Lightroom to CS2 to JPEG?

I'm experiencing trouble exporting files from Lightroom then editing them with CS2 then saving them as jpeg. Even if the initial export from lightroom 2 was jpeg! This is apparently a documented bug fixed in CS3 and CSS4 but not in CS2. The solution provided here: http://www.flickr.com/groups/adobe_lightroom/discuss/72157607023379578/ works. Is there a way to script this modification?
Todd

It might be better to try and see if exifTool will do this.
http://www.sno.phy.queensu.ca/~phil/exiftool/faq.html

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Is there anyone out there who can tell me why the xap metadata is written so differently in lightroom jpegs as compared to bridge CS2?
I've had writtena feature on my dynamic gallery on my website that reads the xap rating in bridge-produced jpegs, but doesn't work with lightroom produced ones. When I read the metadata from the 2, the structure was totally different. I dont suppose anyone from the development team would care to tell us how lightroom and bridge CS2 read the different xap structures - it would give me a clue how to re-write the function on my website.
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Sorry - this is the iPhoto for Mac support forum - Your question does not involve iPhtoo for the Mac in any way - you need to contact Adobe or use an Adobe LR support forum for LR support
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Hello,
I have been going crazy trying to solve this issue and can't find a solution. I am using Lightroom 3.4.1 on a Mac running 10.6.7. In Lightroom I am editing raw images from a Canon 7D. I tweak and adjust the images to my liking but when I export them as a JPEG at full quality using color space sRGB my jpegs do not look like my adjusted photos in Lightroom. The biggest missing factor is all my "detail" adjustments. Sharpening ect. The colors are slightly less vibrant but the huge issue is the sharpening I do that disappears. Can anyone help me with this? I will supply an example below. On the left is the jpeg and on the right is the grab from Lightroom. I am viewing the jpegs in preview and don't have photoshop. Thanks in advance for any help!

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Your comment also makes me realize that you do not really understand the sharpening in Lightroom. The detail tools in Develop are meant to optimize what is called capture sharpening. These should NOT be used to optimize sharpness at the fit view level, but only at the 1:1 view level. They operate basically on the image to correct for image blur that comes from the sensor's antialias filter and for a small amount of lens blur (say when you are diffraction limited owing to use of large f-numbers). Do not zoom out and play with the detail setting. Zoom into 1:1 on certain areas and optimize the sharpening. There are many tutorials on the web that explain this. Then when you go to output your image, you need to apply another sharpening, called output sharpening, at the final size, in order to correct for blur introduced by the output medium such as a printer or a display and by rescaling the image. The print panel has this built in. In the export panel, the options are in the lower tabs. You need to rescale the image to your final size (for example, a 533x800 pixel image is typical for a good web sized image). Then also apply the correct output sharpening in the tab below it. Typical would be to sharpen for screen at a standard amount. I showed some comparisons on this around the LR 2 timeframe here: http://lagemaat.blogspot.com/2008/08/on-output-sharpening.html The output sharpening has improved by quite a bit by now from those examples, but they show the general idea.
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25MB is quite a large filesize for a JPG, and this might be either quite a lot of pixels saved at a very "high" quality (not very much compressed), or it may be an extremely large number of pixels saved with medium compression.
While the technical spec of the JPG format imposes an absolute limit on maximum width and height pixel dimensions, some software employs a lower limit above which it considers the file to be invalid. Different programs, different limits, sometimes.
I have encountered this (for example) with pano stitched images using the full resolution of a large number of component shots - where JPG output could not be made, or if made, could not even be viewed as a whole by my standard image viewer (though TIFF was still OK even at still larger sizes).
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I followed all tutorials for color checker-lightroom and succeeded to sync my JPEG images into the camera profile I want.
However, these are JPEG images from the camera. I want to work with raw file or at least PSD file.
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I am doing minor edits in lightroom, before exporting jpgs to Photoshop for creative edits.
Even using the maximum export size, a 20mb RAW file turns into a 4mb jpg. Then, when further edits are done in Photoshop, and resaved (using Autoloader), the file size reduces to just 2mb.
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Find the solution here:
http://www.flickr.com/groups/adobe_lightroom/discuss/72157607023379578/
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Just to make sure I did have something else messed up, I converted in DPP to tiff and then went to CS2 and saved as JPG just fine.
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Which operating system are you using?
Which camera are the camera raw files from?
Did you convert the files to dng using lightroom or the standalone dng converter?
If using the standalone dng converter, which version?
In the dng converter did you try setting the Compatibility for Camera Raw 2.4 and later
(Preferences>Compatibility)
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Lightroom JPEG files far larger than equivalent Photoshop files?

I'm using Lightroom 2.3 on a Mac. If I take an image and export it from Lightroom as a JPEG at the 60 quality setting, the resulting JPEG is typically around 2-3 times larger than the same file saved from Adobe Photoshop CS3 using the High Quality setting in 'Save for Web and Devices'.
Lightroom does not appear to be generating a preview or anything else that would account for the disparity.
To get Lightroom to shrink files down to the sizes that Photoshop produces, I need to reduce the quality to a level at which the images contain glaring JPEG artifacts.
I'd like to use Lightroom as part of my web workflow, but this is pretty much a showstopper. Exporting to TIFF, then using Photoshop batch actions to try to automate a conversion to JPEG runs into the problem that Photoshop's "Save for Web and Devices" command can't be fully automated (it's not possible to override the save location).
So my questions are:
1. Why is Lightroom's JPEG compression so poor in comparison to Photoshop's?
2. Is there any way to get around this?
3. Is it safe to use Photoshop's standard 'Save as ...' command in place of 'Save for Web and Devices' when preparing images for the web (I have a distant memory that 'Save As ...' used to export metadata that would choke certain browsers, but I don't know if that's still true in CS3).

It looks as if metadata contributes about 4-8K to the image. Photoshop is stripping a large part of the metadata (even with 'include XMP' on), which contributes to the difference, but doesn't explain it completely.
Here are some test results:
Test Image #1: 660 x 440:
Lightroom 2 (60, with metadata) - 170,904 bytes
Lightroom 2 (60, without metadata) - 164,142 bytes
Photoshop CS3 (60, no metadata) - 141,489 bytes
Photoshop CS3 (30, no metadata) - 72,394 bytes
Test Image #2: 660 x 440 (no metadata)
Lightroom 2 (70) - 124,231 bytes
Lightroom 2 (60) - 88,448 bytes
Lightroom 2 (60) - 80,560 bytes
Photoshop CS3 (Save for Web 70) - 94,032 bytes
Photoshop CS3 (Save for Web 60) - 69,654 bytes
Photoshop CS3 (Save for Web 30) - 32,287 bytes
Photoshop CS3 (Save 8) - 93,517 bytes
Photoshop CS3 (Save 7) - 73,067 bytes
However, there's a quality difference to be taken into account as well. Photoshop 60 is about equivalent to Lightroom 70.
To compare the images, I took the original image (scaled to 660 x 440 by Lightroom) and layered the JPEG over it, then set the layer to 'Difference' to reveal JPEG compression artifacts. Lightroom at quality level 60 shows visible artifacts; Photoshop Save for Web at level 60 does not. To get the artifacts to disappear, I have to take Lightroom up to about 70, by which time the Lightroom files are almost twice the size of the Photoshop files.
Just for amusement, I tried Graphic Converter as well. GC is a great program, but its JPEG conversion turns out to be vile: even at a quality setting of 100, the artifacting on fine near-vertical lines is obvious to the naked eye.
Using Photoshop's own 'Save' (rather than 'Save for Web') command yields similar results. quality level 8 in 'Save' appears to be fractionally poorer than quality level 60 in 'Save for Web'.

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