Logical page/Physical page/Page Break

I have to create a form like report. Without data it takes 3 A4 pages, with data it can expand to 5 pages or more. So in report developer I create for Main section: Width=21 Height=29.7, Horizontal Panels per page=1, Vertical Panels per page=3.
First problem:
When I run the report with data, which coused that report expands to more then 3 A4 pages, I can only see and print 3 pages. I want to have all pages.
Second problem:
Inside report there is repating frame with more repeating frames inside for displayin some sort of tables. I want that each record of outer repeating frame is on new A4 page. I set Page break before=Yes for outer frame. When I run report I can see the data before the frame and then two blank pages. I think that Page break before=Yes makes page break for logical page (in my case 3 A4 pages) and then I am on the first problem. How to make Page Break for one A4 (physical) page only?
Any ideas how to solve these problems?
Regards, Sasa

Hi Nguyen,
It was pretty difficult running the report. Here are the changes I made so that the report runs sucessfully:
1. Changed "Vertical Panels per Page" to 1. The reason: this property equates pages in your report to priter pages. Eg, a value of 2 means that each page in your report is equivalent to 2 physical printer pages. This may be needed if you design very large pages, but the dimensions of physial printer pages are smaller. We do not need this. So I changed it to 1.
2. In Paper Layout editor, fit everything on 1 page. At runtime it can flow to more than 1 page, no problem. But we want to 'design' 1 page. It was just overflowing a little bit on to the 2nd page, I changed it so that it fits on 1st page itself.
3. Changed "Print Object On" to First Page, instead of All pages for all frames and boilerplate text objects. Reason - page breaks here refer only to Logical pages, not to physical pages as you might have imagined. For the report, everything is 1 logical page, even though you see the output on 3-5 physical pages. Pl see Report Builder Help on this property, it explains things with graphics.
The hardest part was step 3 - it took me a long while to figure that out.
Now the report appears correctly with all the data. Now the only problem is to figure out how to do a page break before M37. We can figure that out, but first can you try these changes, and let me know that you are at least getting ALL DATA in your report output?
Navneet.

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