Logic Pro 9.1 and TDM - The Deafening Silence!!!

Where on earth did TDM compatibility go? I know that in the recent Pro Tools 8.0.3 update Digidesign mentioned that Logic Pro would no longer be supported, but there hasn't been a peep out of Apple on the matter. There's not a single mention in the 9.1 update documentation about TDM, the TDM and DTDM tabs in the Audio Devices prefs have disappeared, and yet on the [Logic Pro product page|http://www.apple.com/logicstudio/logicpro> under Compatibility, Apple still bodly claims that, and I quote:
"Logic Pro *fully supports* Apple Core Audio and *Pro Tools HD hardware*. That gives you the freedom to work with almost any audio interface, and even combine the inputs and outputs of multiple devices."
and further:
"You can plug in any TDM or Audio Units software instrument or effect."
Excuse me for being ultra picky here, but the Digi CoreAudio driver only accesses 8 channels of I/O on a Digi 192 and you cannot use TDM plug-ins. That's not what I would describe as full support!

Well I would love you to come and look at my rig sometime. I have a cacophony of issues ranging from crashes when looking for audio files when booting session, plug-ins not recalling or displaying graphics properly, random crashes, audio "not being recorded"
These issues mentioned (and a host of others) I have spoken to both apple and digidesign at great legenth, have only had both companies passing the buck from one to the other.
From Apple
"I just informed my collegue ** about the issue being isolated to miscommunication between your digidesign system and Logic pro.
Since the latest version of Protools did not stop the DAE engine from causing the crashes and this issue can only be fixed by a hardware driver the only solution to this would be a to obtain a driver update from Digidesign.
My collegue Peggy is definitely willing to discuss all the frustrations this issue has caused but It is very important that I explain that Apple would be unable to do anything concerning the Digidesign driver for the Digidesign PROTOOLS HD3 ACCEL system.
All drivers for digidesign hardware are included inside the protools applications as Digidesign products are Hardware/software bundle.
Even updating Logic pro would not fix this type of issues as communication between a PCIe cards and a software solely depends on the driver of the card.
From Digidesign
Even though we do work with Apple, and do address certain issues ourselves, it is ultimately their responsibility to ensure that their software works with our hardware and not the other way around. As previously established the Pro Tools software works fine with the hardware which means that the hardware is working without issue and that the problem is software related.
Thanks guys.
So, no. In my experience "it works" in very scant terms indeed.

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Provide Feedback for the Logic Pro User Manual and Onscreen Help Here

The Apple documentation team for Logic Pro would like to know what you think about the Logic Pro Help documentation (available in the Help menu):
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• What are the most important concepts/features a new user has to understand to get started with Logic?
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• Do you use multiple computer displays?

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circumstances do you use it most?
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• Do you use the printed manual or the onscreen help
more? Which one do you prefer?
I use them both, but the onscreen help a little more often. Some times I like to walk away from the computer and sit on the couch and read the manual, just to have a change of scenery
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PDF search?
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• What do you like about the Logic help?
It's right there on the computer, and being able to search by key words
• What would you like to see us improve? What is
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• What needs more in-depths coverage in the Logic
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good introduction to the application? Is there
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