Losing manual sort in Bridge collections

I installed the latest version of Bridge CC and created several collections. Each collection contains between 10 and 60 images which are all taken from the same Windows directory. The directory contains less than 300 image files. I did this in two sessions. In the first, I created 3 collections and in the second, I created 5 more. Each collection was manually sorted after all the images were added. No additional images were added after the manual sort.
After restarting Windows and opening Bridge CC again, some collections were still manually sorted and some were sorted by filename. All the collections are still showing as manual sort. Can't figure out why some are OK but others are in filename order even though it shows manual sort.
I'm running on Window 8 Pro and have InDesign installed as well. Bridge is not set to start at login.
Now, the only thing I can think of is that when I updated InDesign in Adobe CC this morning, that something may have affected Bridge. But then I would have expected all the collections to revert to filename order and not just some.
Is there a secret to keeping the manual sort in Bridge collections intact? It's not much use to me if it won't. I sort images in the order I want to insert them in book pages.
I checked other threads on this subject but it doesn't look like anything was resolved.
Thanks

DUUUUUUUDE! IT'S WORKING NOW!!!!
When you originally asked, "What happens if you click on an image and move it to another folder?", I didn't really understand what you were talking about because I almost never have my workspace set up in a way that the folders are showing. I always hide them. So I didn't really understand what you were saying. Just a few minutes ago, I realized that that is what you were asking so I opened up the folder area and tried dragging thumbs into different folders and saw that it does work.
So then, because of you mentioning that blue line and me know that I did see the blue line on occasion. I went back over into the thumbnails to find out if I always got the blue line or if it was a hit or miss thing. I couldn't believe my eyes when all of the sudden I saw that I no longer was getting that circle with the line through it, and low and behold, the thumbnail dropped right into position like it is supposed to!!!!
The thing is, I don't know what I've learned from this. I thought, "well, what is different?" The only thing that I can think of is that I now have the folders showing in my workspace so I wondered if that was the secret but I just now hid the folders again like I usually do and the drag and drop into position is STILL WORKING!!!
All I can figure is that somehow, dragging and dropping a thumbnail into a folder like that for the first time, triggered something so that I can now drag and drop among the thumbnail positions? Not sure. All I know is that for some reason, IT'S WORKING NOW!
Now, for the second important part, I wonder if I drag and drop everything into the order that I want and then select all of the files and drag them into a new folder, will they stay in that order? I need to go experiment with that.
If you hadn't kept at it and in turn had me keep trying stuff, it would have never happened because I had pretty much given up.
Thanks Curt!
You da man!!!

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Batch of files manually sorted in Bridge - Can I run a PS Action in that manual order?

For some jobs my workflow ideally involves manually sorting the order of a batch of RAW files in Bridge (the RAW file names are as assigned by the camera) and then using a PS Action from Bridge to convert, save, and rename the batch of files. I want to end up with my image files sequentially numbered in the manually sorted order.
However, my PS Action automatically processes the files in ascending order of their RAW file names and therefore my manually assigned file order in Bridge is lost.
Is there a script (or other method) which will allow me to run a PS action from Bridge on a batch of files while keeping the manually sorted order for the purposes of the numbering sequence of the renamed output files?
My current workaround is to Batch Rename in Bridge a copied set of RAW files as an intermediate step to running my PS Action on the renamed RAW file copies. It's not a bad workaround but if there is an easier way, I would much appreciate knowing about it!
Geoff

Geoff, here is an example that works for me. When I test ran the sample script based on some stuff that I do the files are process in the order of the manual sort and only the files in my selection are processed folders etc are ignored… I have NO idea how much people charge for this sort of thing I only do it for the learning process. If you can let me know what the Photoshop process is and your OS I 'may' be able to help but I make NO promises as Im still very much the learner with this stuff…
You can give this a test if you like…
#target bridge
with (app.document) {
     if (sorts[0].type == 'user') {
          if (selections.length == 0) {
               selectAll();
               var userSel = selections;
               deselectAll();
          } else {
               var userSel = selections;
          for (var i = 0; i < userSel.length; i++) {
               if (userSel[i].type == 'file') psProcess(userSel[i].spec);
     } else {
           alert('This window is NOT a manual sort?')
function psProcess(filePath) {
     var psScript = 'while (app.documents.length) app.activeDocument.close(SaveOptions.PROMPTTOSAVECHANGES);' + '\n';
     psScript += 'var userDialogs = app.displayDialogs; \n';
     psScript += 'var userRulerUnits = app.preferences.rulerUnits; \n';
     psScript += 'app.diaplayDialogs = DialogModes.NO; \n';
     psScript += 'app.preferences.rulerUnits = Units.PIXELS; \n';
     psScript += 'app.bringToFront(); \n';
     // Pass File Object as toSource
     psScript += 'var thisFile = ' + filePath.toSource() + '; \n';
     psScript += 'var docRef = app.open(thisFile); \n';
     psScript += 'var baseName = docRef.name.slice(0, -4); \n';
     // Edit the document
     psScript += 'if (docRef.bitsPerChannel == BitsPerChannelType.SIXTEEN) docRef.bitsPerChannel = BitsPerChannelType.EIGHT; \n';
     psScript += 'if (docRef.mode != DocumentMode.RGB) docRef.changeMode(ChangeMode.RGB); \n';
     psScript += 'if (docRef.colorProfileName != "sRGB IEC61966-2.1") docRef.convertProfile("sRGB IEC61966-2.1", Intent.RELATIVECOLORIMETRIC); \n';
     psScript += 'docRef.flatten(); \n';
     // Call some functions
     psScript += 'processChannels(docRef); \n';
     psScript += 'processPaths(docRef); \n';
     psScript += 'if (docRef.pathItems.length >= 1) processSelection(docRef, 0); \n';
     psScript += 'fitImage(docRef, 880, 72); \n';
     psScript += 'docRef.resizeCanvas(900, 900, AnchorPosition.MIDDLECENTER); \n';
     // set up new file path to save document
     psScript += 'var newFilePath = new File("~/Desktop/" + baseName + ".jpg"); \n';
     psScript += 'saveFileasJPEG(newFilePath, 9); \n';
     //      Close doc & put back prefs
     psScript += 'app.activeDocument.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES); \n';
     psScript += 'app.diaplayDialogs = userDialogs; \n';
     psScript += 'app.preferences.rulerUnits = userRulerUnits; \n';
     // Use eval & toSource for Photoshop functions
     psScript += 'eval' + processChannels.toSource(); + '; \n';
     psScript += 'eval' + processPaths.toSource(); + '; \n';
     psScript += 'eval' + processSelection.toSource(); + '; \n';
     psScript += 'eval' + fitImage.toSource(); + '; \n';
     //psScript += 'eval' + imageArea.toSource(); + '; \n';
     //psScript += 'eval' + saveFileasTIFF.toSource(); + '; \n';
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     btMessaging('photoshop', psScript);
General Functions
function btMessaging(targetApp, script) {
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     bt.target = targetApp;
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     bt.send();
function createFolder(folderPath) {
     var thisFolder = new Folder(folderPath);
     if (!thisFolder.exists) thisFolder.create();
Photoshop Functions
function processChannels(docRef) {
     for (var i = docRef.channels.length-1; i >= 0; i--) {
          if (docRef.channels[i].kind == ChannelType.MASKEDAREA) {
               docRef.channels[i].remove();
               continue;
          if (docRef.channels[i].kind == ChannelType.SELECTEDAREA) {
               docRef.channels[i].remove();
               continue;
          if (docRef.channels[i].kind == ChannelType.SPOTCOLOR) {
               docRef.channels[i].merge();
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          for (var i = 0; i < docRef.pathItems.length; i++) {
               if (docRef.pathItems[i].kind == PathKind.CLIPPINGPATH) {
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How do I export my "manual sorting" of files to my new Adobe Bridge CC installation?

Hi all,
I'll try to explain my situation:
I have Adobe Bridge CC installed on my computer. I use the "manual sorting" to view and manage my files (mostly .eps/.psd).
I'm moving to Win8.1 and I don't want to loose my manual sorting. How do I save/export my manual sorting in order to import it on a new Bridge installation?
Thank you all in advance,
Francesco

I'm moving to Win8.1 and I don't want to loose my manual sorting.
Manual sorting is not meant for a permanent sort order nor is it designed to do so, when switching to a new window or other sort order you will loose the previous sort order. However there is a way to retrieve the last sort order used with a script Paul Riggott once wrote. But I'm not sure you can transport this sorting to a new system version because when you install a system from scratch you also need to recache the files for the Bridge Cache library. It might be possible to also copy the hidden file with the last sort order but that would mean a trial and error procedure.
Check this post, at the bottom is also a link for the site where you can get the script and how to install and use it:
http://forums.adobe.com/message/4748987#4748987
Personal I would use batch rename to keep the sort order safe. You can select all files in the content window and add a sequence number in front (with enough digits to match your number of files) of your existing filename. In this way you can easily resort your collection when your manual sorting is lost for whatever reason and also the files will have the correct sort order on your system folder also.

Retain A Collection's Manual Sort Order ?

Why is this forum so difficult to use ?
I have a question that I cannot search for, and which deletes my search text when it heads into this posting. This makes no sense to me, since I'm sure the problem I have was covered ages ago.
The simple 21 image CS5 Bridge collection I created does not sort manually in the order that the images were added to the collection.
Neither does the Output panel retain my individually selected order.
Is there some secret to retaining either a collection's orginal creation order, or a selection's order so I can use this to output to a PDF in the order as I intended ?

Hi there,
I tired to reply on forums.adobe.com/message/4225665, but it was "readonly". Same issue here...
it's Tobi from Germany, using Bridge CS4. I had the same problem, Bridge not saving the order of images. I got it solved by detecting that the problem always occured when i used Germanic umlaut for the collections title names. maybe you should check your spelling too and only use "english" characters.
in
C:Documents and Settings\user\Application Data\Adobe\Bridge CS4
you have two important folders:
/Collections
/UserSort
and in /UserSort you only should have exactly one more file than in /Collections. In my case by using Germanic umlaut i had like some hundred more. Then you should check UserSort/index.xml. Open it using your prefered editor (like Notepad++) and check the spelling of your collections paths.
In order to exchange your collections with other users or devices you should always copy both folder, "Collections" and "UserSort" and in UserSort/index.html you should adjust the paths, changing the user directory.
Or, Adobe wakes up and adds an export/import-feature to Bridge and solves the character-issue!

Manually Sort a Collection

I would like to manually sort a Collection, and then save that sort when I save the Collection.
In Bridge 1.0.4 (CS2), WinXP, manual sort seems to work only for a real folder.
When I try to move a thumbnail in a Collection (result of a find operation), I get the international "NO" symbol (circle with a diagonal line). No manual sort seems to be allowed in Bridge CS2!
Is it allowed in CS3?

ejp is right.
If you are talking about several unrelated sorts, you
need a comparator per sort order.Just to get the full story: You could build a generic comparator and configure it according to the next sorting you want to do:
Collection.sort(list, new GenericEmployeeCompare(SortOrders.SortByName));I very much doubt you'll want to, though. It will get overly complicated, and I don't see what you gain.
If all sorting (all calls to Collections.sort()) happen from within one class, you can make your Comparator classes local to that class, so as to keep things together still.

How do you sort mini bridge manually?

Is there a way to sort mini bridge manually? I have manually sorted images for an album design in Bridge but when I open Mini Bridge in Indesign they are sorted by filename. I do not see a sort option to sort manually. Wondering if anybody has a solution other than to rename files from Bridge.
I am using InDesign and Bridge CS6 on a Windows 7 computer via the Adobe cloud.

Yes, when I do that it sorts the albums in the folder by name.
I may have misused terminology, I meant Smart Albums not smart folders, if this makes a difference.
Thanks for your help!

Unable to drag and drop images with manual sort in CS2 bridge

I've had CS2 for several years now but for some reason, just never really needed to do a manual sort. Now that I DO need to, it doesn't seem to be working. I have the view set for manual and no matter what kind of working space I use, the program does not allow me to drag and drop the thumbnails into different positions. All I get is that circle with a diagonal line through it, showing me that what I'm trying isn't going to work.
Any ideas?
Windows XP
2G of ram
Bridge version 1.0.4.6 (104504)
CS2

DUUUUUUUDE! IT'S WORKING NOW!!!!
When you originally asked, "What happens if you click on an image and move it to another folder?", I didn't really understand what you were talking about because I almost never have my workspace set up in a way that the folders are showing. I always hide them. So I didn't really understand what you were saying. Just a few minutes ago, I realized that that is what you were asking so I opened up the folder area and tried dragging thumbs into different folders and saw that it does work.
So then, because of you mentioning that blue line and me know that I did see the blue line on occasion. I went back over into the thumbnails to find out if I always got the blue line or if it was a hit or miss thing. I couldn't believe my eyes when all of the sudden I saw that I no longer was getting that circle with the line through it, and low and behold, the thumbnail dropped right into position like it is supposed to!!!!
The thing is, I don't know what I've learned from this. I thought, "well, what is different?" The only thing that I can think of is that I now have the folders showing in my workspace so I wondered if that was the secret but I just now hid the folders again like I usually do and the drag and drop into position is STILL WORKING!!!
All I can figure is that somehow, dragging and dropping a thumbnail into a folder like that for the first time, triggered something so that I can now drag and drop among the thumbnail positions? Not sure. All I know is that for some reason, IT'S WORKING NOW!
Now, for the second important part, I wonder if I drag and drop everything into the order that I want and then select all of the files and drag them into a new folder, will they stay in that order? I need to go experiment with that.
If you hadn't kept at it and in turn had me keep trying stuff, it would have never happened because I had pretty much given up.
Thanks Curt!
You da man!!!

Bridge does not keep the manual sort order

I've tried everything I know but I cannot get Bridge to keep the manual sort order (iMac, 10.6, CS4). What is the file responsible for keeping the sort order? Perhaps removing it would help. This is really frustrating. It would be so important to keep related pictures together for estimating all the aspects.

This is action script 3.0 Flash CS3
Below is what I receive back after I test it but it is not in
order. I guess I assumed that if the tab order is correct and the
are layout in that order and the code in the form is in order it
would come back the same way. Mostly I am trying to narrow down the
problem and my guess is the cgi script or am I wrong? I have
attached the code for the form.
Thank You for you time
Form email submission results:
Below is what you submitted on Tuesday, February 19, 2008 at
10:35:08
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phone:
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comments:
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Saving a Custom (Manual) Sort

I searched and searched through Bridge and found NO way to save a custom sort (manual) with a name (or a collection if you prefer). I created a manual custom sort in a folder and ran a PS action to reduce the size of each photo and put them into a new folder. When I opened the new folder the sort was alpha, not like the old folder. I now have to manually sort over 300 photos in new folder.
Is there a way to do this and if not, can a script be written for it. I create slide shows and no of hundreds of examples of how I would use this. It is really labor intensive to put the photos in a special order and then have no way to save it for future use.
Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. If I have to pay someone to do this, I will. thanks.

I am using Bridge (Version 1.0.4) and CS2 on WinXP, SP2. I am extremely disappointment in a limitation in Bridge that seems to be related to JamesAGrover's challenge to save a manual sort that he has created in a collection.
A review of topics related to manual sorting in these Adobe forums indicate that there is a general limitation to sorting a collection. This limitation seems to exist in any of the Adobe products for Mac or PC that offer the ability to view "collections" of images, for example, Lightroom and Bridge.
A "collection" seems to be a set of file names that are handled independently of the real files themselves. The magic resides in the user's experience of handling the "collection" of filenames as if they were the actual files themselves.
Of course, there is no "magic"; the collection is working with some kind of pointer to the actual files, where ever they may truly reside.
There are many powerful reasons for offering functionality of this kind. The one that primarily interests me is that by working with pointers to the same file from different collections, I can create different subsets of images and unique sort orders without copying the original files. I avoid filling my harddrive with copies, but I can burn thousands of CDs and DVDs each with different selections and sorts.
But unfortunately, inside a "collection", I am unable to execute a manual sort at all. The problem exists if my collection includes files from a single directory or from several different directories (folders). Since this seems to contradict the basic promise of a "collection" of filenames, I keep thinking that I misunderstand the user's interface.
I have set the "View - Sort" menu with every permutation of checks and unchecks for "Ascending Order" and "Manually" with no luck.
I have discovered a workaround to my problem: I have been able to manually sort, and save, a direct view of a real file system directory from the Bridge interface. But that has forced me to create copies of my images in one unique new directory for every selection and sort that I need.
To tie this back to the first post in this topic, I must observe that for me, after creating and manually sorting a collection, I will want to save the collection with its unique and idiosyncratic, manual sort. I don't want to copy the original files umpteen times! It seems that I will encounter the problem described by JamesAGrover.
I wonder if any forum member, or any one at Adobe, has a comment. Specifically I wonder about two things:
1) Am I misunderstanding the user's interface? Is there a setting that I have not discovered?
2) Is there a basic limitation with "collections" that has been removed in CS3?

Any way to Restore Last Manual Sort Order or Prevent from being Overwritten accidentally?

     Help!
     I'm constantly accidentally overwriting painstakingly created manual sort ordering (sometimes hours but more often months of accumulated work) in folders with files numbering up to 1,000, when i, however breifly, switch to another sort ordering (size, date modified etc) to check something, immediately forget that i'm in another sort order, and, unthinkingly (actually i guess i'm thinking of a lot of other things) drag a file to another position, this immediately destroys any past manual sorting i've established, overwriting it with this new inadvertent manual ordering.
     I've tried CommandZ (edit undo) but that only undoes my last rating or labeling, i've rushed to force quit Bridge through the activity montior hoping i will catch it before its overwritten, but obviously i am not as fast as a computer, and i don't think this has ever worked.
Is there any way or any script someone has written to formally save a manual sort order? Is there anything i've missed to attempt restoring it? Has anyone, repeatedly foiled by this, written something that would give a warning and require confirmation say for instance, if i tried to drag or move a file while in another sort ordering (this seems like something that should have existed the minute the opportunity was given to create manual organization). Would anyone be willing to?
     Seriously, me forgetting almost every time isn't going to change and, more vexingly, it's even happened when i didn't mean to move anything but fumbled momentarily while in another sort order. I think most people might forget because (in the context of computing) we are conditioned to expect a warning if something we have just created is about to be written over or discarded, and since there is no option to formally save a manual ordering we have just created.
     Also, if this was in the real world, moving a single file would not reshuffle everything on your desk. If i had the option to formally save a manual organization i would NOT forget to do this and would use it, as i've wished for one every time spent a while rearranging files. Knowing how easily all the hours (much less months and years of cumulative work) of organizational work can be accidentally lost makes working within Bridge unpleasantly anxious.
      I'm literally willing to do anything including installing some sketchy 3rd-part scripts (though honestly i have no idea what that means or how to do it). I extentively use and rely heavily upon this function so this is a fairly serious Achille's heel. It's like watching your incredibly important meticulously constructed house of cards collapse with a careless but innocent sigh, or like having the equivelent of a not even charming cat dance across your keyboard during a live concert, etc etc....
     Also it is not usually appropriate, given the context, to batch rename everything to preserve a manual ordering w sequence numbers, etc. Often the filenames are considerably (but necessarily, to connote important differences) long already, and when i have to rearrange things in the future would have to do that each time, etc, etc, making for even more unwieldly filenames that didn't have any substantive information at the beginning. I'm looking for a way to make this function (manual sort ordering), well, more functional, secure and stable, the workarounds i've considered cause too many additonal problems.
     Thank you in advance for any help you may be able to offer, and as this is my first attempt to use the forums as i live on a boat with no regular net access, would appreciate any forum etiquette corrections, and advance apologies for any misspellings, dyslexic and spellcheck does not seem to work in this interface. next time will edit in external wordprocessing program beforehand,
          li'l mc szpf
     PS i'm on a 27" mac w CS4 Design Premium, w up to the minute OS (10.6.8) and Adobe software updates installed recently (i do not often move the monster but this week was housesitting w net access, so she has had all recommended shots and vaccinations....)
     PPS I know most of y'all might be running the newest and the latest of everything, but, i'm fairly certain this is still a problem in recent versions as this has happened to me at school where all the macs are running cs5. Though if it's been addressed somehow in cs6 would update entire suite just to fix this one problem in Bridge. I've tried many searches and found nothing relevant or wouldn't bother the considerable expertise and resources of an official forum, was extremely hesitant to ask (feared getting snapped at for unwittingly broaching forum etiquette) but it is truly the bane of my considerable Bridge existence, so was willing to risk the imaginary censure and opprobrium....
Message was edited by: PECourtejoie

That is a good question, to do this requires two functions and a restart of Bridge all done automagically
Copy and paste the script into ExtendScript Toolkit
This gets installed with Photoshop and can be found:-
PC: C:\Program Files\Adobe\Adobe Utilities
MAC: <hard drive>/Applications/Utilities/Adobe Utilities
Start Bridge
PC: Edit - Preferences - Startup Scripts
Mac: Adobe Bridge menu - Preferences - Startup Scripts
At the bottom click the "Reveal Button" this will open the folder where the script should be saved.
Close and restart Bridge.
Accept the new script.
To use:
Tools - Backup Manual Sort
This will backup the hidden manual sort file .BridgeSort to .BridgeSortSave
Tools - Restore Manual Sort
This will copy the .BridgeSortSave back to .BridgeSort and will close and restart Bridge so that the manual sort is restored.
if( BridgeTalk.appName == "bridge" ) {
var backUpManSort = new MenuElement( "command","Backup Manual Sort", "at the end of Tools" , "backupms" );
var RestoreManSort = new MenuElement( "command","Restore Manual Sort", "at the end of Tools" , "restorems" );
backUpManSort.onSelect = function () {
var fileSort = new File(app.document.presentationPath +"/.BridgeSort");
var fileSave = new File(app.document.presentationPath +"/.BridgeSortSave");
if(fileSave.exists) fileSave.remove();
fileSort.copy(fileSave);
fileSave.hidden=true;
RestoreManSort.onSelect = function () {
var fileSort = new File(app.document.presentationPath +"/.BridgeSort");
var fileSave = new File(app.document.presentationPath +"/.BridgeSortSave");
if(!fileSave.exists){
alert("No backup file exists");
return;
app.document.sorts = [{ type:"string",name:"document-kind", reverse:false }];
if(fileSort.exists) fileSort.remove();
fileSave.copy(fileSort);
fileSort.hidden=true;
app.document.chooseMenuItem("mondo/command/new");
app.documents[0].close();
app.document.sorts = [{ name:"user",type:"date", reverse:false }];
Hope this works for you.

Manual sort of images

How do I manually sort images in the grid mode?

You grab the image part of the thumbnail, not the grey surround, then drag to new position. Also, note that you can only manually sort from within the folder containing the images or Collection.

Sorting within iPhoto albums: eliminate carryover from prior manual sorts?

I am working with a large series of photos from a recent vacation, arranging the images for captioning and sharing as slideshows. I've pulled the images over to new albums, one per day, and would ideally sort them once by date, then change to manual sort and adjust a few images' position in the queue. But when I switch from date sort to manual sort, the images immediately revert to a relatively random-looking order that I think must be the order in which they were edited and then pulled into the finishing album. Since some of these albums include several hundred photos, the idea of starting over with completely manual sort of all of the images is VERY painful. Sorting them by date and then copying and dragging the sorted images to a new album, and then resetting to manual sort, reverts them to the same order they had in the previous album.
Any suggestions for how to fix the date sort some way, then do a fresh manual sort that leaves the date sort as my starting point?
(and is the question clear?)

Another thank you.
I could not figure out how to manually movie my photos & videos. "Manually" & "Reset manual" were greyed out in Smart Albums. So I deleted Smart Albums and just made an "Album." "Manually & "Reset manual" magically appeared un-greyed.
Took me awhile to figure out that you can only manually move the last picture or video.

IPhoto album slideshow will not play in the manually sorted order.

iPhoto Album slideshow will not play in the manually sorted order.

Use a regular slideshow created by "File > New Slideshow". These will play manually sorted. The instant slideshows cannot be played in a manual sort order.

Why is manual sort order disabled in album view

I created an album and added pictures. By default, the photos are displayed in sort order by date. I'd like to manually order them. However, when I select the sort order drop down box, the option to manually order the photos is disabled. How can I enable it or why is it disabled.

It is not available because you have yet to create a manual sort for that Album, and so there is no "Manual Sort" available. Create a manual sort manually (re-arrange the photos). Then the "Manual Sort" menu choice should become available.
The menu switches between the existing sorts.
I didn't design it. This makes sense to engineers, but not so much to users. Any time you manually re-arrange your images, the sort is automatically changed to "Manual". Aperture remembers the last manual sort; it is always available via the sort selector.

Trying to make a book - iPhoto changing the order of my manually sorted album. Help?

I'm trying to make a book from an album.
I have manually sorted the photos in the album and wanted autoflow to fill the book in.
However, when I create a new book from the album, iPhoto seems to re-order the photos by one of the other options (eg: by date.) If I change that sort option under view - sort, and switch it to manual, it wants me to manually re-sort based on the previous setting. I have already done my sorting in the album. Is there a configuration I can do that will get iPhoto to recognise that manual album order?
(iphoto 11 v9.2.1)

The only solution I've seen reported is to change the dates of the photos using the batch change command with a increment so the date sort will be the same as your manual sort - you can search the forum for one of these posts - and I do not remember how they proposed to undo the date change
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