Manual sort of images

How do I manually sort images in the grid mode?

You grab the image part of the thumbnail, not the grey surround, then drag to new position. Also, note that you can only manually sort from within the folder containing the images or Collection.

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Manual Sort of Images in smart album after importing images

After sorting by date in a smart album, how do I move images around manually? I appreciate your help!

Sure. Select all the images in the Smart Album then File -> New Album
Regards
TD

Sorting within iPhoto albums: eliminate carryover from prior manual sorts?

I am working with a large series of photos from a recent vacation, arranging the images for captioning and sharing as slideshows. I've pulled the images over to new albums, one per day, and would ideally sort them once by date, then change to manual sort and adjust a few images' position in the queue. But when I switch from date sort to manual sort, the images immediately revert to a relatively random-looking order that I think must be the order in which they were edited and then pulled into the finishing album. Since some of these albums include several hundred photos, the idea of starting over with completely manual sort of all of the images is VERY painful. Sorting them by date and then copying and dragging the sorted images to a new album, and then resetting to manual sort, reverts them to the same order they had in the previous album.
Any suggestions for how to fix the date sort some way, then do a fresh manual sort that leaves the date sort as my starting point?
(and is the question clear?)

Another thank you.
I could not figure out how to manually movie my photos & videos. "Manually" & "Reset manual" were greyed out in Smart Albums. So I deleted Smart Albums and just made an "Album." "Manually & "Reset manual" magically appeared un-greyed.
Took me awhile to figure out that you can only manually move the last picture or video.

How to Manually Sort Images in Library View

In lightroom 1 I was able... under some circumstances... to be able to pick and drag images to a new location in the library grid mode.
What do I have to do to sort my images by the time they were taken first...then...be able to manually drag some images into a new location in the grid?
When I rename the images later...it would be great if the sequence number would be the same order as the grid view sequence.
Thanks
Suizzie

Perfect...I put the 700 images into a collection of their own called first pass...and now I can manually pick up and move images around and drop them in new locations in the grid...Thanks!!

Creating a manual sort order for images in LR?

So I have been using LR for a few weeks now, and generally once I am done editing and processing, I amend the order of the images by manually dragging the images about in either library or develop mode. I find sorting them into like groups makes it easier for others to look through them. Now, suddunly, LR is letting me 'drag' amd image, but it wont 'drop' it in the desired spot.
I feel like I must have accidently pushed some strange button...but I can't figure out where?

Hey! I solved my own question! In case anyone else is stumped, here is the answer:
There seem to be two issued LR is picky about:
1. You need to select the image, not the surrounding grey 'slide mount' area.
2. Near as I can figure, it wasnt letting me sort because I was in 'previous import', under catalogue. When I selected the 'date' of the image under 'folder' it worked!

Unable to drag and drop images with manual sort in CS2 bridge

I've had CS2 for several years now but for some reason, just never really needed to do a manual sort. Now that I DO need to, it doesn't seem to be working. I have the view set for manual and no matter what kind of working space I use, the program does not allow me to drag and drop the thumbnails into different positions. All I get is that circle with a diagonal line through it, showing me that what I'm trying isn't going to work.
Any ideas?
Windows XP
2G of ram
Bridge version 1.0.4.6 (104504)
CS2

DUUUUUUUDE! IT'S WORKING NOW!!!!
When you originally asked, "What happens if you click on an image and move it to another folder?", I didn't really understand what you were talking about because I almost never have my workspace set up in a way that the folders are showing. I always hide them. So I didn't really understand what you were saying. Just a few minutes ago, I realized that that is what you were asking so I opened up the folder area and tried dragging thumbs into different folders and saw that it does work.
So then, because of you mentioning that blue line and me know that I did see the blue line on occasion. I went back over into the thumbnails to find out if I always got the blue line or if it was a hit or miss thing. I couldn't believe my eyes when all of the sudden I saw that I no longer was getting that circle with the line through it, and low and behold, the thumbnail dropped right into position like it is supposed to!!!!
The thing is, I don't know what I've learned from this. I thought, "well, what is different?" The only thing that I can think of is that I now have the folders showing in my workspace so I wondered if that was the secret but I just now hid the folders again like I usually do and the drag and drop into position is STILL WORKING!!!
All I can figure is that somehow, dragging and dropping a thumbnail into a folder like that for the first time, triggered something so that I can now drag and drop among the thumbnail positions? Not sure. All I know is that for some reason, IT'S WORKING NOW!
Now, for the second important part, I wonder if I drag and drop everything into the order that I want and then select all of the files and drag them into a new folder, will they stay in that order? I need to go experiment with that.
If you hadn't kept at it and in turn had me keep trying stuff, it would have never happened because I had pretty much given up.
Thanks Curt!
You da man!!!

Batch of files manually sorted in Bridge - Can I run a PS Action in that manual order?

For some jobs my workflow ideally involves manually sorting the order of a batch of RAW files in Bridge (the RAW file names are as assigned by the camera) and then using a PS Action from Bridge to convert, save, and rename the batch of files. I want to end up with my image files sequentially numbered in the manually sorted order.
However, my PS Action automatically processes the files in ascending order of their RAW file names and therefore my manually assigned file order in Bridge is lost.
Is there a script (or other method) which will allow me to run a PS action from Bridge on a batch of files while keeping the manually sorted order for the purposes of the numbering sequence of the renamed output files?
My current workaround is to Batch Rename in Bridge a copied set of RAW files as an intermediate step to running my PS Action on the renamed RAW file copies. It's not a bad workaround but if there is an easier way, I would much appreciate knowing about it!
Geoff

Geoff, here is an example that works for me. When I test ran the sample script based on some stuff that I do the files are process in the order of the manual sort and only the files in my selection are processed folders etc are ignored… I have NO idea how much people charge for this sort of thing I only do it for the learning process. If you can let me know what the Photoshop process is and your OS I 'may' be able to help but I make NO promises as Im still very much the learner with this stuff…
You can give this a test if you like…
#target bridge
with (app.document) {
     if (sorts[0].type == 'user') {
          if (selections.length == 0) {
               selectAll();
               var userSel = selections;
               deselectAll();
          } else {
               var userSel = selections;
          for (var i = 0; i < userSel.length; i++) {
               if (userSel[i].type == 'file') psProcess(userSel[i].spec);
     } else {
           alert('This window is NOT a manual sort?')
function psProcess(filePath) {
     var psScript = 'while (app.documents.length) app.activeDocument.close(SaveOptions.PROMPTTOSAVECHANGES);' + '\n';
     psScript += 'var userDialogs = app.displayDialogs; \n';
     psScript += 'var userRulerUnits = app.preferences.rulerUnits; \n';
     psScript += 'app.diaplayDialogs = DialogModes.NO; \n';
     psScript += 'app.preferences.rulerUnits = Units.PIXELS; \n';
     psScript += 'app.bringToFront(); \n';
     // Pass File Object as toSource
     psScript += 'var thisFile = ' + filePath.toSource() + '; \n';
     psScript += 'var docRef = app.open(thisFile); \n';
     psScript += 'var baseName = docRef.name.slice(0, -4); \n';
     // Edit the document
     psScript += 'if (docRef.bitsPerChannel == BitsPerChannelType.SIXTEEN) docRef.bitsPerChannel = BitsPerChannelType.EIGHT; \n';
     psScript += 'if (docRef.mode != DocumentMode.RGB) docRef.changeMode(ChangeMode.RGB); \n';
     psScript += 'if (docRef.colorProfileName != "sRGB IEC61966-2.1") docRef.convertProfile("sRGB IEC61966-2.1", Intent.RELATIVECOLORIMETRIC); \n';
     psScript += 'docRef.flatten(); \n';
     // Call some functions
     psScript += 'processChannels(docRef); \n';
     psScript += 'processPaths(docRef); \n';
     psScript += 'if (docRef.pathItems.length >= 1) processSelection(docRef, 0); \n';
     psScript += 'fitImage(docRef, 880, 72); \n';
     psScript += 'docRef.resizeCanvas(900, 900, AnchorPosition.MIDDLECENTER); \n';
     // set up new file path to save document
     psScript += 'var newFilePath = new File("~/Desktop/" + baseName + ".jpg"); \n';
     psScript += 'saveFileasJPEG(newFilePath, 9); \n';
     //      Close doc & put back prefs
     psScript += 'app.activeDocument.close(SaveOptions.DONOTSAVECHANGES); \n';
     psScript += 'app.diaplayDialogs = userDialogs; \n';
     psScript += 'app.preferences.rulerUnits = userRulerUnits; \n';
     // Use eval & toSource for Photoshop functions
     psScript += 'eval' + processChannels.toSource(); + '; \n';
     psScript += 'eval' + processPaths.toSource(); + '; \n';
     psScript += 'eval' + processSelection.toSource(); + '; \n';
     psScript += 'eval' + fitImage.toSource(); + '; \n';
     //psScript += 'eval' + imageArea.toSource(); + '; \n';
     //psScript += 'eval' + saveFileasTIFF.toSource(); + '; \n';
     psScript += 'eval' + saveFileasJPEG.toSource(); + '; \n';
     // Send script to Photoshop
     btMessaging('photoshop', psScript);
General Functions
function btMessaging(targetApp, script) {
     var bt = new BridgeTalk();
     bt.target = targetApp;
     bt.body = script;
     bt.send();
function createFolder(folderPath) {
     var thisFolder = new Folder(folderPath);
     if (!thisFolder.exists) thisFolder.create();
Photoshop Functions
function processChannels(docRef) {
     for (var i = docRef.channels.length-1; i >= 0; i--) {
          if (docRef.channels[i].kind == ChannelType.MASKEDAREA) {
               docRef.channels[i].remove();
               continue;
          if (docRef.channels[i].kind == ChannelType.SELECTEDAREA) {
               docRef.channels[i].remove();
               continue;
          if (docRef.channels[i].kind == ChannelType.SPOTCOLOR) {
               docRef.channels[i].merge();
function processPaths(docRef) {
     if (docRef.pathItems.length >= 2) {
          for (var i = 0; i < docRef.pathItems.length; i++) {
               if (docRef.pathItems[i].kind == PathKind.CLIPPINGPATH) {
                    docRef.pathItems[i].makeClippingPath(0.5);
                    docRef.pathItems[i].makeSelection(0, true, SelectionType.REPLACE);
                    docRef.pathItems[i].deselect();
if (docRef.pathItems.length == 1) {
          if      (docRef.pathItems[0].kind == PathKind.WORKPATH) docRef.pathItems[0].name = 'Clipping Path'
          docRef.pathItems[0].makeClippingPath(0.5);
          docRef.pathItems[0].makeSelection(0, true, SelectionType.REPLACE);
          docRef.pathItems[0].deselect();
function processSelection(docRef, offSet) {
     if (docRef.layers[0].isBackgroundLayer) docRef.layers[0].isBackgroundLayer = false;
     docRef.selection.expand(offSet);
     docRef.selection.invert();
     docRef.activeLayer = docRef.layers[0];
     docRef.selection.clear();
     docRef.selection.deselect();
     docRef.trim(TrimType.TRANSPARENT, true, true, true, true);
     docRef.flatten();
function fitImage(docRef, newSize, newRes) {
if (docRef.width >= docRef.height) {
     docRef.resizeImage(newSize, undefined, newRes, ResampleMethod.BICUBICSMOOTHER);
else {
     docRef.resizeImage(undefined, newSize, newRes, ResampleMethod.BICUBICSMOOTHER);
function imageArea(docRef, newArea, newRes) {
var originalArea = docRef.width * docRef.height;
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     var newWidth = Math.sqrt(docRef.width * newArea / docRef.height);
     var newHeight = (docRef.height * newWidth / docRef.width);
     docRef.resizeImage(newWidth, newHeight, newRes, ResampleMethod.BICUBICSMOOTHER);
else {
     docRef.resizeImage(undefined, undefined, newRes, ResampleMethod.NONE);
function bitmapOptions(res) {
bitOptions = new BitmapConversionOptions();
     bitOptions.method = BitmapConversionType.HALFTHRESHOLD;
     bitOptions.resolution = res;
     bitOptions.shape = BitmapHalfToneType.SQUARE;
     return bitOptions;
Photoshop Save As Functions
function saveFileasTIFF(saveFile, aC, iC, la, sC, tr) {
     tiffSaveOptions = new TiffSaveOptions();
     tiffSaveOptions.alphaChannels = aC;
     tiffSaveOptions.byteOrder = ByteOrder.MACOS;
     tiffSaveOptions.embedColorProfile = true;
     tiffSaveOptions.imageCompression = iC;
     tiffSaveOptions.layers = la;
     tiffSaveOptions.spotColors = sC;
     tiffSaveOptions.transparency = tr;
     activeDocument.saveAs(saveFile, tiffSaveOptions, true, Extension.LOWERCASE);
function saveFileasJPEG(saveFile, qL) {
     jpgSaveOptions = new JPEGSaveOptions();
     jpgSaveOptions.embedColorProfile = true;
     jpgSaveOptions.formatOptions = FormatOptions.STANDARDBASELINE;
     jpgSaveOptions.matte = MatteType.NONE;
     jpgSaveOptions.quality = qL;
     activeDocument.saveAs(saveFile, jpgSaveOptions, true, Extension.LOWERCASE);

Why is manual sort order disabled in album view

I created an album and added pictures. By default, the photos are displayed in sort order by date. I'd like to manually order them. However, when I select the sort order drop down box, the option to manually order the photos is disabled. How can I enable it or why is it disabled.

It is not available because you have yet to create a manual sort for that Album, and so there is no "Manual Sort" available. Create a manual sort manually (re-arrange the photos). Then the "Manual Sort" menu choice should become available.
The menu switches between the existing sorts.
I didn't design it. This makes sense to engineers, but not so much to users. Any time you manually re-arrange your images, the sort is automatically changed to "Manual". Aperture remembers the last manual sort; it is always available via the sort selector.

Losing manual sort in Bridge collections

I installed the latest version of Bridge CC and created several collections. Each collection contains between 10 and 60 images which are all taken from the same Windows directory. The directory contains less than 300 image files. I did this in two sessions. In the first, I created 3 collections and in the second, I created 5 more. Each collection was manually sorted after all the images were added. No additional images were added after the manual sort.
After restarting Windows and opening Bridge CC again, some collections were still manually sorted and some were sorted by filename. All the collections are still showing as manual sort. Can't figure out why some are OK but others are in filename order even though it shows manual sort.
I'm running on Window 8 Pro and have InDesign installed as well. Bridge is not set to start at login.
Now, the only thing I can think of is that when I updated InDesign in Adobe CC this morning, that something may have affected Bridge. But then I would have expected all the collections to revert to filename order and not just some.
Is there a secret to keeping the manual sort in Bridge collections intact? It's not much use to me if it won't. I sort images in the order I want to insert them in book pages.
I checked other threads on this subject but it doesn't look like anything was resolved.
Thanks

DUUUUUUUDE! IT'S WORKING NOW!!!!
When you originally asked, "What happens if you click on an image and move it to another folder?", I didn't really understand what you were talking about because I almost never have my workspace set up in a way that the folders are showing. I always hide them. So I didn't really understand what you were saying. Just a few minutes ago, I realized that that is what you were asking so I opened up the folder area and tried dragging thumbs into different folders and saw that it does work.
So then, because of you mentioning that blue line and me know that I did see the blue line on occasion. I went back over into the thumbnails to find out if I always got the blue line or if it was a hit or miss thing. I couldn't believe my eyes when all of the sudden I saw that I no longer was getting that circle with the line through it, and low and behold, the thumbnail dropped right into position like it is supposed to!!!!
The thing is, I don't know what I've learned from this. I thought, "well, what is different?" The only thing that I can think of is that I now have the folders showing in my workspace so I wondered if that was the secret but I just now hid the folders again like I usually do and the drag and drop into position is STILL WORKING!!!
All I can figure is that somehow, dragging and dropping a thumbnail into a folder like that for the first time, triggered something so that I can now drag and drop among the thumbnail positions? Not sure. All I know is that for some reason, IT'S WORKING NOW!
Now, for the second important part, I wonder if I drag and drop everything into the order that I want and then select all of the files and drag them into a new folder, will they stay in that order? I need to go experiment with that.
If you hadn't kept at it and in turn had me keep trying stuff, it would have never happened because I had pretty much given up.
Thanks Curt!
You da man!!!

How do you manually sort photos in Photo Stream?

How do you manually sort photos in Photo Stream?

This worked for me.
I created a new photo stream for the pics I intended to share. For this project is was pictures of my parents new apartement. I needed them to be in a certain order, not in the order I took the pictures. I shared this photostream with my parents Apple ID.
Created a photo album of the images I wanted to share in a specific order in iPhotos on my Mac.
Put the pictures in the new desired order in the photo album.
Selected all the pics in the album and did a batch change of the date. I put them in 1 minute incriments.
Then selected all the images in that album and shared to the to the desired photo stream.
Seems to have worked like a charm.

Photos missing after manually sorting them.

After moving photos from camera roll to iTunes image-sync folder, some images will not resync to my phone. I do not use iPhoto. Pictures was taken by the iPhone 4. Help?
I have a folder on my computer where from iTunes Autosync images. I use this to be able to sort my images into folders/albums without using iPhoto. However after doing this not all of the photos taken by the iPhone 4 will resync to the iPhone and I cannot figgure out why.

When you copied them to the flash drive you took them out of iPhoto and into the Finder. The Finder doesn't understand manual sorting.
Here's one (of several) way(s) to do what you want:
Make an Album of the photos, then drag the pics into your preferred order.
Then Photos Menu: Batch Change -> Set Title to Text "John's Birthday", for instance, and tick the box to append a number to each Photo. Now your photos are titled 'John's Birthday 001, John's Birthday 002 ... etc'
Then File -> Export and in the Export dialogue set the Filename to "Use Title"
Sort on Filename in the FInder and you end up with a folder full of images in the same order as the Album in iPhoto.

Save manual ordering of images in a project?

Hi there,
I have a project with images from lots of different cameras which I have edited down ready for making up an Aperture book. I have also laboriously re-ordered the images, into rough "chapter" order. The little indicator at top left correctly enough has the ordfer labelled as "manual" - my question is, can I close down Aperture and have the images appear in the same order when I open the programme again? Ideally, I'd like to pull the whole lot into the book and have them arrange themselves in the same, manual order in the book, so I can then resize, finetune etc.
Thanks for your help!
Binger

The little indicator at top left correctly enough has the ordfer labelled as "manual" - my question is, can I close down Aperture and have the images appear in the same order when I open the programme again?
This is an undocumented feature - at least I have never seen a written guarantee-, but so far Aperture has always preserved my manual ordering of images in library items, like projects, albums, slideshow,... and always shown the same sequence of images as before after quitting and reopening.
But what is your Aperture version? Your profile signature says Mac OS X (10.5.6). I have never used Aperture on this system, so I cannot make any guarantees for earlier Aperture versions. I only tested on Aperture 3.2.4 and later. And in some cases Aperture will shuffle images around when using manually arranged images for a product, like for a slideshow. The recommended workflow is to do the manual arranging in the final album, not before adding to the album, this is safer. Or to add tags to the images that you can use for sorting, like numbered version names or headlines.
But if you already have decided on the images you want to use, why not create the book with these images at once, before you quit Aperture? You do not have to finish the book in one go - my books ususally take a full month to finish
To create a book from the images in your project select them all at once in the Browser and use the command "File > New > Book". Then check, if they arrived in the correct sort order in the book album and quit.
Regards
Léonie
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Why is it impossible to sort your images then post to web gallery - sorted?

I have been messing with Aperature for days and am really dis-enchanted. I have gone through and organized over 700 images in separate categories only to find #1 - when I try to upload the images in a Web Gallery or Web Journal the images cannot be uploaded from a Stack. #2 - if I unstack them first they all go back to the order of when they are uploaded. Also when using the sorting button - it is supposed to put them in order first to last or last to first...depending on which way the button is selected - This does NOT work everytime. Sometimes when you click on the button it does nothing to the order of a group.
THIS IS RIDICULOUS. There must be a way to organize your images in stacks and then upload in that same order - hello apple - are you listening?

hi.
"this is rediculous" — not quite. the problem may be your understanding of stacks. they're not groups. they're compilations of similar/near-identical photos, usually shot in rapid fire. the idea is that when you shoot several near-identical photos, you can easily 'group' them, sort them in terms of quality and then choose the best one (the 'Stack Pick') to represent the stack wherever it might be used.
for example, when I'm photographing a bird, I don't normally get a second chance to photograph the same bird in the same situation or pose. the depth of field is extremely short and focus can be difficult. camera shake may also affect my images. therefore, I typically take 8 or more photos of the same bird in the same place in less than 10 to 15 seconds (if the bird is kind enough to stay that long; they normally stick in one place for only 1 or 2 seconds). I will typically only need one of these, so I stack the images and choose the best one; i.e., the stack's Pick. I will rarely if ever have to look at the other photos in the stack again.
if you want to group images from an association point of view, don't use stacks. use albums. albums created within a project will allow you to do exactly what you hope to do. sorting and uploading multiple images from the same group will work. you can even sort manually.
"Also when using the sorting button - it is supposed to put them in order first to last or last to first...depending on which way the button is selected - This does NOT work everytime"
if you're using stacks, the Pick of the stack is used to represent the stack and is therefore used to sort the images in your collection; ie, the position of the whole stack in your collection of images is determined by the Pick of the stack.

Saving a Custom (Manual) Sort

I searched and searched through Bridge and found NO way to save a custom sort (manual) with a name (or a collection if you prefer). I created a manual custom sort in a folder and ran a PS action to reduce the size of each photo and put them into a new folder. When I opened the new folder the sort was alpha, not like the old folder. I now have to manually sort over 300 photos in new folder.
Is there a way to do this and if not, can a script be written for it. I create slide shows and no of hundreds of examples of how I would use this. It is really labor intensive to put the photos in a special order and then have no way to save it for future use.
Any suggestions or help would be appreciated. If I have to pay someone to do this, I will. thanks.

I am using Bridge (Version 1.0.4) and CS2 on WinXP, SP2. I am extremely disappointment in a limitation in Bridge that seems to be related to JamesAGrover's challenge to save a manual sort that he has created in a collection.
A review of topics related to manual sorting in these Adobe forums indicate that there is a general limitation to sorting a collection. This limitation seems to exist in any of the Adobe products for Mac or PC that offer the ability to view "collections" of images, for example, Lightroom and Bridge.
A "collection" seems to be a set of file names that are handled independently of the real files themselves. The magic resides in the user's experience of handling the "collection" of filenames as if they were the actual files themselves.
Of course, there is no "magic"; the collection is working with some kind of pointer to the actual files, where ever they may truly reside.
There are many powerful reasons for offering functionality of this kind. The one that primarily interests me is that by working with pointers to the same file from different collections, I can create different subsets of images and unique sort orders without copying the original files. I avoid filling my harddrive with copies, but I can burn thousands of CDs and DVDs each with different selections and sorts.
But unfortunately, inside a "collection", I am unable to execute a manual sort at all. The problem exists if my collection includes files from a single directory or from several different directories (folders). Since this seems to contradict the basic promise of a "collection" of filenames, I keep thinking that I misunderstand the user's interface.
I have set the "View - Sort" menu with every permutation of checks and unchecks for "Ascending Order" and "Manually" with no luck.
I have discovered a workaround to my problem: I have been able to manually sort, and save, a direct view of a real file system directory from the Bridge interface. But that has forced me to create copies of my images in one unique new directory for every selection and sort that I need.
To tie this back to the first post in this topic, I must observe that for me, after creating and manually sorting a collection, I will want to save the collection with its unique and idiosyncratic, manual sort. I don't want to copy the original files umpteen times! It seems that I will encounter the problem described by JamesAGrover.
I wonder if any forum member, or any one at Adobe, has a comment. Specifically I wonder about two things:
1) Am I misunderstanding the user's interface? Is there a setting that I have not discovered?
2) Is there a basic limitation with "collections" that has been removed in CS3?

Manual Sort isn't working

Hi All.
I just spent about two hours manually organizing slides in a Project which is in a Folder.
I selected all the images to print out a set of contact sheets so I can review this with paper and pencil. For some reason it is not coming out with the manual sort.
Now I can't get the Project in Aperture to be sorted manually. The pulldown does not give me an option to manual sort as it is greyed out. I've tried Split View and Browser View and no luck with this.
Can anyone help? I really don't have the time to go back in and redo this sort.
Thanks very much.

HI Kirby,
Tons of thanks. This helped me take another look at it.
I see I was in another Project and the fact that they weren't in order was simply that the data was duped but not sorted in this Project.
I suppose if I wasn't constantly having to get up and do battle with my HP 8500 "All In One" printer due to its various real and imagined maladies things wouldn't be this hectic.
Thanks for getting me back on deadline.
You and the forum are fantastic.
Regards,
Jon

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