Looking for a tiling WM?

Hello, I'm trying to find a Tiling WM, I really like the way it works, but I don't like having a bar at the top. What's the most similar tiling WM that doesn't come default with a nasty eyesore?

Rasi wrote:
sand_man wrote:
Theomachos wrote:ratpoison - cult
What does that mean??
He probably means "Its a classic" - typical german mistake
*sigh* fixed
Btw:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Com … w_Managers

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[SOLVED]Looking for a tiling manager which supports multiple monitors

I use musca and I absolutely have no problems with it other than this :
http://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php? … 04#p774104
I also tried emailing the musca distribution list but it bounced, so I am not sure how actively it is being maintained.
So I am on the lookout for a new tiling window manager. I know Xmonad supports multiple monitors, but I do not know haskell and I was hoping to find something else as well. Xmonad is also not a manual tiler.
So let me know if anyone of you knows of a tiler that has the above support.
EDIT : I have already looked at the Comparison of Tiling Window Managers over at the wiki. Infact I was the one who added Musca's entry in that table.
Last edited by Inxsible (2010-07-13 05:49:13)

Inxsible wrote:I installed i3 - along with the i3status - which I still have to figure out. I am liking what I see as of now. It reminds me of wmii -- when I used it way back when. However I do not like the title bar. I would much rather prefer a 1 px border around the focused window.
"i3 was created because wmii, our favorite window manager at the time, didn't provide some features we wanted (multi-monitor done right, for example), had some bugs, didn't progress since quite some time and wasn't easy to hack at all (source code comments/documentation completely lacking). Still, we think the wmii developers and contributors did a great job. Thank you for inspiring us to create i3. "
To change the border of the current client, you can use bn to use the normal border (including window title), bp to use a 1-pixel border (no window title) and bb to make the client borderless. There is also bt which will toggle the different border styles.
Examples:
bindsym Mod1+t bn
bindsym Mod1+y bp
bindsym Mod1+u bb
or put in your config file
new_window bb
from: http://i3.zekjur.net/docs/userguide.html (you probably already found that by now )

[SOLVED] Looking for a tiling WM with a certain feature

I've been using openbox/pekwm for a few years I recently tried tiling window managers again (tried them a few years ago and hated them) and I'm hooked but after trying just about all of the popular ones and reading the man pages/web sites I can't find any that have a certain feature I'd like (maybe I've just completely missed it). What I'd like is to have firefox in the master area (left hand side, about 50-60% width), whatever else I have open (usually one or two terminals and thunar) in the slave area and then pidgin buddy list open in a small thin area on the right hand side of the screen.
I'm not fussed about status/task bars or anything like that (but being able to add my own would be a bonus), prefer no window borders (like i3 or wmii) and would prefer something easy to configure (I don't mind learning haskell if xmonad is perfect for my needs but I'd rather avoid awesome as I've heard the config changes often and I'm not too keen on the built in task bar etc)
Thanks
Last edited by descendent87 (2010-02-16 14:12:41)

descendent87 wrote:what's the difference in dynamic and manual tyling managers?
Dynamic tilers have one or more pre-defined layouts for you to choose from and arrange the frames accordingly, while in manual tilers, you choose the size/arrangement of frames yourself.
What I'd ideally like is something where I can set so that firefox/chromium/uzbl (whatever browser I'm using) always opens in the master area, pidgin always opens in the far right hand side and anything else (terminals, thunar, mplayer) always opens in the slave erea (inbetween web browser and pidgin).
Well, this is doable with musca, though I've never even tried to set it up that way Though it's probably along the lines of:
* Put commands in a ~/.musca_start file
* In this file, set up frames as you want using commands like hsplit, vsplit, etc.
* Set focus to the frame you want browser to appear in (also with above commands), start browser, dedicate frame to browser so no other window will appear in the same frame
* focus next frame, start Pidgin
* etc.
Unfortunately, this won't work with multiple browser windows, for example, since the dedicate command won't allow several browser windows to appear in the same frame. Also, my solution is *very* ugly (seems more like an Excel macro to me rather than a properly scripted solution ). There's probably a lot more possible with proper use of wmctrl, but I never got around doing much with it. If you really do want full control over your layout, I should probably recommend Xmonad, but I've had zero experience with it (a >500MiB ghc is a little spooky).

Looking for tiling + Gnome

I've been looking for an easy to use tiling window manager to use with Gnome. One that doesn't require a lot of configuration. In the past, I have used KDE primarily and really liked the idea of kwin tiling. In fact, kwin tiling is pretty much exactly what I am looking for. I want something that automatically maximizes and tiles according to a chosen layout. Resizing one window resizes the rest of the windows accordingly. I was under the impression that the compiz grid plugin was what I was looking for but unfortunately not. It seems to only be able to place windows in a tile-like format with keyboard shortcuts. I'm looking for something that tiles automatically.
Are there any options out there for me or should I switch back to KDE?

Any window manager can replace gnomes' one so the question I guess is what are the dynamic tiling window managers.
Here is a comparison of the tilers, you'll want one with a text config and dynamic not manual tiling.
A quick perusal would suggest wmfs as being one of the more popular - and there's a healthy thread in here about it.
HTH
Last edited by moetunes (2011-02-13 06:47:28)

Looking for a light weight tiled window manager.

Hello everyone,
I am looking for a light weight window manager with tile support. I am a programmer by hobby and I like to be able to maximize my screen real estate.
I love hot key and terminal use it just speeds up the process. I don't however want it to have a huge scripting learning curve. Currently I am in the process of learning Android development so having to learn a new scripting language on top of it won't make matters better.
Currently I am comfortable with bash, and python. I can also do some work in perl but not super fluent with it yet.
It would also help if it has dual monitor support. My main monitor is a 23" LCD max res 1920x1080 and my second monitor is a 17" LCD max res 1440x900 until I get around to picking up another 23".

Runiq wrote:
Search first, post later:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Lig … plications
another good wiki page is the tiler comparison, the chart shows vitals, like what they are configured in
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Com … w_Managers
Last edited by hume's doona (2010-10-08 12:17:51)

New window manager (with prototype!) [wmii-like] --- looking for help

I have a prototype for a new window manager in the style of wmii. It is called
cakewm. I currently have a prototype version implemented in pygame, and would
like help moving this to use X---making it a real window manager.
Disclaimer: I have a very limited knowledge of X11 and window manager
development. The most I've done is add a couple new features to wmfs.
To get the code
> git clone git://github.com/saikobee/cakewm.git
Then run main.py. cakewm depends on pygame.
Upon running, press Alt-Enter to fullscreen cakewm and intercept keybinds, or
Alt-Space to just intercept keybinds. Press Alt-Esc to quit. The window
manager related keybinds are listed in the file binds.conf.
Config note: <WSCA-x> means Windows-Shift-Control-Alt-x
Implementation note: pypixel.py is a large and mostly useless dependency. I
forked a library I made previously rather than coding straight in pygame.
cakewm's goals are to be similar to wmii, but with more functionality, easier
configurability, and saner defaults.
- cakewm is fully functional using the keyboard. Mouse support can come later.
- cakewm provides 9 workspaces per monitor.
- cakewm manages each workspace as a group of columns. Each column is like a
wmii default split, except each window can have other windows "stacked" on
top of or behind it.
- cakewm manages column sizes (and window sizes within columns) using a
master/slave paradigm, with the ability to adjust the size ratios.
- cakewm's configuration file is simple key=val pairs, with the ability to
include other files like in C.
- cakewm has a slightly larger emphasis on window decorations (adjustable
size---even in tiled mode) and themes (nothing bloated, like pixmaps or
gradients---it's all still simple colors).
- cakewm will have proper support for international text (Japanese text in
window titles or the wmii status bar generally render as boxes) through the
use of a more advanced text library such as Pango.
Please let me know if you have comments, questions, or concerns. If you are
interested in helping, get in touch with me. If you know somewhere better to
look for volunteers, please let me know.

m4co wrote:
Wow is this forum active. Makes me feel welcome here
The thing about wireless, I actually like command line, but there are a few things that are worth having a applet or something.
And wireless is one of those. I guess I can take a look on wicd.
It's a good idea to have compiz as the WM actually. Would it be lightweight to have it like that?
Is there anybody here that uses compiz as a WM?
For the xfce4-panel, is it possible to get transparency on it? That's probably the only thing holding me back with xfce4-panel.
If "able to run compiz" wasn't a requisite, what other WM would you suggest for my "profile" ?
I would like to hear other users opinions who like to customize everything on a WM.
I recommend running Compiz by itself. There is a good wiki page on it in the Arch wiki. Some apps you'll want to go with it are:
LXAppearance --change GTK/icon theme
Feh or Nitrogen --Set Wallpaper
Xfce4-panel --The lightest one that works with Compiz properly
Or, if you don't want a panel: stalonetray
Compiz-deskmenu --For a customizable right-click main menu
Gmrun --Run dialog (Alt+F2 in most DEs)
And this helped me a lot.
Thank you all for the replies. I appreciate.
Xfce4-panel can have transparency. The only problem is that everything become transparent: text, icons, everything.
I use Compiz as a standalone WM and it is much lighter than DE+Compiz. My Compiz setup uses about 30MB(out of 1GB) more RAM than my Openbox setup (which are both the same except for the WM).

Looking for a pager with advanced functionalities

Hello everyone,
I am looking for a pager with which I could put custom icons for the different workspaces.
I have an HTPC that is mainly used for three things: watching movies, playing music and browsing the internet. Therefore, I would like to have four workspaces, one for each of these and another one for administration. Since this is an HTPC, I'd like it to look good and I think it would be neat to have images instead of numbers/squares for the workspaces: a movie reel for the "movies" workspace, a note for "music", etc... I have been looking at pagers on the wiki, but most of the links are broken. I am currently running XFCE, but would install another WM for this. The idea came to me because I could do this on awesome 3, which is installed on my laptop, but my roommates are firmly opposed to a tiling WM on the HTPC.
If anybody can provide suggestions, they will be very welcome.
Cheers,
François

Howdy-ha- flamirande. I don't want to be a total prick, as it's not my place; it's yours. Xfwm or Awesome will get the job done, won't it? You might be able to wow them if you get a universal remote and set up a proper lirc connection, letting them sit on the couch and have the power at the press of a finger. I have some friends with XBMC (the real thing--a dedicated, old-school Xbox hacked with BSD for all their media), and they're more satisfied with the results it provides than how it looks. Yeah, their Win and Mac PCs (both my friends' and your roomates') give them Facebook and YouTube, but yours gives them music, movies and tv and internet on demand, at a smaller resource cost and with a more versatile core and interface. If they're so touchy about polish, let them figure it out. I'm not just saying this as the sorry excuse for a computer geek that I am, but also as a person who's been dealing with many roommates for roughly a decade. I mean I don't know your situation but what do they think, the setup you give 'em is supposed to get them attention?
If these folks can't be satisfied by the fact that your system can provide them with a reliable, versatile, centralized, kick-ass setup that theirs can't, well...
More constructively: If they just won't have it...maybe openbox and tint2? You've got a low ram and cpu demand there, keeping music from skipping and video from tearing, if you work it out properly. Openbox has always been my choice for the right balance between polish and minimalism.

Looking for a standalone application/system menu

Most (all?) desktop environments features some kind of application menu in the panel. But for the people running more lightweight environments (like just a tiled wm) have no reason to have an extra panel around just for the menu.
I know about application launchers, such as launchy and gmrun, but the thing I'm looking for is something that could give me a list of all "bigger" programs installed, grouped by category. Because, simply, I can never remember all stuff I've installed over the years.
So I'm thinking: there must be someone out there that has developed a standalone application menu?
Either the program could just scan the "/usr/share/applications" direcotry, or one could try to extract the menu part from a panel program, such as lxpanel?

Hey, adeskmenu seem to be exactly what I'm looking for! Thanks a lot! :-)
(now just need to find out why the aur version crashes... no problem, though. seems to be other versions around that works)

Looking for some suggestions

Hello, Just looking for some web developers/designer's to give some suggestions on window managers that may be suited to your profession more so than others, maybe highlight the pro's/con's if you could. I guess what I am really trying to decipher is which window manager is best suited for a web developer/designer, there seems to be a wealth of options to choose from. Thanks

prog wrote:
ewaller wrote:
prog wrote:Apologies if I have posted this in the incorrect section !
Big brother is watching you
But /dev/zero is correct, these type of threads usually devolve into endless opinions, flame wars, along with a pinch of trolling, and some company usually gets slandered.
I've read the script -- in the end, it comes down to just try them until you find the tools you like.
ah sorry, my intention was never to start a silly flame war. I am going to spend some time trying out tiling WM's other than Xmonad, It's kind of annoying since I'm forced to use win7 at work, and the contrast between work->home is quite large.
If you like tiling, try the "plug.n" autohotkey script/app on your work windows box. Does a very good job - or at least as good as is possible.
There is a limitation if you need to use stuff like VMs. But this is getting a bit OT, so i'll leave it at that .

Looking for volunteers to write application comparison articles

There are a number of "what's the best?", "easiest to configure", and "lightest", questions that come up frequently in the forums: Image viewer, PDF/document viewer, tiling window manager, floating window manager, desktop environment, text editor, IDE, web browser, terminal emulator, ETC. And while there's very good documentation on some of the individual pieces in the wiki, there isn't as much on comparisons between them.
In order to help keep the forums from an endless cycle of repetition, we're looking for volunteers to add some application comparison articles to the wiki. The entries don't need to be comprehensive on individual programs, and there should be every attempt made to not unnecessarily duplicate what's already been written. Basic information on things like keyboard friendliness, lightness, text and/or graphic mode, and the like is encouraged though.
We'd like to use this page as the starting point:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Common_Apps
Don't use it for the comparisons themselves, but put a link to the articles under the correct category. The page is already good as it is, although it needs both more entries and to be linked to in the Archwiki Table of Contents for higher visibility (please).
Of course the articles are not for flame wars or opinions. It's a place where users can go to get a good general view of how apps stack up against each other.
Report back any progress made here.

skottish wrote:
There's going to some gray areas, but most it falls into categories. For instance, having separate pages for IDE and text editors is probably silly. Vim is both a text editor and an IDE depending on how it's set up. So is Geany, SciTE, Texmaker, Emacs, ETC. Putting them all together makes sense.
The two categories of window managers (tiling and floating), as well as DE deserve their own pages. What do you do with E17 then? It's as much a DE as it is a WM. If ended up in the floating WM page, as well as the DE page, that'd be fine. And no, it's tiling module doesn't make it a tiling WM.
PDF viewers and document viewers should probably be lumped together because almost all document viewers can view PDF files. Image viewers should get their own page. Same with terminal emulators.
Stuff like GIMP, Inkscape, and Blender probably don't need a comparison page. Even though other stuff can duplicate parts of their functionality, they're pretty much special programs in the Linux world.
Why three pages for WM/DEs ? Put them all in one page, but separate tables or whatever.

Looking for Windows Decorations for Netbook

I'm struggling to find any window decorations that will fit nicely on my netbook screen. I'm running Xfce on a 1024x600 screen.
http://i.imgur.com/6aXuggM.png
Here's a screenshot of my setup so far, as you can see the window decorations are quite large, I'm looking for a minimalist and small set of window decorations, I'm open to any colours at the moment.
Does anyone have any suggestions?
Moderator edit [ewaller] Changed links to over size image to a url.
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I guess you already checked http://xfce-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=420, there are few that are quite minimal. You could also try tweaking the xfwm themerc for any theme to make it more compact.
If you're feeling adventurous, you could switch to some tiling wm, and get rid of window decorations altogether. There are floating window managers with smaller decorations as well, for example openbox.
Also, most of GNOME applications are client side decorated and don't draw window borders at all, so switching to those could save you some screen estate too.
Sorry I didn't really answer your question, but I wanted to point out a few alternatives that may help your situation.
Btw, you shouldn't post full size images, but a thumbnail with link instead, or you'll make mods angry

Qt vs GTK for a tiling WM [SOLVED]

I know this has been discussed to death and flamed over many times, however I have a more particular case (my case), this being the reason why I moved to gnu/linux for the ability of choice and individuality.
Anyway before I get side tracked and all misty eyed over my linux story I would like to ask you fellow Arch'rs for your opinion.
I have been using wmii WM for 6 months and I love it, it's speed, it's simplicity. Up until recently I have been using GTK specific programs for their fabled speed and low resources. However I find applications like K3B and Vitual Box (both use QT) extremely powerful and useful. But sometimes deep down in my Obsessive-compulsive self I feel like these are outsiders, that they hinder my tidy lean my freedom fighting, copy left machine.
Am I right to think qt is slower, drags otherwise mostly un-needed dependencies, and takes up extra ram (I have 4 gigs tho), and look for other alternatives? Or should I just stop fussing over some minor graphical inconsistency and use the programs that are useful to me?
Thanks for the input!
Last edited by MattSmith (2009-10-10 02:31:51)

well there are some qt apps that are very utils (and very good programmed)
like "qtcreator" (a simple lightweight but very complete IDE for C/C++ and Makefile-based projects)
or "opera"
you don't need to have KDE packages at all and still need qt for some apps.
imo, KDE apps are not the favorite option when you talk about "tiling WM's" because its not that lightweight, so you won't run many things from it, but you can use some "tweaks/hacks" to get that apps look in your WM like in KDE (just actually run "kdeinit &")
KDE is pretty a great DE, but that means it's purpose is not to be really "small"
but anyway, GIMP is indeed a very good option if not the best for a digital "image manipulation program" (that's its name btw)
it requires gtk+, which is an acronym that means 'the gimp toolkit'
good luck though'

Movie rentals that I downloaded onto iMac with Lion to do not show up on ATV 2 in menu for computers. Purchased movies show up just fine. What to do or look for?

I have an imac that is running lion and an Apple TV generation 2. I have rented a movie from itunes and it shows up on my imac in Itunes under a rental icon, and will play fine on my computer. However, it does not show up as choice to play on my apple tv. I have homesharing enabled and everything else works fine including purchased movies that are on my imac, but no where does it show rental movies.
What do I look for? What do I do to play the rental movie on my apple tv 2?

Answer to my own question:
Wait until the downloaded rental has completed its download to the imac. This took a long time for me, since it was part of several things that I was downloading at the same time.
Finally, it showed up on my apple tv. Interestingly, I was able to watch much of the movie on my iMac before the movie finished its download and was available to the ATV 2.

Need help to open and look for file by name

Hi,
Im needing help to open a folder and look for a file (.txt) on this directory by his name ... The user ll type the partial name of file , and i need look for this file on the folder , and delete it ....
How can i look for the file by his name ?
Thx =)

Hi ,
Sry ,, let me explain again ... I ll set the name of the files in the follow order ... Name_Serial_date_chanel.sxc ..
The user ll type the serial that he wants delete ...
I already figured out what i need guys .. thx for the help ^^
I used List Directory on advanced IO , to list all .. the Name is the same for all ... then i used Name_ concateneted with Serial(typed)* .. this command serial* ll list all serials equal the typed , in my case , ll exist only one , cuz its a count this serial .Then i pass the path to the delete , and its done !
Thx ^^

Looking for a Darknet/Secure BBS app

I have been a fan of Haxial KDX for the longest time, but due to the bugs, etc., I would like to move on. I'm looking for a secure darknet/bbs styled program that supports chat, filesharing, and of basic user management (who can login, who can't, etc..). I have been asking this question all over the web, and haven't gotten (or found) a single response. Waste has never worked right for me, by the way. I would definitely prefer it to be open source, which is why I thought it best to post here. Please help out, or at least direct me somewhere where I should ask... Thanks.
As an aside, the guy who wrote KDX and Hotline (Adam?? Hinckley) claimed on the Haxial website that he is willing to sell the project. I wouldn't mine purchasing and restarting the KDX Project, but I've been unable to get in contact with him. So...if you are him, or know him, or own the rights to Haxial KDX and all related projects...$$$$$
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I've recently become a big fan of OneSwarm - http://oneswarm.cs.washington.edu - I like that it supports remote access.
But I'm definitely interested to see what this thread brings up!
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