. But i will keep trying some different things. But it's pretty annoying, that iTunes has such trouble with this.
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You are talking about the partially transparent grey bar that appears when hovering over an answer in the Sequence type of questions. There is no style that can be customized AFAIK. It is not even changing with the included themes. Same is valid for the connecting lines in matching questions that are always black, color cannot be changed for them neither. It is a pity, would recommend you enter a feature request to be able to customize the color of both the hover bar and those lines.
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I would agree with Lee Jay; if you have a parent folder, then everything in the folder hierarchy displays correctly, in numerical order (using your setting of c:\yyyy\). And it displays sub-folders in numerical/alphabetic order too.
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I want to move to Aperture, but I need some advice first. (I have considered Aperture in the past, but my expectations and demands were unrealistic. Now I am trying to be as realistic as possible about what I want from Aperture.)
I have learned that Aperture 3 in fact supports syncing libraries between computers. Before I attempt this however I want to find out from you people whether what I want to do will work.
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I have Mac Pro which contains the following types of files dating from 1997:
RAW + JPEG pairs from my DSLR, mirrorless, and compact cameras
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I want to have a "master" Aperture library on the Mac Pro. I will add all my existing files into the master library in a 'referenced' fashion -- they will remain where they are in the current directory structure on the 2TB RAID.
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I want to use the "satellite" library on the MacBook Pro to perform tagging, adding location data, rating, further organizing, etc. and then sync those changes back to the "master" library on the Mac Pro.
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If the "satellite" library has only the JPEGs available on the local drive, then will any metadata changes made in the "satellite" library properly sync back to the JPEG+RAW pairs in the "master" library? I.e. will Aperture still apply changes in metadata to both the RAWs and JPEGs, even though the RAWs were not present on the "satellite"?
Will Aperture allow me to group other versions of the file besides the RAW and JPEG on the master library? Will metadata to just the JPEG also be applied to these other versions upon syncing, as described above?
Is it a "two-way sync" -- i.e. will changes made to the master library also sync back to the satellite library? (If not, that's OK with me, because presumably after merging the satellite into the master, I can delete the satellite library, then re-copy the master back to the laptop to make a new satellite library -- I am also going to have copy over any new JPEG files to the laptop as well, so I don't mind copying one extra file [the new satellite library].)
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I am not sure I understand you fully - what kind of file referencing are you speaking of?
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Regards
Léonie

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I have some questions concerning the way iTunes sorts my Library.
I'd like it to sort the classical section on composer, instead of artist. My library is sorted on Genre primary, and perhaps it's impossible to sort only one genre on Genre-Composer-Album . If so, I'll accept that.
However, this next one should be possible in some way:
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How do I get iTunes to keep tha different albums sorted together in Soundtrack genre?
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I am now in the process of dragging them all into a soundtracks playlist, which is a little better because at least the songs stay in the right order. I would love to be able to drag the album title into the playlist and then go onto the next song list screen from there.
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Library Syncing Question

OK I have two Macs and an iPad and an iPhone.
Here's what I currently do, using non-Aperture products:
1) I transfer RAW+JPEG from my camera to my iPad.
2) I use Image Capture to transfer the images from iPad into an "Unsorted" folder.
3) I sort the pictures using Adobe Bridge, then organize them into folders, which are also organized into other folders, and so-on. They are done by main category such as "Events/Shows", "Work", "Trips", "Cats", "Friends", "House", "Landscape", "Macro", etc. ((The categories aren't perfect though and I started to realize I have a lot of pictures that fit multiple categories, hence why I want to start using an image management software like Aperture.))
4) When I edit a file, I open the RAW into Photoshop CS5 or Olympus Studio and use that software to make a new .PSD or .TIF file, appending the file name with single letter codes that indicate what I have done to the file (+o for olympus studio, +a for adobe CS5, +s for sharpened, +h for hdr, +p for pano, +w for web resolution version,+f for flattened version of a multi-layer file, etc.). I also add a 1.1 or 1.2 to the filename if I make successive versions. Then I save it to the same folder that the original was saved in so that I don't have to go looking for it should I want to burn it to CD to take into the lab to get printed.
5) I sync all my JPEGs only to the MacBook Pro, and keep the RAW+JPEG on the Mac Pro since it has 7 TB of storage and redundant backed up arrays. But I do most of my photo editing on the MacBook Pro, then sync the new edited versions back to the Mac Pro. I use ChronoSync to do the syncing.
Problem with my current method: I cannot sync to the iPad in an organized way nor add location information to my photos.
Here's what I'd like to do:
1) On the MacBook Pro and Mac Pro, maintain a *referenced* Aperture library by adding referenced links into Aperture to all my existing files, which would stay where they currently are. ((I don't feel like giving up my folder organization scheme that I've been building up for 15 years, and which contains over 50,000 images.)) Then I would sync Aperture between the MacBook Pro and Mac Pro whenever I also sync the folders (any changes to one would become reflected in the other).
2) When I would add JPEGs to the MacBook Pro's Aperture library via referenced links, then on the Mac Pro the referenced links would point at the copies of the files that are on *its* local hard drive. So in other words, the referenced links in the Aperture library *must* be something like: ~/Pictures/MyFolder/myimage001.jpg INSTEAD of something like: /MyHardDriveName/Users/MyUserName/Pictures/MyFolder/myimage001.jpg. If Aperture is able to use links that reference to the User directory, then syncing between the computers will go smoothly. Otherwise it won't work at all. So this step is critical. I'd like to know before I attempt this whether or not this will work.
3) I will also want Aperture to automatically use a Spotlight search scope that I define to find files that have been moved. I organize my files by moving them around in folders; if something gets moved then I need Aperture to go look for it. It should keep a checksum for the key metadata of each file and the filename in its database so that it can intelligently search and automatically repair broken links using Spotlight. Or, failing that, it needs to allow me to manually tell it where I have moved files in the (somewhat rare) cases when I move them after adding them to Aperture.
4) I want Aperture to let me use Adobe Photoshop CS5 or Olympus Studio to convert RAW to JPG, whenever I want, and automatically add any edited versions of the files that I manipulate back into its database. So in other words it would watch the folders that I have added images from, and if any new files appear there, then it would automatically add links to them to the Aperture database (like how Picasa does with its watch folders).
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6) I also want to sync my Aperture library to my iPad using iTunes from my MacBook Pro. (I already started doing this on an experimental basis, but I noticed there is still no way to rate pictures on the iPad and I haven't tried making new albums from the iPad yet and syncing them back.)
I'm sure I'll think of some other requirements but those are the must-haves. Does anyone know if Aperture is capable of doing this, or is it not a professional application quite yet?
On point 3), perhaps it's possible to use AppleScripts to add files that are added to certain folders into Aperture instead of having Aperture do it upon launch? Anyone know? If so does anyone know of such scripts?
Are there any pros out there who actually let Aperture store your photos in its library? If so then how did you transition your existing large image library into Aperture? I don't think I have enough spare hard drive space to import my 1.5TB photo library into a new copy of it, plus all the frakking previews and everything else that Aperture generates. I guess I just fail to see why Aperture insists on using a Library instead of doing things in a Mac-like way (folders). It seems very strange and odd to me that Apple would have written a program that does not even obey the Macintosh user interface principles like having a standard open/save dialog box, file/folder interface, using the trash can to delete things, etc. Am I the only one who feels like they are starting to smoke something weird in Cupertino?
- Mac Daddie

1. There is no need to use Aperture in Managed Mode - where it stores the files in its own Library. Aperture is perfectly happy running in Referenced Mode - the files are stored where you prefer - and its an option in the import dialogue.
2. It's not a photo editor or file browser. You seem to be confusing it with Bridge or somesuch. It's a Photo Manager - database forcussed on processing the output of a shoot in a losslessly. That's why it doesn't use Open and Save dialogues and so on. The point of Aperture is that you import your Photos and store the files whereever, and get on with working on the Photos.
If you're very attached to your current workflow I would skip Aperture. An alternative workflow using Aperture would be much simpler. Import to Aperture (storing the files where you will) sort them in Aperture, process them in Aperture etc. No need to save as tiffs or psds - in fact, the only time you need to decide what to do with the product of your effort is when you export for some reason. You can create multiple versions (and append whatever codes you prefer to these versions and so on.) Photos you want to further edit, send to Photoshop or whatever you prefer. Though the very common experience is that you will use these editors a lot less than you do now.
You can have multiple Libraries, export projects as Libraries to keep Libraries on two machines in sync and so on.
So, working with Aperture in your current workflow would only be adding unnecessary complexity to an already complex workflow. If you're prepared to negotiate on the workflow, you may find an easier way to get the same results with Aperture.
Regards
TD

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Yes. That itunes sharing feature lets folks in dorms & offices share music.
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Hello,
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Victoria

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When I originally imported some 15k photos from iPhoto into Aperture 1 it appears that I copied folders/ albums but they did NOT go into the Aperture library (I think I may have forgotten to tick the copy to library button). I want to have all masters and all photos in the library. How can I: a) be sure that my originals are in the library and; b) move everything (15K+) of photos from various albums/ folders I have in Aperture 2 into the library?
When I tried to work on project (new book) I noticed by dragging photos from albums that it was asking if I wanted to move masters. This is when I noticed that I fear my masters are in folders rather than library. Any thoughts much welcome.

No problem, this is what these boards are made for; questions and answers.
iPhoto always leave the originals in their location and creates a JPEG- version inside the iPhoto Library. This is not only true for RAW- images but also for importing JPEG's. Then, when you imported the iPhoto Library into Aperture the first time you had to choose if the images should remain in their location (referenced) or managed in the Aperture library. If you told Aperture to import them as referenced, then the masters live in their original location and not inside iPhoto since iPhoto also had these images as referenced.
If you told Aperture to import the iPhoto library as managed images, then all the (iPhoto referenced) images were imported into the Aperture library.
As I wrote earlier, Aperture will verify each image when you start to consolidate them. Mind you though, when consolidating the images that came from iPhoto: You will, as usual, get the option to move or copy the images into the Aperture library. If you choose to move them, then Aperture will go to their original location and move them into the library. This will give you a warning in iPhoto telling you that the original is missing when you try to CTRL / Right- click an image or select an image and try to go to the Images menu.
So, when consolidating images from iPhoto, IMO the better solution is to copy the images into the Aperture library if you would like to work with the images in iPhoto as well. It will make duplicates of your images so this is a choice the individual user have to take.
Hope this helped you understand the structure and how to work with the two libraries when it comes to importing and consolidating.
Regards
Paul K

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I create a Libary on my MacBook Air it has 2000 songs. I want to move this to my Mac Book Pro machine and then Sync it with a new purchased iPod Touch. Can this be done and how. Do I just copy the iTunes Media folder?
I tested this and it copied to my Mac Book Pro by coping the iTunes Media folder at the file level to the Music ITunes folder on my Mac Book Pro held down the option key and selected the library. It opened fine on my Mac Book Pro just fine. Then I decided to test coping it to a device. I have a very old iPod I choose some songs and sync it. Worked fine can listen to the music on the iPod but when I go to iTunes all the music from the iPod is grayed out. I can play it from iTunes. WHY?
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1. I create my iTunes library the way I want it on my MacBook Air.
2. I copy it (is there a special way) to my MacBook Pro open iTunes holding down the option key choose this library and it should work where I can play music in iTunes.
My exact question is this.
If I purchase a 32GB iPod Touch can I plug it into my Macbook Pro and Sync it and it will copy the music over will the music from my library play and work on both in iTunes and on the newly pruchase iPod Touch.
I am trying to fine this out before purchasing the iPod Touch.
Are they coming out with new modeled iPod Touches in Oct? Should I wait is my question.

click here http://lifehacker.com/242468/geek-to-live--how-to-move-an-itunes-library-from-a- pc-to-mac-and-back
and here http://www.myfirstmac.com/index.php/mac/articles/how-do-i-move-my-itunes-library -from-pc-to-mac-and-keep-my-settings-intact/
and here http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2518

Iphoto library folder question.

Don't quite know how to word this one but here goes. If i go to Finder and click on the Pictures icon, i see an iPhoto Library icon. If i highlight that then click on the small wheel cog thing drop down menu above it and go to "Open With" i see several "iPhoto" options. The top one says default but under that there are four more iPhoto icons. Whichever one i click on it seems to open iPhoto correctly but why do i have so many, i only have one iPhoto Library on my mac. I went to the apple store today but they couldn't answer my question,. I did have a look at thier macs scattered about the store and they all seem to have this issue. Some of them had two iPhoto icons, some had three. I was expecting there to be only one?
What causes there to be so many?
I'm just a neat freak so these things puzzle me.

Hi Leonie. Thanks for such a swift reply. As far as i can see i only have one version of iPhoto installed. I've only had the Mac for less than a year and haven't changed any settings.
As i say, i had a quick play with the Macs in the Apple store and most of them had this same thing. There were one or two that just had the iPhoto showing once.
When i click on "Open With"...it's listed as follows          iPhoto (default)
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Whichever one i click on to it opens iPhoto with no problem. I'm just confused as to why there are four.
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