Looking for DAQ Hardware

Hello,
I have been using LabView 5.0 for a few years to program, control
& retrieve information from the GPIB bus. I want to get into DAQ
programming. Where I work, we do not have much in the way of DAQ
hardware, so I am going to attempt to purchase what I need to play at
home in my spare time.
Looking for:
** DAQ card, preferably PCI for Windows 98: (PCI-MIO-16E-4 or 10)
** Signal conditioning hardware that will work with the PCI-MIO series
card I am looking for.
Please reply to: [email protected]

Chip,
If you are planning on using a breadboard for experimenting with you'e DAQ
board take a look at http://www.vicsys.com/pcbprods/bbdaqcvt.htm. It is an
inexpensive way to easily connect you're DAQ board to you're breadboard. I
also have some older used DAQ boards for sale at
http://www.vicsys.com/usedbrds/usedbrds.htm if you want to save a few bucks
on you're DAQ board.
Best Regards,
Neal Pederson, President, VI Control Systems
1923 Mendius Lane, Los Alamos, NM 87544
TEL: (505) 662-1461, FAX: (603) 388-4969
[email protected], www.vicsys.com
Chip Henkel wrote in message
news:[email protected]..
> Hello,
> I have been using LabView 5.0 for a few years to program, control
> & retrieve information from the GPIB bus. I want to get int
o DAQ
> programming. Where I work, we do not have much in the way of DAQ
> hardware, so I am going to attempt to purchase what I need to play at
> home in my spare time.
>
> Looking for:
> ** DAQ card, preferably PCI for Windows 98: (PCI-MIO-16E-4 or 10)
>
> ** Signal conditioning hardware that will work with the PCI-MIO series
>
> card I am looking for.
>
> Please reply to: [email protected]
>

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    * Supports tracks longer than 60 minutes / 1 hour
    Is there a modern media player that doesn't do this?
    * Has good file management / playlist support
    I never use mpd's playlist capabilities, but they do seem fairly extensive.
    * mpd - expects all your files to be in one folder; mine are everywhere, evn thrown across sshfs mounts to other systems.
    Apparently you have never heard of symbolic links. OH SNAP! Just create a single directory to collect all the links in. Also, mpd does not expect everything to be in one folder; it expects everything to be available from one parent folder, allowing you to organize beneath that parent.
    The problem you're having isn't that you're looking for a music player, you're looking for a wm/media player/file manager, and that just doesn't exist on Linux, largely because we are sane (for the sake of argument, ignore Songbird right now, I don't think any of us are crazy enough to use it anyways). Like looking for a zebroctonoceros, even though a zebra exists, an octopus exists, and a rhinoceros exists, they do not exist in the same creature. For interfacing with X (keybindings and the disappearing music player), you're better off going through a configurable wm like Openbox. For the actual music playing, well, I don't see any problems with mpd besides your music files being messy, and you can't expect music playing software to solve a personal organization problem. If your file system is messy, then use a file manager to fix it, not your mp3 player. I put a lot of effort into keeping my music files properly tagged and accessible from a single top level directory called music, which then splits off into mp3/ogg files, flac files, podcasts, etc, and that largely solves the problem of wondering where s--t is.
    Another idea for you, if you have multiple machines. Collect all your music onto a single machine, and then set up that system to serve exclusively as an mpd jukebox you can listen to from your other computers over the network. Give it a try.
    Last edited by coarseSand (2008-09-11 16:03:31)

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